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03-08-2016, 02:11 PM | #1 |
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Strong braid to top shot knot
I learned this knot in japan while using varivas shock leader...very popular shock leader in japan....seems more flexible and less stiff than the stuff here. There maybe another name for this knot but as of now I'm going with the name on the pic. |
03-08-2016, 04:36 PM | #2 |
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For ease and simplicity, and to pull down into a very small, tight knot that goes through pole eyelets easy, take a look at this one.
It's essentially no thicker than one single fold of the thicker 40#(?) diameter fluorocarbon. All the wraps are made with the thinner diameter braid. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PYP0RZZPBaQ
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03-08-2016, 04:50 PM | #3 |
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X 2 on the royal polaris knot, AKA John Collins knot. Easy to tie, super small and ive never had a failure with it
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03-08-2016, 04:51 PM | #4 |
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Try tying that knot on water
With current ripping like it does at Lj . You will be in Mexico . I use same knot as niceguy. Estimated breaking strength 95% or more .
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03-08-2016, 04:52 PM | #5 |
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03-08-2016, 05:04 PM | #6 | |
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Yep this is my go to, a great knot. I know it as the improved albright and I do 7 turns up and 7 down. Also when I tighten all I do it wet and pull all four lines. Tags and mains together. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk |
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03-08-2016, 05:34 PM | #7 |
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Nothing wrong with OP's knot if it works for him and he can tie it in a hurry when the fish are biting and the swell is rolling.
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03-08-2016, 07:27 PM | #8 |
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AKA Albright knot, AKA Alberto knot, aka (the badass knot that everyone wants to name after themselves).
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03-08-2016, 08:24 PM | #9 |
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Looks simple, strong and the leader tucks in nice....going to have to try that! Thx
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03-08-2016, 08:49 PM | #10 |
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This is my go to knot for flouro or mono to spectra, I have never had the knot fail. I've had 40lb mono/flouro break before my knot.
The knot is extremely easy to do, I can do it on the water at LJ with current ripping and not end up in Mexico but if I do I'll get a chance to visit my uncle Don Felipe
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03-08-2016, 08:57 PM | #11 |
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Use the "original" Albright/Alberto/RP knot with flouro and it's always held strong, but with mono, it slips. I'll have to try the new and improved version when fishing with mono.
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03-08-2016, 09:11 PM | #12 |
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Smallest and strongest connection to date...
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03-08-2016, 09:19 PM | #13 | |
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I found that slippage is usually caused by oily hands/fingers touching the mono/flouro, getting any/all oils off of your hands/fingers before tying the knot will help prevent slippage when cinching the lines together. Another thing that I did notice that helps ~other than washing your hands~ is to pinch the mono/flouro right where it bends and come back around. I believe the tight bend in the mono/flouro causes the spectra to get hung up and allows it to tighten and not slip.
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03-08-2016, 09:35 PM | #14 |
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FG knot looks pretty good... if you have the time to tie it, at home or between stops. When you need to tie a new leader quickly and easily and or under pressure, the RP knot or the John Collins wins in my book.
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03-08-2016, 09:49 PM | #15 |
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All in the pinch! Just tried it with the pinch, problem solved. Still going to try out the improved version. Always good to see for yourself.
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03-08-2016, 09:58 PM | #16 |
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Alberto and Albright are different knots. I prefer the Alberto type with 7 up and 7 down.
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03-09-2016, 12:12 AM | #17 |
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If my mono was slipping I'd try a different knot, add wraps to my knot, check my tying technique, or use different line or leader. I think the last thing I'd do is intentionally put a kink in my line.
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03-09-2016, 12:13 AM | #18 |
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I prefer an SPro swivel for my braid to fluoro connections. They are small and extremely strong. They also provide a way for your line to unwind. Unless you are fishing for picky Tuna, you are not going to have any problems.
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03-09-2016, 01:57 AM | #19 | |
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03-09-2016, 06:54 AM | #20 |
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How so? More turns going up and down? No matter how many turns up and down, the concept is exactly the same. I think I'm gonna do 13 turns and call it the Freddy Krueger knot, or maybe 33 and call it the Freemason knot! LOL, its all the same crap.
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