Poor Sealions... - Kayak Fishing Adventures on Big Water’s Edge

Saba Slayer · 02-25-2016, 08:01 AM

Kinda Breaks your heart to hear the population is dwindling..............

ful-rac · 02-25-2016, 08:19 AM

Total Crap...
Propaganda...
We and the fish can only be so lucky if the species declines...
It's natural selection...
If man rescues them...we are interfering with nature...

jorluivil · 02-25-2016, 08:35 AM

Are the sea lion numbers getting smaller? I can't say for sure but I'm thinking they are and so is the bait they normal eat which I'll have to assume are squid and sardines. We've all heard the stories about how sardines are a thing of yesterday and lets face it, squid is around but its not around in the numbers that it was back in 2014 and years prior. Unfortunately, someone, somewhere, somehow will find a way to blame this on us, the fishermen.

stoned-trout · 02-25-2016, 08:41 AM

theres no shortage of seals/sea lions in san diego..I always wanted to eat one as payback for all the harassment...anyone a native ??? what do they taste like???

dmrides · 02-25-2016, 09:09 AM

What technically defines a "stranded" sealion? Has this definition changed in recent years?

In any case, in situations like this it is best to let nature dictate the proper course of action. Nature has a pretty good batting average in terms of solving its own problems.

Ultimately I think George is right though, the fisherman will likely be the ones to blame. There will be a select group of secretly funded "scientists" who will determine that this problem has nothing to do with pollution, deforestation, or climate change and that the only solution will be to close more of the most productive fishing grounds that are in front of affluent people's houses or near future offshore drilling locations.

WARRIORMIKE · 02-25-2016, 09:22 AM

I'm more amazed that people still read the newspaper.

FullFlavorPike · 02-25-2016, 12:14 PM

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Originally Posted by ful-rac

If man rescues them...we are interfering with nature...

Like we already did by extirpating their terrestrial predators, and then again by giving their asses almost as much federal protection as humans

PapaDave · 02-25-2016, 12:19 PM

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Originally Posted by FullFlavorPike

Like we already did by extirpating their terrestrial predators, and then again by giving their asses almost as much federal protection as humans

I think they get better protection than humans... I've always wondered what they taste like too.

GregAndrew · 02-25-2016, 12:33 PM

The stupid thing about this is that they are basing their opinions on the number of reported"strandings", not head counts. As with just about any species on earth, in times of prosperity, they reproduce prolifically. When the prosperity continues, you get a high survival rate and lots of potential new parents. When times get tough, all those new parents have new babies that need seasoned adults showing them better how to survive. Let alone how to just ween their off spring. Now, remember how much Squid we had for almost 2 straight years. There is no shortage of food for Sea Lions out there if they know where to look, and what is eddible. But they still need to know how to target and catch it.

They are absolutely going to blame it on us for taking too many fish out of the mouths of pups.

MrPatrick · 02-25-2016, 01:30 PM

I imagine they taste like bear or dog.

FullFlavorPike · 02-25-2016, 01:44 PM

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Originally Posted by stoned-trout

what do they taste like???

http://foodists.ca/2012/01/03/the-se...xperience.html

http://www.thestar.com/life/food_win...ntroversy.html

http://modernfarmer.com/2014/11/seal...ext-big-thing/

For the sake of argument, let's assume that harp seals and california sea lions provide similarly flavored meat. The last link implies that pinniped butchery doesn't yield well, which is kind of a bummer. Then again, a bull sea lion that weighs four hundred lbs would yield a grip of meat no matter how bad the yield. Even so, I don't know that anybody would want to go to the trouble of hunting a marine mammal, butchering it at sea, and not getting much for his troubles.

I'd eat it if it were possible. For sure. Curiosity would no doubt get the better.

cabojohn · 02-25-2016, 02:34 PM

Delicious compared to Penguin.

The younger ones taste better btw. Join the CLUB.

FullFlavorPike · 02-25-2016, 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by cabojohn

The younger ones taste better btw. Join the CLUB.

Heyyyy-oooooooo

2-Stix · 02-25-2016, 03:40 PM

its all comes and goes in cycles.

Silbaugh4liberty · 02-25-2016, 05:46 PM

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Originally Posted by PapaDave

I think they get better protection than humans... I've always wondered what they taste like too.

YUP!

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/...es-in-afghani/

http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2...by-police-1000

Hunters Pa · 02-25-2016, 08:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cabojohn

Delicious compared to Penguin.

The younger ones taste better btw. Join the CLUB.

With spotted owl sauce

maquinapescado · 02-25-2016, 10:02 PM

Are you moving so you bought the paper to pack some beer mugs in boxes???

Rambo · 02-25-2016, 11:08 PM

It's only a matter of time when they'll open up hunting season on the sealion infestation. And we'll be ready for them!!!

02-25-2016, 08:01 AM	#1
Saba Slayer Senior Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: Palos Verdes Posts: 1,857	Poor Sealions... Kinda Breaks your heart to hear the population is dwindling.............. __________________ Jim / Saba Slayer

02-25-2016, 08:19 AM	#2
ful-rac Emperor Join Date: May 2009 Location: Buena Park Posts: 3,649	Total Crap... Propaganda... We and the fish can only be so lucky if the species declines... It's natural selection... If man rescues them...we are interfering with nature... __________________ There's nothing colder than yesterday's hotdog.

02-25-2016, 08:35 AM	#3
jorluivil Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 6,856	Are the sea lion numbers getting smaller? I can't say for sure but I'm thinking they are and so is the bait they normal eat which I'll have to assume are squid and sardines. We've all heard the stories about how sardines are a thing of yesterday and lets face it, squid is around but its not around in the numbers that it was back in 2014 and years prior. Unfortunately, someone, somewhere, somehow will find a way to blame this on us, the fishermen. __________________ www.facebook.com/Teamsewer

02-25-2016, 08:41 AM	#4
stoned-trout Member Join Date: Aug 2015 Location: sandiego Posts: 52	theres no shortage of seals/sea lions in san diego..I always wanted to eat one as payback for all the harassment...anyone a native ??? what do they taste like??? __________________

02-25-2016, 10:02 PM	#17
maquinapescado Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2015 Posts: 326	Are you moving so you bought the paper to pack some beer mugs in boxes??? __________________ Climb, Surf, Fish, Repeat

02-25-2016, 09:09 AM	#5
dmrides Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Point Loma Posts: 584	What technically defines a "stranded" sealion? Has this definition changed in recent years? In any case, in situations like this it is best to let nature dictate the proper course of action. Nature has a pretty good batting average in terms of solving its own problems. Ultimately I think George is right though, the fisherman will likely be the ones to blame. There will be a select group of secretly funded "scientists" who will determine that this problem has nothing to do with pollution, deforestation, or climate change and that the only solution will be to close more of the most productive fishing grounds that are in front of affluent people's houses or near future offshore drilling locations.

02-25-2016, 09:22 AM	#6
WARRIORMIKE Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2015 Posts: 303	I'm more amazed that people still read the newspaper.

02-25-2016, 12:33 PM	#9
GregAndrew Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 2,384	The stupid thing about this is that they are basing their opinions on the number of reported"strandings", not head counts. As with just about any species on earth, in times of prosperity, they reproduce prolifically. When the prosperity continues, you get a high survival rate and lots of potential new parents. When times get tough, all those new parents have new babies that need seasoned adults showing them better how to survive. Let alone how to just ween their off spring. Now, remember how much Squid we had for almost 2 straight years. There is no shortage of food for Sea Lions out there if they know where to look, and what is eddible. But they still need to know how to target and catch it. They are absolutely going to blame it on us for taking too many fish out of the mouths of pups.

02-25-2016, 01:30 PM	#10
MrPatrick Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Waiting to launch Posts: 1,381	I imagine they taste like bear or dog.

02-25-2016, 02:34 PM	#12
cabojohn PROBATION Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 656	Delicious compared to Penguin. The younger ones taste better btw. Join the CLUB.

02-25-2016, 03:40 PM	#14
2-Stix Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2015 Location: Ventura, CA Posts: 376	its all comes and goes in cycles.

02-25-2016, 11:08 PM	#18
Rambo Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: West Covina, CA Posts: 434	It's only a matter of time when they'll open up hunting season on the sealion infestation. And we'll be ready for them!!!