Newport, 3-10-16 - Kayak Fishing Adventures on Big Water’s Edge

Amish Ed · 03-10-2016, 11:11 AM

I haven't been able to fish for 2 months, so I was stoked to be going today. Met up with Harry Hill and launched just before 7am. sky was partly cloudy and warmish. Water was 60.6º and stained. Tide was coming in and there was good current.

Started at the buoy line and was getting lots of short bites on various colors and sizes, with my pants being pulled down multiple times. But, only got one short spotty for my troubles. We moved to the channel between the peninsula and Balboa. More short bites, no takers. Moved to the moored boats on the peninsula side, but didn't stay long as there was zero current. Moved to the boats on the other side for nothing, not even a short bite. Moved back to the buoy line off the launch and got 2 bites. I was getting sore quick. The one thing I don't like about my Trident 13 is the narrow footwells that force my ankles and knees into an awkward position. I was finally getting used to this when car problems forced me off the water for 2 months. Guess I have to start over and teach my body again to put up with the discomfort. Anyways, it was really slow and I was sore. So, I called it quits some time after 9am and left Harry to hopefully have better luck with the outgoing tide.

The best colors for bites were Redbone and Smokey Shad paddlerz. Both 4" and 5" got bit early. Only 4" after about 7:30. Hot Sauce helped to induce bites.

On a car related note, I bought a Thule Slipstream from Andy (OEX Sunset Beach) for my new to me car. So easy to load and unload. Well worth the $$ and it protects the back of the car from damage too.

Dave Legacy · 03-10-2016, 11:32 AM

The slipstream sounds like a good move!

Amish Ed · 03-10-2016, 11:51 AM

Definitely better on the back too.

I first saw them at the Fred Hall show a couple years back and it stuck in my mind. Glad I was able to get the cash together to get it.

Forgot to mention that I snapped 2 straps today. Guess they don't like years of sitting in the back of a pickup truck. Glad I always have extras. In fact I just used the new ones that came with the rack

blitzburgh · 03-10-2016, 12:15 PM

Thanks for the report Ed!

Harry Hill · 03-10-2016, 12:31 PM

I did not better after Ed left, just short bites, tried soaking some bait while I was casting but all I got was soggy bait. First time out solo on my Malibu P2T, I thought I was being smart by putting my Ascend seat on it but it put me so high the kayak wanted to roll every time I moved. I took it off but I had forgot to bring my regular seat so I just sat on the hatch and paddled. I don't recommend lots of paddling without a seat. It wasn't terrible but I was getting pretty tired. I used my bait tank and back pack as a back rest but the seat would have been better. Off the water at 10:30, fishless again.

Amish Ed · 03-10-2016, 04:16 PM

Sorry you blanked.

Next week, weather permitting, the pipe in Dana point. Should be better than Newport. But, you'll need some 1/2 to 1oz lead heads and appropriately sized baits. Squid strips would work for rattlesnakes and most likely bass too. 1oz torpedoes should suffice. Let me know if you want to go.

ROSSOLY · 03-10-2016, 05:18 PM

Wow Ed, you must've been in major pain to only tolerate 2 hrs on the water, bummer. Thanks for the report.

Amish Ed · 03-10-2016, 05:44 PM

Pain mixed with boredom. 2 bites in the last hour and the tide was dying. Didn't feel like spending 45min waiting around to see if the bite picked up with the outgoing tide. But, I usually only fish 4-4.5hrs at a time anyways. And I live pretty close so it was no big deal.

As far as the pain goes, knees and ankles will be hurting for the next few days. If my first month with the yak is any indicator. I hate that all the major manufacturers have gone to narrow footwells in so many of their kayaks. My feet point out at 45º angles, making them go straight up and down just isn't pleasant.

alanw · 03-10-2016, 05:57 PM

Ed I thought I was the only one that hates the narrow footwells. My last two Malibus hurt my feet and ankles, I had to hang my feet over the sides often to relax them. Might need a PA for the foot space

Amish Ed · 03-10-2016, 06:04 PM

Glad to know I'm not alone Alan. I put my feet up all the time, or dangle them over the side. I fished a PA once and loved it. But, they are way out of my price range and way too heavy for my back

Harry Hill · 03-10-2016, 07:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Amish Ed

Sorry you blanked.

Next week, weather permitting, the pipe in Dana point. Should be better than Newport. But, you'll need some 1/2 to 1oz lead heads and appropriately sized baits. Squid strips would work for rattlesnakes and most likely bass too. 1oz torpedoes should suffice. Let me know if you want to go.

Just let me know where I'm going, I know nothing about Dana Point. I'm good to go though.

Harry Hill · 03-10-2016, 07:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Amish Ed

Pain mixed with boredom. 2 bites in the last hour and the tide was dying. Didn't feel like spending 45min waiting around to see if the bite picked up with the outgoing tide. But, I usually only fish 4-4.5hrs at a time anyways. And I live pretty close so it was no big deal.

As far as the pain goes, knees and ankles will be hurting for the next few days. If my first month with the yak is any indicator. I hate that all the major manufacturers have gone to narrow footwells in so many of their kayaks. My feet point out at 45º angles, making them go straight up and down just isn't pleasant.

I can feel my stomach muscles after paddling without support, and I have a lot of stomach muscle to feel.

Amish Ed · 03-10-2016, 07:27 PM

Harry, i'll watch the weather and let you know. If not dana, maybe mission bay.

Harry Hill · 03-10-2016, 08:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Amish Ed

Harry, i'll watch the weather and let you know. If not dana, maybe mission bay.

Okay, just let me know what we are doing and I'm in. I'm thinking the problem I had with that seat was the keel was sitting on sand so it made the kayak tippy.I have to try it again floating. I think I will haul it over to Perris next week and try it out again. No fishing gear though, just in case I go under.

Dave Legacy · 03-10-2016, 08:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Amish Ed

Sorry you blanked.

Next week, weather permitting, the pipe in Dana point. Should be better than Newport. But, you'll need some 1/2 to 1oz lead heads and appropriately sized baits. Squid strips would work for rattlesnakes and most likely bass too. 1oz torpedoes should suffice. Let me know if you want to go.

Just a heads up I'm pretty sure Baby Beach is still closed; I think this includes the launch.

Harry Hill · 03-10-2016, 08:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave Legacy

Just a heads up I'm pretty sure Baby Beach is still closed; I think this includes the launch.

what and where is baby beach?

Orca Winfrey · 03-10-2016, 08:40 PM

Thanks for the report. The spotties there can get lockjaw when the tide is slack. Still always great to get on the water.

alanw · 03-10-2016, 08:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Harry Hill

what and where is baby beach?

It's a nice easy free launch area in Dana Point harbor. I'll go take a look to see if it's open this weekend if you want. There was some sort of working barge and lots of piping in the channel last week, not sure what's up.

Amish Ed · 03-10-2016, 08:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Orca Winfrey

Thanks for the report. The spotties there can get lockjaw when the tide is slack. Still always great to get on the water.

In my experience they have lock jaw most of the winter. But, it's close and you never know.

Dave Legacy · 03-10-2016, 09:53 PM

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Originally Posted by alanw

It's a nice easy free launch area in Dana Point harbor. I'll go take a look to see if it's open this weekend if you want. There was some sort of working barge and lots of piping in the channel last week, not sure what's up.

That would be cool, thanks. From what I understand they're doing some dredging that is supposed to last a few months; I hope this is inaccurate!

03-10-2016, 11:11 AM	#1
Amish Ed Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Grants Pass, OR Posts: 1,906	Newport, 3-10-16 I haven't been able to fish for 2 months, so I was stoked to be going today. Met up with Harry Hill and launched just before 7am. sky was partly cloudy and warmish. Water was 60.6º and stained. Tide was coming in and there was good current. Started at the buoy line and was getting lots of short bites on various colors and sizes, with my pants being pulled down multiple times. But, only got one short spotty for my troubles. We moved to the channel between the peninsula and Balboa. More short bites, no takers. Moved to the moored boats on the peninsula side, but didn't stay long as there was zero current. Moved to the boats on the other side for nothing, not even a short bite. Moved back to the buoy line off the launch and got 2 bites. I was getting sore quick. The one thing I don't like about my Trident 13 is the narrow footwells that force my ankles and knees into an awkward position. I was finally getting used to this when car problems forced me off the water for 2 months. Guess I have to start over and teach my body again to put up with the discomfort. Anyways, it was really slow and I was sore. So, I called it quits some time after 9am and left Harry to hopefully have better luck with the outgoing tide. The best colors for bites were Redbone and Smokey Shad paddlerz. Both 4" and 5" got bit early. Only 4" after about 7:30. Hot Sauce helped to induce bites. On a car related note, I bought a Thule Slipstream from Andy (OEX Sunset Beach) for my new to me car. So easy to load and unload. Well worth the $$ and it protects the back of the car from damage too. __________________ Amish Ed You can't catch it again if it's dead!

03-10-2016, 11:51 AM	#3
Amish Ed Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Grants Pass, OR Posts: 1,906	Definitely better on the back too. I first saw them at the Fred Hall show a couple years back and it stuck in my mind. Glad I was able to get the cash together to get it. Forgot to mention that I snapped 2 straps today. Guess they don't like years of sitting in the back of a pickup truck. Glad I always have extras. In fact I just used the new ones that came with the rack __________________ Amish Ed You can't catch it again if it's dead!

03-10-2016, 12:15 PM	#4
blitzburgh Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Menifee Posts: 2,509	Thanks for the report Ed! __________________ ”The beauty of the Second Amendment is that it will not be needed until they try to take it.” ~Thomas Jefferson.........maybe

03-10-2016, 04:16 PM	#6
Amish Ed Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Grants Pass, OR Posts: 1,906	Sorry you blanked. Next week, weather permitting, the pipe in Dana point. Should be better than Newport. But, you'll need some 1/2 to 1oz lead heads and appropriately sized baits. Squid strips would work for rattlesnakes and most likely bass too. 1oz torpedoes should suffice. Let me know if you want to go. __________________ Amish Ed You can't catch it again if it's dead!

03-10-2016, 05:44 PM	#8
Amish Ed Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Grants Pass, OR Posts: 1,906	Pain mixed with boredom. 2 bites in the last hour and the tide was dying. Didn't feel like spending 45min waiting around to see if the bite picked up with the outgoing tide. But, I usually only fish 4-4.5hrs at a time anyways. And I live pretty close so it was no big deal. As far as the pain goes, knees and ankles will be hurting for the next few days. If my first month with the yak is any indicator. I hate that all the major manufacturers have gone to narrow footwells in so many of their kayaks. My feet point out at 45º angles, making them go straight up and down just isn't pleasant. __________________ Amish Ed You can't catch it again if it's dead!

03-10-2016, 11:32 AM	#2
Dave Legacy Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2015 Location: Hacienda Heights, CA Posts: 427	The slipstream sounds like a good move!

03-10-2016, 12:31 PM	#5
Harry Hill Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2015 Location: Yucaipa, CA Posts: 1,136	I did not better after Ed left, just short bites, tried soaking some bait while I was casting but all I got was soggy bait. First time out solo on my Malibu P2T, I thought I was being smart by putting my Ascend seat on it but it put me so high the kayak wanted to roll every time I moved. I took it off but I had forgot to bring my regular seat so I just sat on the hatch and paddled. I don't recommend lots of paddling without a seat. It wasn't terrible but I was getting pretty tired. I used my bait tank and back pack as a back rest but the seat would have been better. Off the water at 10:30, fishless again.

03-10-2016, 05:18 PM	#7
ROSSOLY Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2014 Location: Orange, CA Posts: 120	Wow Ed, you must've been in major pain to only tolerate 2 hrs on the water, bummer. Thanks for the report.

03-10-2016, 05:57 PM	#9
alanw Made in U.S.A. Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Dana Point Posts: 1,625	Ed I thought I was the only one that hates the narrow footwells. My last two Malibus hurt my feet and ankles, I had to hang my feet over the sides often to relax them. Might need a PA for the foot space __________________ Hobie PA 14 ¸.·´¯`·.´¯`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸><(((º> Jackson Kraken ¸.·´¯`·.¸.·´¯`·.´¯`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸><(((º> Malibu X-Factor ¸.·´¯`·.´¯`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸><(((º> Malibu Stealth-12 ¸.·´¯`·.´¯`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸><(((º> Its not a spelling B its a fishing B ~yakjoe

03-10-2016, 06:04 PM	#10
Amish Ed Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Grants Pass, OR Posts: 1,906	Glad to know I'm not alone Alan. I put my feet up all the time, or dangle them over the side. I fished a PA once and loved it. But, they are way out of my price range and way too heavy for my back __________________ Amish Ed You can't catch it again if it's dead!

03-10-2016, 07:27 PM	#13
Amish Ed Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Grants Pass, OR Posts: 1,906	Harry, i'll watch the weather and let you know. If not dana, maybe mission bay. __________________ Amish Ed You can't catch it again if it's dead!

03-10-2016, 08:40 PM	#17
Orca Winfrey Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2015 Location: The I. E. Posts: 353	Thanks for the report. The spotties there can get lockjaw when the tide is slack. Still always great to get on the water.