How do you know your ready! - Kayak Fishing Adventures on Big Water’s Edge

Robs · 06-22-2015, 11:29 AM

How do you know your ready to transition from bay fishing to ocean fishing? How long is the paddle to the kelp from La Jolla? I have a tarpon 160 and a moken 12.5. Which is a better yak for the trip? Thanks in advance for the help

MrPatrick · 06-22-2015, 11:35 AM

You're ready when you feel comfortable and have confidence in your abilities. As far the kayak choice first go on the one you feel most comfortable on. Pick a small surf day and try to go out with others that don't mind showing you the ropes. I do recommend going to La Jolla without fishing gear and practicing launching and landing. It's good to practice and I think it's fun.

kjsdad619 · 06-22-2015, 11:39 AM

I didn't know I was ready I just made the decision to hit up LJ for the first time a few weeks ago for my 40th BDAY. Getting in was easier than I expected and the paddle out was real easy on that day, It only took about 10 minutes to hit the edge of the beds. The swell was non existent and the sun was out full force. I fished the outside for awhile and then went into the kelp beds and this is where we yakers have a leg up on the boats. I ended up catching 3 Calicos, 13, 13.5 and 19.5. Released two kept just one because it was my birthday, I usually always let them go. Coming back into shore wasn't bad at all, worse case scenario if it gets skiddish with the waves you just have to jump out and walk it in. I just got back from the Pt Loma kelp beds this weekend on Saturday..MUCH longer distance and ZERO fish for me but always a good time. I have a hobie and it's 14 feet, but I have seen all sizes out there. And it really will boil down to you and what you feel most comfortable in. I went real light the first time I went out..just a couple poles..just in case I lawn darted in the surf.

If you ever want to go hit me up.

GregAndrew · 06-22-2015, 06:27 PM

LJ is usually about as close to bay fishing as you are going to get in the open ocean.
You are ready when:
You have all the right safety gear.
You know how to upright and reenter your loaded kayak.
You no longer need to take all boat wakes head on.
And you feel comfortable in your yak.

And then, work your way up through higher swells and wind speeds gradually.

jorluivil · 06-22-2015, 06:58 PM

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Originally Posted by GregAndrew

LJ is usually about as close to bay fishing as you are going to get in the open ocean.
You are ready when:
You have all the right safety gear.
You know how to upright and reenter your loaded kayak.
You no longer need to take all boat wakes head on.

Really, Greg? Really?

Its no fun if you don't take one to the chest

And you feel comfortable in your yak.

And then, work your way up through higher swells and wind speeds gradually.

Best advise I can give you is to never launch/land when I launch/land. That is unless you want to get wet and have one of those 'I almost died stories'.

makobob · 06-22-2015, 07:03 PM

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Originally Posted by jorluivil

Best advise I can give you is to never launch/land when I launch/land. That is unless you want to get wet and have one of those 'I almost died stories'.

Nothing wrong with I almost DIED stories. As long as..................................

Robs · 06-22-2015, 08:33 PM

Thanks I just gotta go out and do it

taggermike · 06-23-2015, 07:09 AM

LA Jolla has a "big deal" mystique around it. Some is well deserved; chance to catch a big fish any day of the year, maybe see amazing marine life. But in other aspects its just a fishing spot and easy to fish. The surf is usually very small, the paddle out isn't too far and you can often catch fish with out going way around the corner. Some surf practice is very helpful as is knowing how to self rescue. Going with a partner can help with the confidence. LJ can get rough and windy, but no worse than any other place. Find a wing man and go. Mike

Robs · 06-23-2015, 08:20 AM

Ok, thanks Mike.

dsutter775 · 06-23-2015, 08:51 AM

My first time ever kayaking I hit up La Jolla. I've learned a lot since then and now realize that probably wasn't the best decision but its not as bad as it seems to be made out by some. Easy launch, easy paddle. The landing is the hardest part but just gotta time it right...

f'nsabiki · 06-23-2015, 09:15 AM

When will you be ready??--when you need a wheelbarrow to get to the launch. j/k

If I were you, I would go to La Jolla with no fishing gear, and just practice going through the surf. I think you will find the biggest challenge will be the summer crowds.

ironcross6921 · 06-23-2015, 09:38 AM

While I do agree with practicing launching and landing, I think you should bring your gear (just make sure to strap it down really good and no hooks to get caught on) A loaded kayak handles different than unloaded and you need to practice under the same conditions you'll be launching/landing in. I took my PA 14 with no gear down when I first got it just to see how difficult it would be and had zero issues. Next trip while jumping into the seat managed to hook myself in the calf. Not saying it wouldn't have happened anyways but just going based on my practice I wasn't considering having 3 poles with hooks laying on the side I board. Then consider the added weight (your not moving as quick anymore) and timing the waves becomes that more critical. I own two PA14s and for awhile when I took my buddies out I would load all the gear on mine so the launch wouldn't be as tough for them but then the first time I left the gear on theirs all 3 of them on 3 separate occasions wiped out, once again not saying it wouldn't have happen just that it seemed they had gotten comfortable with the way the kayak handled empty and got complacent so when it came time to launch loaded they probably weren't as alert as the would have been their first few times.
ALTHOUGH La Jolla is probably the most forgiving when it comes to wipeouts and surf is rarely very big.

Jimmyz123 · 06-23-2015, 10:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Robs

How do you know your ready to transition from bay fishing to ocean fishing? How long is the paddle to the kelp from La Jolla? I have a tarpon 160 and a moken 12.5. Which is a better yak for the trip? Thanks in advance for the help

Both Kayaks you have are great for heading out to the kelp. The answer to your question is do you feel ready? Do you feel that if you get tipped that you can get back in your boat. Do you feel you have a good grasp on surf launching and landing? Have you tried paddling in and out of the waves in your kayak to get a feel for it? So do this and some don't. Paddling distance should not be something that scares you. Don't let the distance from the beach to the kelp keep you from paddling out. Check out the link below and watch some of the tips for launching and landing kayaks in the surf, trust me, they will help.
https://www.youtube.com/results?sear...+kayak+in+surf

Robs · 06-24-2015, 09:22 PM

I did it!!!! I went out today and got comfortable in the surf, launching and coming back in. I even made that quick paddle to the kelp. I didnt bring my gear but great experence. Thanks to all for the good info and tips.

AirborneYak · 06-24-2015, 09:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Robs

I did it!!!! I went out today and got comfortable in the surf, launching and coming back in. I even made that quick paddle to the kelp. I didnt bring my gear but great experence. Thanks to all for the good info and tips.

Congrats! You got the first time jitters out of the way!

f'nsabiki · 06-24-2015, 11:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Robs

I did it!!!! I went out today and got comfortable in the surf, launching and coming back in. I even made that quick paddle to the kelp. I didnt bring my gear but great experence. Thanks to all for the good info and tips.

good for you for getting out!! even better that it was a weekday

Goose1993 · 06-27-2015, 09:05 AM

Haha kayaking in the ocean is not difficult...

06-22-2015, 11:29 AM	#1
Robs Junior Join Date: Jun 2015 Location: San Diego Posts: 5	How do you know your ready! How do you know your ready to transition from bay fishing to ocean fishing? How long is the paddle to the kelp from La Jolla? I have a tarpon 160 and a moken 12.5. Which is a better yak for the trip? Thanks in advance for the help

06-22-2015, 11:39 AM	#3
kjsdad619 Just a Salty Sailor Join Date: Jun 2015 Location: San Diego Posts: 193	Your ready! I didn't know I was ready I just made the decision to hit up LJ for the first time a few weeks ago for my 40th BDAY. Getting in was easier than I expected and the paddle out was real easy on that day, It only took about 10 minutes to hit the edge of the beds. The swell was non existent and the sun was out full force. I fished the outside for awhile and then went into the kelp beds and this is where we yakers have a leg up on the boats. I ended up catching 3 Calicos, 13, 13.5 and 19.5. Released two kept just one because it was my birthday, I usually always let them go. Coming back into shore wasn't bad at all, worse case scenario if it gets skiddish with the waves you just have to jump out and walk it in. I just got back from the Pt Loma kelp beds this weekend on Saturday..MUCH longer distance and ZERO fish for me but always a good time. I have a hobie and it's 14 feet, but I have seen all sizes out there. And it really will boil down to you and what you feel most comfortable in. I went real light the first time I went out..just a couple poles..just in case I lawn darted in the surf. If you ever want to go hit me up.

06-22-2015, 11:35 AM	#2
MrPatrick Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Waiting to launch Posts: 1,381	You're ready when you feel comfortable and have confidence in your abilities. As far the kayak choice first go on the one you feel most comfortable on. Pick a small surf day and try to go out with others that don't mind showing you the ropes. I do recommend going to La Jolla without fishing gear and practicing launching and landing. It's good to practice and I think it's fun.

06-22-2015, 06:27 PM	#4
GregAndrew Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 2,384	LJ is usually about as close to bay fishing as you are going to get in the open ocean. You are ready when: You have all the right safety gear. You know how to upright and reenter your loaded kayak. You no longer need to take all boat wakes head on. And you feel comfortable in your yak. And then, work your way up through higher swells and wind speeds gradually.

06-22-2015, 08:33 PM	#7
Robs Junior Join Date: Jun 2015 Location: San Diego Posts: 5	Thanks I just gotta go out and do it

06-23-2015, 07:09 AM	#8
taggermike Senior Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: Chula Vista Posts: 1,589	LA Jolla has a "big deal" mystique around it. Some is well deserved; chance to catch a big fish any day of the year, maybe see amazing marine life. But in other aspects its just a fishing spot and easy to fish. The surf is usually very small, the paddle out isn't too far and you can often catch fish with out going way around the corner. Some surf practice is very helpful as is knowing how to self rescue. Going with a partner can help with the confidence. LJ can get rough and windy, but no worse than any other place. Find a wing man and go. Mike

06-23-2015, 08:20 AM	#9
Robs Junior Join Date: Jun 2015 Location: San Diego Posts: 5	Ok, thanks Mike.

06-23-2015, 08:51 AM	#10
dsutter775 Malibu X Factor Join Date: May 2015 Posts: 57	My first time ever kayaking I hit up La Jolla. I've learned a lot since then and now realize that probably wasn't the best decision but its not as bad as it seems to be made out by some. Easy launch, easy paddle. The landing is the hardest part but just gotta time it right...

06-23-2015, 09:15 AM	#11
f'nsabiki Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 304	When will you be ready??--when you need a wheelbarrow to get to the launch. j/k If I were you, I would go to La Jolla with no fishing gear, and just practice going through the surf. I think you will find the biggest challenge will be the summer crowds.

06-23-2015, 09:38 AM	#12
ironcross6921 Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2014 Posts: 165	While I do agree with practicing launching and landing, I think you should bring your gear (just make sure to strap it down really good and no hooks to get caught on) A loaded kayak handles different than unloaded and you need to practice under the same conditions you'll be launching/landing in. I took my PA 14 with no gear down when I first got it just to see how difficult it would be and had zero issues. Next trip while jumping into the seat managed to hook myself in the calf. Not saying it wouldn't have happened anyways but just going based on my practice I wasn't considering having 3 poles with hooks laying on the side I board. Then consider the added weight (your not moving as quick anymore) and timing the waves becomes that more critical. I own two PA14s and for awhile when I took my buddies out I would load all the gear on mine so the launch wouldn't be as tough for them but then the first time I left the gear on theirs all 3 of them on 3 separate occasions wiped out, once again not saying it wouldn't have happen just that it seemed they had gotten comfortable with the way the kayak handled empty and got complacent so when it came time to launch loaded they probably weren't as alert as the would have been their first few times. ALTHOUGH La Jolla is probably the most forgiving when it comes to wipeouts and surf is rarely very big.

06-24-2015, 09:22 PM	#14
Robs Junior Join Date: Jun 2015 Location: San Diego Posts: 5	I did it!!!! I went out today and got comfortable in the surf, launching and coming back in. I even made that quick paddle to the kelp. I didnt bring my gear but great experence. Thanks to all for the good info and tips.

06-27-2015, 09:05 AM	#17
Goose1993 Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2015 Location: San Diego Posts: 115	Haha kayaking in the ocean is not difficult...