Second time in LJ 11/2....Success!??? - Kayak Fishing Adventures on Big Water’s Edge

wrxkid · 11-03-2014, 08:17 PM

Hold on to your yaks, here is my first report.

Ok, not really success. Got kinda skunkedzilla'd

This was only my second time going to LJ and it's been 4 years. Last time, entry was cake. This time we were met by 2-4ft waves

. Being an avid surfer, I knew timing was key. But in the end, the entry wasn't as bad as I thought. Kind of a rush.

Swells were 70,000 ft at 13s. well, it felt like that. But actually more around 4ft at 14s. Weather laid down towards the late morning.

We tried to make bait for an hour or so before half my group (2 guys) went in because of sea sickness. I stayed out with another buddy and we were successful on making bait! Caught 1 greenie and 6 PMacs. Bigger size for sure. They were deeper too (~40ft). I figured this was half the battle in LJ. If you can make bait, you are that much closer.

Unfortunately, my noobism did more for the big dogs out there than it did for me. Ended up feeding those suckers the fattie macs.

All in all, a great day just to be out pedaling around with some beautiful views. so I think that was a successful day. Better than work!

BTW, I am selling my rig and getting a Hobie. Looks like the standard out there in LJ.

fishnfoool · 11-03-2014, 08:49 PM

good choice, that is what i did.

addicted2sp33d · 11-03-2014, 09:54 PM

You are a brave man going out in 4-foot swells.

I get uncomfortable when the horizon can disappear completely behind a swell.

sandydiego · 11-04-2014, 08:17 AM

nice photos. Hobie? You will like coming to the darkside......

Cheers

Steve

Racksticker · 11-04-2014, 09:03 AM

Did you find your Malibu Kayak to be slow to get around or unstable or ?

I also have a Malibu X-Factor, 14', set up virtually the same as yours. In the bay it appears slow, but stable. I know I will be heading out to LJ for the 1st time next season.

Siebler · 11-04-2014, 09:21 AM

Just FYI by the looks of your bait tank you caught bunch of Greenies (Pacific Macs) and 1 Spanish Mac

Its been an epic year and I have only been out there 1 time with 2 calicos to show. Way to get out there- the fish are still around, youve got time for another trip!

wrxkid · 11-04-2014, 10:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Racksticker

Did you find your Malibu Kayak to be slow to get around or unstable or ?

I also have a Malibu X-Factor, 14', set up virtually the same as yours. In the bay it appears slow, but stable. I know I will be heading out to LJ for the 1st time next season.

I love my Malibu. I also have a Mini-x. I think they are great hulls. Stable as hell on the big stuff. I am just tired of it being 15ft, and it does get cumbersome in the bays. It is fast when it gets up to speed though. Plus, all the cool kids are pedaling and fishing at the same time! That's gotta be an advantage.

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Originally Posted by Siebler

Just FYI by the looks of your bait tank you caught bunch of Greenies (Pacific Macs) and 1 Spanish Mac

Thanks! I wasn't sure what you guys were calling greenies. LOL. NOOB.

captnblood34 · 11-04-2014, 09:11 PM

Don't cave for a Hobie dude! It isn't a standard unless you choose to make it one. Do you buy products based solely on reviews, start a hobby because you think it will give you street cred? I'm a paddler (WS Tarpon 120) and proud of it. IMO peddling a Hobie is equivalent to a trophy deer being taken by a cross bow.... Don't mind me though I'm just a Hobie hater but some that want to be on the water in a yak are limited to this option only. If you're concerned with it, Remember it's the fish earned and lessons learned you post that people are interested in not your ride.

Regards,

J

alanw · 11-05-2014, 12:02 AM

The local Hobie dealer here says something like - There are only two kinds of people: Those that own a Hobie, and those that want to own a Hobie.

Total BS but hey, he's trying to sell them.

They're pretty nice, but have their own problems and are overpriced. Try one out, maybe you like it maybe you don't. Paddle/peddle whatever you like, not whatever the cool kids are doing.

The main thing is to get out there and fish!

easyday · 11-05-2014, 12:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by captnblood34

Don't cave for a Hobie dude! It isn't a standard unless you choose to make it one. Do you buy products based solely on reviews, start a hobby because you think it will give you street cred? I'm a paddler (WS Tarpon 120) and proud of it. IMO peddling a Hobie is equivalent to a trophy deer being taken by a cross bow.... Don't mind me though I'm just a Hobie hater but some that want to be on the water in a yak are limited to this option only. If you're concerned with it, Remember it's the fish earned and lessons learned you post that people are interested in not your ride.

Regards,

J

Not a Hobie hater here, but I do paddle a WS Tarpon 160 and absolutely love it. I think it's going to be a very long time (if ever) until I switch. And I have a major right hand injury that only allows me to grip the paddle with 3 fingers.

ceviche eater · 11-05-2014, 08:29 AM

I tried both before I made the purchase and I went for the X factor.

Bert Vega · 11-05-2014, 03:38 PM

Hobie was the one for me. I looked at several kayaks before making my own mind up. To me the Hobie was worth the extra money. Not saying I have had no issues. But wouldnt change it for any other kayak. The plus out weight the negative for me.

momo fish · 11-05-2014, 05:22 PM

The number of people going to hobie verses leaving hobie is very telling. That alone says enough. For me I wanted to focus on fishing and keep my hands free. Try both and see for yourself like others have said.

jorluivil · 11-05-2014, 06:00 PM

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Originally Posted by alanw

The local Hobie dealer here says something like - There are only two kinds of people: Those that own a Hobie, and those that want to own a Hobie.

Total BS but hey, he's trying to sell them.

And what did the local non-Hobie kayak dealer say? I'm sure he said something that would help him make a sale.

They're pretty nice, but have their own problems and are overpriced.

You're basing this on what? The fact that you couldn't afford one, refused to spend the money on one or because you'd rather paddle than pedal?

Is a Bugatti Veyron expensive? Of course it is............if you can't afford it.

Try one out, maybe you like it maybe you don't. Paddle/peddle whatever you like, not whatever the cool kids are doing.

I agree with you here. I started looking at the PA14 at least 8 months before I finally picked one up but I didn't buy one because all of the cool kids were doing it, I bought it because I could afford it and it was perfect for my style of fishing; long hours, comfortable seating and lots of space.

The main thing is to get out there and fish!

wrxkid · 11-05-2014, 07:01 PM

You guys are funny. Didn't know I started something so fiercely debated. My buddy is pretty hardcore. MINI X, don't care!

jorluivil · 11-05-2014, 07:02 PM

I know someone that went hoopnetting in a Mini X

his name rhymes with Roby

11-03-2014, 08:17 PM	#1
wrxkid Junior Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 6	Second time in LJ 11/2....Success!??? Hold on to your yaks, here is my first report. Ok, not really success. Got kinda skunkedzilla'd This was only my second time going to LJ and it's been 4 years. Last time, entry was cake. This time we were met by 2-4ft waves. Being an avid surfer, I knew timing was key. But in the end, the entry wasn't as bad as I thought. Kind of a rush. Swells were 70,000 ft at 13s. well, it felt like that. But actually more around 4ft at 14s. Weather laid down towards the late morning. We tried to make bait for an hour or so before half my group (2 guys) went in because of sea sickness. I stayed out with another buddy and we were successful on making bait! Caught 1 greenie and 6 PMacs. Bigger size for sure. They were deeper too (~40ft). I figured this was half the battle in LJ. If you can make bait, you are that much closer. Unfortunately, my noobism did more for the big dogs out there than it did for me. Ended up feeding those suckers the fattie macs. All in all, a great day just to be out pedaling around with some beautiful views. so I think that was a successful day. Better than work! BTW, I am selling my rig and getting a Hobie. Looks like the standard out there in LJ.

11-04-2014, 09:21 AM	#6
Siebler Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Richland Oregon Posts: 1,547	Just FYI by the looks of your bait tank you caught bunch of Greenies (Pacific Macs) and 1 Spanish Mac Its been an epic year and I have only been out there 1 time with 2 calicos to show. Way to get out there- the fish are still around, youve got time for another trip! __________________ CJ Siebler

11-05-2014, 12:02 AM	#9
alanw Made in U.S.A. Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Dana Point Posts: 1,625	The local Hobie dealer here says something like - There are only two kinds of people: Those that own a Hobie, and those that want to own a Hobie. Total BS but hey, he's trying to sell them. They're pretty nice, but have their own problems and are overpriced. Try one out, maybe you like it maybe you don't. Paddle/peddle whatever you like, not whatever the cool kids are doing. The main thing is to get out there and fish! __________________ Hobie PA 14 ¸.·´¯`·.´¯`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸><(((º> Jackson Kraken ¸.·´¯`·.¸.·´¯`·.´¯`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸><(((º> Malibu X-Factor ¸.·´¯`·.´¯`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸><(((º> Malibu Stealth-12 ¸.·´¯`·.´¯`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸><(((º> Its not a spelling B its a fishing B ~yakjoe

11-05-2014, 07:02 PM	#16
jorluivil Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 6,856	I know someone that went hoopnetting in a Mini X his name rhymes with Roby __________________ www.facebook.com/Teamsewer

11-03-2014, 08:49 PM	#2
fishnfoool Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: Long beach Posts: 303	good choice, that is what i did.

11-03-2014, 09:54 PM	#3
addicted2sp33d Here fishy fishy fishy... Join Date: May 2011 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 774	You are a brave man going out in 4-foot swells. I get uncomfortable when the horizon can disappear completely behind a swell.

11-04-2014, 08:17 AM	#4
sandydiego Rum Pirate Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Wilds of Mira Mesa Posts: 388	nice photos. Hobie? You will like coming to the darkside...... Cheers Steve

11-04-2014, 09:03 AM	#5
Racksticker Junior Join Date: Sep 2014 Posts: 27	Did you find your Malibu Kayak to be slow to get around or unstable or ? I also have a Malibu X-Factor, 14', set up virtually the same as yours. In the bay it appears slow, but stable. I know I will be heading out to LJ for the 1st time next season.

11-04-2014, 09:11 PM	#8
captnblood34 Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Otay Posts: 704	Don't cave for a Hobie dude! It isn't a standard unless you choose to make it one. Do you buy products based solely on reviews, start a hobby because you think it will give you street cred? I'm a paddler (WS Tarpon 120) and proud of it. IMO peddling a Hobie is equivalent to a trophy deer being taken by a cross bow.... Don't mind me though I'm just a Hobie hater but some that want to be on the water in a yak are limited to this option only. If you're concerned with it, Remember it's the fish earned and lessons learned you post that people are interested in not your ride. Regards, J

11-05-2014, 08:29 AM	#11
ceviche eater Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2013 Location: Mission hills Posts: 133	I tried both before I made the purchase and I went for the X factor.

11-05-2014, 03:38 PM	#12
Bert Vega Tail Chaser! Join Date: Dec 2013 Location: Murrieta Posts: 627	Hobie was the one for me. I looked at several kayaks before making my own mind up. To me the Hobie was worth the extra money. Not saying I have had no issues. But wouldnt change it for any other kayak. The plus out weight the negative for me.

11-05-2014, 05:22 PM	#13
momo fish Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: Camarillo Posts: 1,491	The number of people going to hobie verses leaving hobie is very telling. That alone says enough. For me I wanted to focus on fishing and keep my hands free. Try both and see for yourself like others have said.

11-05-2014, 07:01 PM	#15
wrxkid Junior Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 6	You guys are funny. Didn't know I started something so fiercely debated. My buddy is pretty hardcore. MINI X, don't care!