cant find a reel for surface irons - Kayak Fishing Adventures on Big Water’s Edge

benichi · 04-01-2015, 02:35 AM

Allright so I'm looking at getting a phenix abyss 9 foot rod

I have been trying to come up with a great reel to pair it With for casting surface irons.. but no buddy I know has the reels I have been looking at. What are your guys thoughts on the reel that should be on here.. will get something like 40lb braid with a 30 lb leader.
I was looking a turium but can't seam to find one to mess with. I like star drags with a clicker that's a plus for me

FARRIER · 04-01-2015, 06:58 AM

I like my saltist 35 h, but i use it between all my rods. I have it spooled with 65 pound braid, not because you need the strength. I dont always backlash, but when i do i usually

Rambo · 04-01-2015, 07:24 AM

I paired my abyss with a tranx, then later swap to a lexa 400. Both will do nicely if your a lover of baitcaster reels. Smooth and nice controls on your cast.

ROSSOLY · 04-01-2015, 08:04 AM

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Originally Posted by FARRIER

I like my saltist 35 h, but i use it between all my rods. I have it spooled with 65 pound braid, not because you need the strength. I dont always backlash, but when i do i usually

Lol, looks like my reels...

taggermike · 04-01-2015, 09:25 AM

I have the same rod and paired it with a Trini 16n. Casted great but the Trini was way too much for that light rod. After hearing great reviews I'm planning on putting a lexa 400 on it. If you want a round reel the Seagate 35 might be good. Old school, but a Newell 332 or super narrow 322 would be amazing on that rod. Seriously. Plenty of drag for a rod of that line rating, super light, and IMO Newell's are still the best casting reels ever made. Damn, I'm talking myself in to a Newell 322 now. Mike.

Dannowar · 04-01-2015, 09:36 AM

i use a well tuned penn jig master or squidder

skrilla · 04-01-2015, 09:42 AM

I still fish with a hot rodded Jigmaster for surface irons. But a newer similar sized reel is probably the better choice. The taller spool combined with a moderately fast ratio allows me to gain in line quickly on the hook set as well as "catch up" if the fish heads straight in.

As far as line I prefer 40# test minimum. Its a reaction bite so no need to be stealthy with line size. Straight mono or long wind on of it as well. I don't like mono to braid connections going thru the guide train on a cast so a wind on of at least the length of my furthest cast. Also mono gives you some stretch which for me helps avoid pulled hooks. I back my mono with 80# braid. If a fish does take me to my backing the thickness of 80# braid will keep from digging into itself.

benichi · 04-01-2015, 10:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Rambo

I paired my abyss with a tranx, then later swap to a lexa 400. Both will do nicely if your a lover of baitcaster reels. Smooth and nice controls on your cast.

hey I never thought of the lexa 400 thanks this might be the one.

619-SWIM-DOG · 04-01-2015, 10:25 AM

Have you looked at coffee grinders? Perhaps the Penn Spinfisher V SSV7500.

YakDout · 04-01-2015, 04:46 PM

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Originally Posted by benichi

hey I never thought of the lexa 400 thanks this might be the one.

Lexa 400 is an awesome reel. Casts a jig a mile and the magnetic cast adjustment is on the outside of the reel. Very helpful! Strong enough for anything on a kayak.

easyday · 04-01-2015, 08:53 PM

I love my Saltist 35BG, I can really launch an iron with that thing.

Raskal311 · 04-01-2015, 09:32 PM

X2 on the saltist I'm a terrible caster but I can sling an iron a mile on a saltist 40H.

benichi · 04-01-2015, 09:32 PM

im a left hand reel guy forgot to say that

buddha · 04-01-2015, 09:34 PM

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Originally Posted by benichi

im a left hand reel guy forgot to say that

The Lexa 400 comes in left handed.

benichi · 04-02-2015, 04:16 PM

so far im really leaning to the lexa 400 that is a nice reel!!!

boxturtle · 04-02-2015, 04:21 PM

I like the old school reels.....Trinidad/torium 16 saltiest/saltiga 30t. 50 or 65lb braid and 30/40lb leader. I like to go at least 50lb on the braid just for the feel and I know for sure it would cut through the kelp

corpsmanusn2001 · 04-02-2015, 04:23 PM

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Originally Posted by FARRIER

I like my saltist 35 h, but i use it between all my rods. I have it spooled with 65 pound braid, not because you need the strength. I dont always backlash, but when i do i usually

Lol. Who hasn't done that.

FlyFishinYakr · 04-02-2015, 05:28 PM

I absolutely "LOVE" my Newell 322's. I like the narrow spool making line leveling just natural! I like the 5:1 Newell 322 over the 4:1 Penn 99's (albacore special).
And just try to find a 322 in decent condition without paying "through the nose" for it!

If you're looking for a bait caster...have you checked out the Abu-Garcia Revo Toro Inshore NaCl 60? It has line capacity of 330 yd. of 30# braid and 22# drag! Comes in 6.4:1 or 5.4:1 and a NaCl 50 available in same gear ratios but 300 yd. of 30# braid.
Braid capacities are probably off just a bit. My Shimano 300 EJ's, Curado 200I's, and my Revo Inshore reels are all short by 10-15%!
I just bought 2 - 6.4:1 NaCl 60 HS's @ $210 ea. Regular retail $299ea.
FFY

octico · 04-06-2015, 05:02 PM

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Originally Posted by FlyFishinYakr

I absolutely "LOVE" my Newell 322's. I like the narrow spool making line leveling just natural! I like the 5:1 Newell 322 over the 4:1 Penn 99's (albacore special).
And just try to find a 322 in decent condition without paying "through the nose" for it!

If you're looking for a bait caster...have you checked out the Abu-Garcia Revo Toro Inshore NaCl 60? It has line capacity of 330 yd. of 30# braid and 22# drag! Comes in 6.4:1 or 5.4:1 and a NaCl 50 available in same gear ratios but 300 yd. of 30# braid.
Braid capacities are probably off just a bit. My Shimano 300 EJ's, Curado 200I's, and my Revo Inshore reels are all short by 10-15%!
I just bought 2 - 6.4:1 NaCl 60 HS's @ $210 ea. Regular retail $299ea.
FFY

What rod did you put your Toro 60 on?

Lipripper92592 · 04-06-2015, 08:34 PM

For us lefties.....There is the Avet Line, JX with MC will handle just about anything on the Socal coast on a casting setup. The Lexa 400 looks pretty sweet, but I have no idea how long it will hold up. But I'm sure you'll find one in my arsenal in the next year. I'm running the lefty JX without MC and love it, but would sure like to try the MC for a day or two.

04-01-2015, 02:35 AM	#1
benichi Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2015 Location: Riverside Posts: 102	cant find a reel for surface irons Allright so I'm looking at getting a phenix abyss 9 foot rod I have been trying to come up with a great reel to pair it With for casting surface irons.. but no buddy I know has the reels I have been looking at. What are your guys thoughts on the reel that should be on here.. will get something like 40lb braid with a 30 lb leader. I was looking a turium but can't seam to find one to mess with. I like star drags with a clicker that's a plus for me __________________

04-01-2015, 09:36 AM	#6
Dannowar Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Posts: 1,823	i use a well tuned penn jig master or squidder __________________ "Beware the lollipop of mediocrity; lick it once and you’ll suck forever." — Brian Wilson

04-01-2015, 09:42 AM	#7
skrilla Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: San Diego Posts: 664	I still fish with a hot rodded Jigmaster for surface irons. But a newer similar sized reel is probably the better choice. The taller spool combined with a moderately fast ratio allows me to gain in line quickly on the hook set as well as "catch up" if the fish heads straight in. As far as line I prefer 40# test minimum. Its a reaction bite so no need to be stealthy with line size. Straight mono or long wind on of it as well. I don't like mono to braid connections going thru the guide train on a cast so a wind on of at least the length of my furthest cast. Also mono gives you some stretch which for me helps avoid pulled hooks. I back my mono with 80# braid. If a fish does take me to my backing the thickness of 80# braid will keep from digging into itself. __________________ Urban Camo Trident 13

04-01-2015, 08:53 PM	#11
easyday Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: Oceanside Posts: 1,469	I love my Saltist 35BG, I can really launch an iron with that thing. __________________

04-01-2015, 09:32 PM	#12
Raskal311 Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Santa Ana/Westminster Posts: 1,256	X2 on the saltist I'm a terrible caster but I can sling an iron a mile on a saltist 40H. __________________ Kevin Yellow PA12 Last edited by Raskal311; 04-01-2015 at 09:37 PM.

04-01-2015, 07:24 AM	#3
Rambo Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: West Covina, CA Posts: 434	I paired my abyss with a tranx, then later swap to a lexa 400. Both will do nicely if your a lover of baitcaster reels. Smooth and nice controls on your cast.

04-01-2015, 09:25 AM	#5
taggermike Senior Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: Chula Vista Posts: 1,589	I have the same rod and paired it with a Trini 16n. Casted great but the Trini was way too much for that light rod. After hearing great reviews I'm planning on putting a lexa 400 on it. If you want a round reel the Seagate 35 might be good. Old school, but a Newell 332 or super narrow 322 would be amazing on that rod. Seriously. Plenty of drag for a rod of that line rating, super light, and IMO Newell's are still the best casting reels ever made. Damn, I'm talking myself in to a Newell 322 now. Mike.

04-01-2015, 10:25 AM	#9
619-SWIM-DOG Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: San Diego Posts: 619	Have you looked at coffee grinders? Perhaps the Penn Spinfisher V SSV7500.

04-02-2015, 04:16 PM	#15
benichi Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2015 Location: Riverside Posts: 102	so far im really leaning to the lexa 400 that is a nice reel!!! __________________

04-02-2015, 04:21 PM	#16
boxturtle Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2012 Posts: 291	I like the old school reels.....Trinidad/torium 16 saltiest/saltiga 30t. 50 or 65lb braid and 30/40lb leader. I like to go at least 50lb on the braid just for the feel and I know for sure it would cut through the kelp

04-02-2015, 05:28 PM	#18
FlyFishinYakr Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Nor Cal...30 min from Bodega/Tomales Bay, 1hr from Clear Lake, 2+ hr to Berryessa & the Delta Posts: 729	I absolutely "LOVE" my Newell 322's. I like the narrow spool making line leveling just natural! I like the 5:1 Newell 322 over the 4:1 Penn 99's (albacore special). And just try to find a 322 in decent condition without paying "through the nose" for it! If you're looking for a bait caster...have you checked out the Abu-Garcia Revo Toro Inshore NaCl 60? It has line capacity of 330 yd. of 30# braid and 22# drag! Comes in 6.4:1 or 5.4:1 and a NaCl 50 available in same gear ratios but 300 yd. of 30# braid. Braid capacities are probably off just a bit. My Shimano 300 EJ's, Curado 200I's, and my Revo Inshore reels are all short by 10-15%! I just bought 2 - 6.4:1 NaCl 60 HS's @ $210 ea. Regular retail $299ea. FFY Last edited by FlyFishinYakr; 04-02-2015 at 05:46 PM. Reason: Add specs.

04-06-2015, 08:34 PM	#20
Lipripper92592 Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2012 Posts: 516	For us lefties.....There is the Avet Line, JX with MC will handle just about anything on the Socal coast on a casting setup. The Lexa 400 looks pretty sweet, but I have no idea how long it will hold up. But I'm sure you'll find one in my arsenal in the next year. I'm running the lefty JX without MC and love it, but would sure like to try the MC for a day or two.