120K for poaching OUCH!!! - Kayak Fishing Adventures on Big Water’s Edge

driftwood · 09-15-2016, 07:49 AM

It would of been a little cheaper had they bought it at the fish market.

http://www.sandiegouniontribune.com/...914-story.html

jruiz · 09-15-2016, 08:11 AM

Mahigeer · 09-15-2016, 08:27 AM

WTG wardens.

driftwood · 09-15-2016, 08:52 AM

These guy's are idiots!!! don't they know you don't need a fishing license to poach?

PapaDave · 09-15-2016, 09:15 AM

Just one of the reasons I buy a license and not get upset about it. Good job DFW.

Saba Slayer · 09-15-2016, 09:26 AM

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WTG wardens.

TylerJones62 · 09-15-2016, 09:44 AM

Boy, that's dedication right there. The wardens jumped in after the bag when Jeong threw it overboard...

ful-rac · 09-15-2016, 09:49 AM

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Originally Posted by driftwood

These guy's are idiots!!! don't they know you don't need a fishing license to poach?

I'm sure they know now!

You have a constitutional right to fish, hunt, poach, take whatever you want, and as much as you want. It's guaranteed by the constitution, and the california constitution, and the bill of fishing rights, also approved by the CPA (California Poachers Association). You don't need a fishing licence!

I would Estoppel the evidence and file a escheat immediately! Take these steps to pro se innocence you will resjudicata the hearing and exparte you emminent domain.

Mr_Fixit · 09-15-2016, 09:54 AM

I am glad they busted and prosecuted them. I cant tell you how often I see people keeping fish that should be tossed back. Some people just dont care. Its interesting how it seems most these offenders are from a certain far east country.

Yeah, people complaint about a fishing license. Its use is disputable. But laws around the sizes of fish you can keep make way more sense. Also laws around what species you can keep and when you can obtain them make sense.

Hunters Pa · 09-15-2016, 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr_Fixit

I am glad they busted and prosecuted them. I cant tell you how often I see people keeping fish that should be tossed back. Some people just dont care. Its interesting how it seems most these offenders are from a certain far east country.

Yeah, people complaint about a fishing license. Its use is disputable. But laws around the sizes of fish you can keep make way more sense. Also laws around what species you can keep and when you can obtain them make sense.

Spend some time on a pier or jetty and you will see people of ALL origins poaching.

RK · 09-15-2016, 11:25 AM

they should publicly stone poachers.......

jorluivil · 09-15-2016, 11:51 AM

They should of called Wiredantz for advice

Mr_Fixit · 09-15-2016, 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Hunters Pa

Spend some time on a pier or jetty and you will see people of ALL origins poaching.

I did. That is how I got started in ocean fishing. You are right. Lots of people do it. But there are also trends.

Silbaugh4liberty · 09-15-2016, 02:28 PM

It's pretty funny how brainwashed people are. You have a computer in your hand and yet your too damn lazy to look up websters Dictionary.

Poaching Defintion= noun
1.
the illegal practice of trespassing on another's property to hunt or steal game without the landowner's permission.
2.
any encroachment on another's property, rights, ideas, or the like.

So did they poach by definition? No, and you gladly congratulate the DFG for busting a couple OLD guys for a dozen abalone, and 3 lobsters, and yet your completely clueless on the REAL FACTS. Every single year the commercial industry has been gaining revenue and yet it hasn't rung a bell yet.

Lets explore the facts:At the height of the Abalone Commercial Fishing Industry was bringing in 2000 metric tonnes of abalone. Let's put this in perspective for you. 4,408,000 Pounds of Abalone from the Commercial fishing industry! Of course the depletion of the resource didn't happen from recreational fishermen, but from commercial fishermen. Since then farming of the abalone become a major effort since it was the commercial fishermen who F***ed up the resource. Of course they don't ban or hardly put restrictions, but started farming.

Now, lets look at commercial fishing of Spiny Lobsters, because those evil fishermen took 3 (2 weeks before the season, how dare they). Here's a paragraph I found from the Monterey Research Facility:Establishing the import and export figures for California spiny lobster is rather complicated due to the lack of delineation of the term “lobster” in most databases. However, the 2010 ex-vessel value of the California lobster fishery was $11.13 million in 2010 (CalCOFI 2011). This is up from the $7.89 million in 2009, and the previous high of $8.06 million set in 2006 (CalCOFI 2011).
The majority of the lobster caught in California is exported and shipped live (as they cannot be tailed for market) to Asian countries, particularly China, in the last several years (Barksy pers.comm. 2012).

Did you read that??? $11 Million in revenue, for 400 Metric Tonnes (881,848 lbs) of Lobster, most of which is being EXPORTED!!! You people gladly encourage exporting your resource meanwhile frown on a 75 year old guy keep 3 lobsters - 2 weeks out of season. THIS IS INSANE!!! THINK, IT AINT ILLEGAL YET!!

Silbaugh4liberty · 09-15-2016, 02:34 PM

Groupthink is a psychological phenomenon that occurs within a group of people in which the desire for harmony or conformity in the group results in an irrational or dysfunctional decision-making outcome. Group members try to minimize conflict and reach a consensus decision without critical evaluation of alternative viewpoints by actively suppressing dissenting viewpoints, and by isolating themselves from outside influences.

ful-rac · 09-15-2016, 04:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr_Fixit

I did. That is how I got started in ocean fishing. You are right. Lots of people do it. But there are also trends.

I found this graph that might support your claims...

ful-rac · 09-15-2016, 04:43 PM

As you can see the vietnamese poaching is off the charts!

Caden · 09-15-2016, 05:15 PM

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As you can see the vietnamese poaching is off the charts!

Let me get this right Tony, we all race poaching ok and not all Viet is bad bro and tho 2 got caught they not even Viet, are a lot of Korean people live on garden grove? That just my 2 cent bro, btw he talking about u Roby

smokie · 09-15-2016, 05:26 PM

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Its interesting how it seems most these offenders are from a certain far east country.

This has got to be one of the most ignorant comments I've seen on this board. If you've been fishing long enough, you'll come to learn that poaching has no race...people of all colors poach and its a problem.

I'm diggin' that chart Ful-Rac...lol.

jorluivil · 09-15-2016, 05:34 PM

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09-15-2016, 07:49 AM	#1
driftwood Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: SAN DIEGO Posts: 1,086	120K for poaching OUCH!!! It would of been a little cheaper had they bought it at the fish market. http://www.sandiegouniontribune.com/...914-story.html __________________ "The secret of life? one thing just one thing only. That's what you gotta figure out" curly

09-15-2016, 08:11 AM	#2
jruiz Large Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: La Verne, CA Posts: 1,008	This might have helped

09-15-2016, 08:52 AM	#4
driftwood Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: SAN DIEGO Posts: 1,086	These guy's are idiots!!! don't they know you don't need a fishing license to poach? __________________ "The secret of life? one thing just one thing only. That's what you gotta figure out" curly

09-15-2016, 09:15 AM	#5
PapaDave Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Menifee, CA Posts: 1,473	Just one of the reasons I buy a license and not get upset about it. Good job DFW. __________________ So long and thanks for all the fish...

09-15-2016, 11:51 AM	#12
jorluivil Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 6,856	They should of called Wiredantz for advice __________________ www.facebook.com/Teamsewer

09-15-2016, 08:27 AM	#3
Mahigeer Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 1,891	WTG wardens.

09-15-2016, 09:44 AM	#7
TylerJones62 Junior Join Date: Aug 2016 Location: Corona Posts: 13	Boy, that's dedication right there. The wardens jumped in after the bag when Jeong threw it overboard...

09-15-2016, 09:54 AM	#9
Mr_Fixit Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2016 Location: Escondido, CA Posts: 130	I am glad they busted and prosecuted them. I cant tell you how often I see people keeping fish that should be tossed back. Some people just dont care. Its interesting how it seems most these offenders are from a certain far east country. Yeah, people complaint about a fishing license. Its use is disputable. But laws around the sizes of fish you can keep make way more sense. Also laws around what species you can keep and when you can obtain them make sense.

09-15-2016, 11:25 AM	#11
RK Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Posts: 736	they should publicly stone poachers.......

09-15-2016, 02:28 PM	#14
Silbaugh4liberty Fishing Patriot Join Date: Dec 2013 Posts: 1,121	Congratulations, State worshippers!! Land of the Slaves!! It's pretty funny how brainwashed people are. You have a computer in your hand and yet your too damn lazy to look up websters Dictionary. Poaching Defintion= noun 1. the illegal practice of trespassing on another's property to hunt or steal game without the landowner's permission. 2. any encroachment on another's property, rights, ideas, or the like. So did they poach by definition? No, and you gladly congratulate the DFG for busting a couple OLD guys for a dozen abalone, and 3 lobsters, and yet your completely clueless on the REAL FACTS. Every single year the commercial industry has been gaining revenue and yet it hasn't rung a bell yet. Lets explore the facts:At the height of the Abalone Commercial Fishing Industry was bringing in 2000 metric tonnes of abalone. Let's put this in perspective for you. 4,408,000 Pounds of Abalone from the Commercial fishing industry! Of course the depletion of the resource didn't happen from recreational fishermen, but from commercial fishermen. Since then farming of the abalone become a major effort since it was the commercial fishermen who F**ed up the resource. Of course they don't ban or hardly put restrictions, but started farming. Now, lets look at commercial fishing of Spiny Lobsters, because those evil fishermen took 3 (2 weeks before the season, how dare they). Here's a paragraph I found from the Monterey Research Facility:Establishing the import and export figures for California spiny lobster is rather complicated due to the lack of delineation of the term “lobster” in most databases. However, the 2010 ex-vessel value of the California lobster fishery was $11.13 million in 2010 (CalCOFI 2011). This is up from the $7.89 million in 2009, and the previous high of $8.06 million set in 2006 (CalCOFI 2011). The majority of the lobster caught in California is exported and shipped live (as they cannot be tailed for market) to Asian countries, particularly China, in the last several years (Barksy pers.comm. 2012). Did you read that??? $11 Million in revenue, for 400 Metric Tonnes (881,848 lbs) of Lobster, most of which is being EXPORTED!!! You people gladly encourage exporting your resource meanwhile frown on a 75 year old guy keep 3 lobsters - 2 weeks out of season. THIS IS INSANE!!! THINK, IT AINT ILLEGAL YET!! __________________ Last edited by Silbaugh4liberty; 09-15-2016 at 02:35 PM.*

09-15-2016, 02:34 PM	#15
Silbaugh4liberty Fishing Patriot Join Date: Dec 2013 Posts: 1,121	*Groupthink* is a psychological phenomenon that occurs within a group of people in which the desire for harmony or conformity in the group results in an irrational or dysfunctional decision-making outcome. Group members try to minimize conflict and reach a consensus decision without critical evaluation of alternative viewpoints by actively suppressing dissenting viewpoints, and by isolating themselves from outside influences. __________________

09-15-2016, 04:43 PM	#17
ful-rac Emperor Join Date: May 2009 Location: Buena Park Posts: 3,649	As you can see the vietnamese poaching is off the charts! __________________ There's nothing colder than yesterday's hotdog.