Yakfishing etiquette-Input needed! - Kayak Fishing Adventures on Big Water’s Edge

Bluewater Jon · 04-17-2008, 09:38 PM

Hi folks Jon Schwartz here. I am writing an article and I need some info on the do's and don'ts of manners out there on the water. What do people do out there that bugs you? What should they have done, had they only known better? Here's a chance to get your voice heard.
Tx,
Jon
http://www.bluewaterjon.com

dorf · 04-18-2008, 05:51 AM

The first thing that comes to mind is:
It sucks when you are bendo on a nice sized fish and some Jack Ass comes over and tries to get in on the action. WTF!? You wind up getting tangled up with them and losing your fish.
I hate it when that happens.
When you see someone is working a fish give them room.

Another one:
Be social.
If you are approaching an area you would like to fish and there happens to be another yaker there at least say "hello".

Good luck with the article.

Handymansd · 04-18-2008, 12:45 PM

I have only been doing this for a couple of years, but there are definitely a couple of basic courtesy rules that help us all.

1) BE AWARE...Keep your distance from anyone with a fish on! They will ask for help if they need it!

2) BE AWARE...if you are going to troll in front of someone, move your ass don't just stop and make them avoid you!

3) BE AWARE... and don't troll over other's lines!

4) Pull all of your lines in when approaching others.

5) Brad's rule of distance seems to work well. We should not be able to both throw Irons and have them hit (That can be difficult at times.. but if you are trying to respect the other yakker's out there you will probably succeed in being courteous.

6) Stay away from the Sport Boats... Period.

My $0.02

Bigfoot Suit Guy · 04-18-2008, 03:17 PM

One does not have to always paddle your Trident straight at those that are hooked up and ride right up their hiney.

dpliska · 04-18-2008, 03:37 PM

Do: obey restricted areas; use common sense

Don't: argue with port police, dfg wardens, or lifeguards

Useful Idiot · 04-18-2008, 04:39 PM

Don't cross people's troll lines and don't cross anyone's bow with troll lines out.

chunkymunky80 · 04-18-2008, 05:58 PM

carry a whistle let others know your there and dont troll in front of someone you dont want somebody to get a jig in there face like the guy in the tresher video

lamb · 04-19-2008, 10:26 PM

always offer bait on your way in. It may make someone's day.

Yeah, don't be pretending that you don't see someone when you're passing 10 yards away. "Hi" is civil.

Give people crap when you catch a big fish. I heard that's back in fashion again.

Behave at the ramp.

KFACA's got a great write up by fellow kayakers:

La Jolla Shores Beach Launch Etiquette
La Jolla is one of the best kayak launch sites we know of in Southern California. Think of the benefits - variety of sea life, coastal beauty, amenities, and about the only place where you can pull your car on the beach to offload your gear.

But as we all know, there are some rules that have been set by the lifeguards including; 5 minute load or unload, keeping a clear path along the water line, no kayak surfing in the launch area, and others. Unfortunately, the lifeguards routinely need to give verbal warnings at the launch ramp.

We all love the beach launching aspect and should take that as a privilege not a right. It would be a shame to see that privilege taken away due to injuries, confrontations, or abuses. Without access to the ramp, we would need to drag our yaks and gear from the parking areas.

That is why whenever I go to La Jolla I try to do my part and follow a few simple rules:

1. Get there early and beat the traffic. Not only the launch site traffic. Parking too.

2. Keep my yak way up on the dry sand. Lifeguards do not like the yaks (or cars) blocking vehicle traffic or access along the water line.

3. Get my car off the sand as quickly as possible. Not as important at a 6:00 a.m. launch when few people are around. Very important when leaving because that is usually midday when launch site traffic is at it's peak.

4. Pack/arrange/organize my kayak and gear and break down what I can before going to get my car.

5. When the car is on the sand, it's time to unload/load - limit socializing, eat later, play later. Nothing seems to bug lifeguards more than when the area is jammed with vehicles that are parked and not actively being loaded or unloaded.

6. I avoid blocking the beach access driveway, giving other traffic the space needed to cross loose sand without bogging. When driving onto the beach I keep to a steady speed to glide over the loose sand and don’t stop where I might get stuck.

7. When the beach launch is crowded such as on the weekends and holidays I carry my kayak or use wheels or a kayak cart to get my kayak to and from the beach. Doing so can save time by allowing me to go straight to my parking spot and leisurely ready or stow my yak.

8. I dispose of all of my trash properly. Besides being unsightly, a hook carelessly discarded in the sand could ruin a beachgoer’s day.

9. Be good neighbors by being very aware of the hotel guests when launching early. In order to minimize their disturbance, avoid shining your headlights directly on the hotel, or playing loud music.

You might not be able to load or unload in five minutes. If all we had was a yak, paddle, and seat it would be easy. But there is a lot of gear on our rigs and it can easily take 10 to 15 minutes. However, if you follow these etiquette tips it is much less likely you will be approached by a lifeguard.

Contributed by KFACA members Bernard and Pumori

http://www.kfaca.org/articles.htm#La%20Jolla%20Shores%20Beach%20Launch% 20Etiquette

h2ofishfo · 04-20-2008, 08:23 AM

good points what about the guy that feels the need 2 have 200yds of troll line out reel up just a smidge buddy

herefishyfishy! · 04-20-2008, 09:17 AM

Saw a PB fisherman hanging his rear end over the side of his boat right in the middle of a bunch of boats and yaks in LJ. I didnt see "it", but I saw the look on his face and knew exactly what he was doing.

Please dont release brown trout in the "catch zone". I understand there are "emergencies at sea", but atleast go out to 40 fathoms before handling your business. After your morning cup of joe, and before launch is the opportune time to pinch one off.

Kinda nasty, and I dont know how you would write that into an article, but had to say it.

Evan

madscientist · 04-21-2008, 02:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by herefishyfishy!

Saw a PB fisherman hanging his rear end over the side of his boat right in the middle of a bunch of boats and yaks in LJ. I didnt see "it", but I saw the look on his face and knew exactly what he was doing.

Please dont release brown trout in the "catch zone". I understand there are "emergencies at sea", but atleast go out to 40 fathoms before handling your business. After your morning cup of joe, and before launch is the opportune time to pinch one off.

Kinda nasty, and I dont know how you would write that into an article, but had to say it.

Evan

A corollary. If you see a yakker suddenly start paddling for deeper water after he finishes his coffee, don't follow him around unless you have TP.

Bigfoot Suit Guy · 04-21-2008, 03:10 PM

That guy in the boat must have been trying to get the Sand Bass to go.

jscott · 04-21-2008, 06:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by madscientist

A corollary. If you see a yakker suddenly start paddling for deeper water after he finishes his coffee, don't follow him around unless you have TP.

lol lol lol

Sherm · 04-22-2008, 02:14 PM

Ditto on the two hundred yards of spectra out behind you trolling. You don't need to troll back that far.

soulwinner · 04-23-2008, 12:12 PM

Some dont's
Feed sea lions ever!
leave fishing line attached to any animal or as litter
pass off sea lions to another yakker
troll behind someone
fish in anyones chum line
try to out run pbers let them choose which way to go around
when landing dont park your yak right next to another leave room for their vehicle
cause someone to lose their fish
gloat unless your humble about it!
leave squid or macks under your bait tank for days

Also avoid cattle boats and clueless pbers that wake you.
To avoid a pber from running over your line make a head on paddle towards them so they cant, instead of trying angle away they cant see your line

Some do's
Help people landing anticipate the yard sale
take pix of people fighting fish they appreciate a good bendo shot
offer bait even if not asked.
offer congrats even if it was blind luck never to be duplicated.

04-17-2008, 09:38 PM	#1
Bluewater Jon Author & yakker Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Carlsbad Posts: 34	Yakfishing etiquette-Input needed! Hi folks Jon Schwartz here. I am writing an article and I need some info on the do's and don'ts of manners out there on the water. What do people do out there that bugs you? What should they have done, had they only known better? Here's a chance to get your voice heard. Tx, Jon http://www.bluewaterjon.com

04-18-2008, 05:51 AM	#2
dorf Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: San Diego Posts: 279	The first thing that comes to mind is: It sucks when you are bendo on a nice sized fish and some Jack Ass comes over and tries to get in on the action. WTF!? You wind up getting tangled up with them and losing your fish. I hate it when that happens. When you see someone is working a fish give them room. Another one: Be social. If you are approaching an area you would like to fish and there happens to be another yaker there at least say "hello". Good luck with the article. __________________ Don't try to confuse me with facts! I hereby reject your reality and submit my own.

04-18-2008, 12:45 PM	#3
Handymansd Ancient Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: On The Water Posts: 935	I have only been doing this for a couple of years, but there are definitely a couple of basic courtesy rules that help us all. 1) BE AWARE...Keep your distance from anyone with a fish on! They will ask for help if they need it! 2) BE AWARE...if you are going to troll in front of someone, move your ass don't just stop and make them avoid you! 3) BE AWARE... and don't troll over other's lines! 4) Pull all of your lines in when approaching others. 5) Brad's rule of distance seems to work well. We should not be able to both throw Irons and have them hit (That can be difficult at times.. but if you are trying to respect the other yakker's out there you will probably succeed in being courteous. 6) Stay away from the Sport Boats... Period. My $0.02 __________________ All men are equal before fish. -Herbert Hoover

04-18-2008, 03:37 PM	#5
dpliska Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 50	Do: obey restricted areas; use common sense Don't: argue with port police, dfg wardens, or lifeguards __________________ David Pliska

04-18-2008, 04:39 PM	#6
Useful Idiot Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 286	Don't cross people's troll lines and don't cross anyone's bow with troll lines out. __________________

04-18-2008, 03:17 PM	#4
Bigfoot Suit Guy Junior Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 10	One does not have to always paddle your Trident straight at those that are hooked up and ride right up their hiney.

04-18-2008, 05:58 PM	#7
chunkymunky80 Junior Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: whittier california Posts: 3	carry a whistle let others know your there and dont troll in front of someone you dont want somebody to get a jig in there face like the guy in the tresher video

04-19-2008, 10:26 PM	#8
lamb Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 2,568	always offer bait on your way in. It may make someone's day. Yeah, don't be pretending that you don't see someone when you're passing 10 yards away. "Hi" is civil. Give people crap when you catch a big fish. I heard that's back in fashion again. Behave at the ramp. KFACA's got a great write up by fellow kayakers: *La Jolla Shores Beach Launch Etiquette* La Jolla is one of the best kayak launch sites we know of in Southern California. Think of the benefits - variety of sea life, coastal beauty, amenities, and about the only place where you can pull your car on the beach to offload your gear. But as we all know, there are some rules that have been set by the lifeguards including; 5 minute load or unload, keeping a clear path along the water line, no kayak surfing in the launch area, and others. Unfortunately, the lifeguards routinely need to give verbal warnings at the launch ramp. We all love the beach launching aspect and should take that as a privilege not a right. It would be a shame to see that privilege taken away due to injuries, confrontations, or abuses. Without access to the ramp, we would need to drag our yaks and gear from the parking areas. That is why whenever I go to La Jolla I try to do my part and follow a few simple rules: 1. Get there early and beat the traffic. Not only the launch site traffic. Parking too. 2. Keep my yak way up on the dry sand. Lifeguards do not like the yaks (or cars) blocking vehicle traffic or access along the water line. 3. Get my car off the sand as quickly as possible. Not as important at a 6:00 a.m. launch when few people are around. Very important when leaving because that is usually midday when launch site traffic is at it's peak. 4. Pack/arrange/organize my kayak and gear and break down what I can before going to get my car. 5. When the car is on the sand, it's time to unload/load - limit socializing, eat later, play later. Nothing seems to bug lifeguards more than when the area is jammed with vehicles that are parked and not actively being loaded or unloaded. 6. I avoid blocking the beach access driveway, giving other traffic the space needed to cross loose sand without bogging. When driving onto the beach I keep to a steady speed to glide over the loose sand and don’t stop where I might get stuck. 7. When the beach launch is crowded such as on the weekends and holidays I carry my kayak or use wheels or a kayak cart to get my kayak to and from the beach. Doing so can save time by allowing me to go straight to my parking spot and leisurely ready or stow my yak. 8. I dispose of all of my trash properly. Besides being unsightly, a hook carelessly discarded in the sand could ruin a beachgoer’s day. 9. Be good neighbors by being very aware of the hotel guests when launching early. In order to minimize their disturbance, avoid shining your headlights directly on the hotel, or playing loud music. You might not be able to load or unload in five minutes. If all we had was a yak, paddle, and seat it would be easy. But there is a lot of gear on our rigs and it can easily take 10 to 15 minutes. However, if you follow these etiquette tips it is much less likely you will be approached by a lifeguard. Contributed by KFACA members Bernard and Pumori http://www.kfaca.org/articles.htm#La%20Jolla%20Shores%20Beach%20Launch% 20Etiquette __________________ [------------------------ <)))< ....b-a-a-a-a

04-20-2008, 08:23 AM	#9
h2ofishfo Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Santee Posts: 821	good points what about the guy that feels the need 2 have 200yds of troll line out reel up just a smidge buddy

04-20-2008, 09:17 AM	#10
herefishyfishy! Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: La Mesa Posts: 154	Saw a PB fisherman hanging his rear end over the side of his boat right in the middle of a bunch of boats and yaks in LJ. I didnt see "it", but I saw the look on his face and knew exactly what he was doing. Please dont release brown trout in the "catch zone". I understand there are "emergencies at sea", but atleast go out to 40 fathoms before handling your business. After your morning cup of joe, and before launch is the opportune time to pinch one off. Kinda nasty, and I dont know how you would write that into an article, but had to say it. Evan

04-21-2008, 03:10 PM	#12
Bigfoot Suit Guy Junior Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 10	That guy in the boat must have been trying to get the Sand Bass to go.

04-22-2008, 02:14 PM	#14
Sherm Senior Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: San Diego Posts: 490	Ditto on the two hundred yards of spectra out behind you trolling. You don't need to troll back that far.

04-23-2008, 12:12 PM	#15
soulwinner Junior Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 5	Some dont's Feed sea lions ever! leave fishing line attached to any animal or as litter pass off sea lions to another yakker troll behind someone fish in anyones chum line try to out run pbers let them choose which way to go around when landing dont park your yak right next to another leave room for their vehicle cause someone to lose their fish gloat unless your humble about it! leave squid or macks under your bait tank for days Also avoid cattle boats and clueless pbers that wake you. To avoid a pber from running over your line make a head on paddle towards them so they cant, instead of trying angle away they cant see your line Some do's Help people landing anticipate the yard sale take pix of people fighting fish they appreciate a good bendo shot offer bait even if not asked. offer congrats even if it was blind luck never to be duplicated.