DAIWA STTLD20H - Kayak Fishing Adventures on Big Water’s Edge

Smokeybear · 07-30-2014, 01:13 PM

Hi everyone,
New member here, looking forward to learn a few thing here, I fished from a kayak a few times, mostly rockfish, calico and halibut.
I was thinking to try YT and WSB with a Daiwa SttLD20H reel.

This reel has small spool with capacity of 200 yards of #50 or 260 yards of #40 spectra braid. Drag 13.2lb strike and 22lb max. 6.3:1 gears.
What size braid and top shot should I use?

Smokeybear · 07-31-2014, 01:32 PM

WOW 140 viewers welcoming the new member.
There's a lot of nice and friendly people here, very kind of you!

Hunters Pa · 07-31-2014, 01:37 PM

Go with what you are comfortable using. Don't fish with anything you can't break off while balanced on a kayak. My personal choice would be 40# braid and flouro topshot if you are looking to use braid

Dannowar · 07-31-2014, 01:37 PM

Try the search function.

Smokeybear · 07-31-2014, 01:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Dannowar

Try the search function.

Is that how you welcome someone new to this site?

Smokeybear · 07-31-2014, 01:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Hunters Pa

Go with what you are comfortable using. Don't fish with anything you can't break off while balanced on a kayak. My personal choice would be 40# braid and flouro topshot if you are looking to use braid

How easy was that.
There still good people out there,

Thank you!

Smokeybear · 07-31-2014, 02:20 PM

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=Hunters Pa;201881]Go with what you are comfortable using. Don't fish with anything you can't break off while balanced on a kayak.

This is a very good advise, I know a lot of people are fishing with #65 spectra, what's the best method to break this size braid? I'm a big guy I can break 40 or 50 mono when I'm standing on ground or a large size boat by pulling hard with a wrapped rug on my arm, a kayak is very different because you have no way to hold the kayak from moving when you're pulling, I guess if you can't break the line there's no other solution the using a knife.
Can you break #65 braid setting the reel drag to the max I would think it will slip or it my damage the reel?

chris138 · 07-31-2014, 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Smokeybear

How easy was that.
There still good people out there,

Thank you!

Chill out bro your post has been up for a day! Most people who look at posts don't ever reply, because they are lurkers.

With regard to your question, IMO a 20 is too small. 200yds is great, but after you tie off and break off a few times and lose some of that line, you might be a little short for a big yellow. A lot of guys, myself included, run 65# spec for the kelp. Top shot should not be used for a kelp cutter rig. You should run straight spec to a ~3-4ft flouro leader, prob 30 or 40#. If you have too much flouro, you wont be able to cut through the kelp.

Rod choice for spectra is very crucial. You need a really noodley rod because braid and flouro have no stretch. A big seabass will do huge headshakes and with no elasticity in the line, they come unbuttoned real easily.

If you're not near kelp, you don't really need spectra. Stick w 30 to 50 lb mono.

To Dannowar's point, there are LOTs of threads on BWE pertaining to this subject. Try look brah!

chris138 · 07-31-2014, 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Smokeybear

This is a very good advise, I know a lot of people are fishing with #65 spectra, what's the best method to break this size braid? I'm a big guy I can break 40 or 50 mono when I'm standing on ground or a large size boat by pulling hard with a wrapped rug on my arm, a kayak is very different because you have no way to hold the kayak from moving when you're pulling, I guess if you can't break the line there's no other solution the using a knife.
Can you break #65 braid setting the reel drag to the max I would think it will slip or it my damage the reel?

No way you can break off 65# braid. Your flouro knot will be the first thing to go. Ive even snapped 80lb swivels before the spec snaps.

oneyedeer · 07-31-2014, 03:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Smokeybear

This is a very good advise, I know a lot of people are fishing with #65 spectra, what's the best method to break this size braid? I'm a big guy I can break 40 or 50 mono when I'm standing on ground or a large size boat by pulling hard with a wrapped rug on my arm, a kayak is very different because you have no way to hold the kayak from moving when you're pulling, I guess if you can't break the line there's no other solution the using a knife.
Can you break #65 braid setting the reel drag to the max I would think it will slip or it my damage the reel?

nice pair of pliers does the trick

ful-rac · 07-31-2014, 04:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Smokeybear

WOW 140 viewers welcoming the new member.
There's a lot of nice and friendly people here, very kind of you!

You need to sloooow your roll HOMIE!

You want the people here help you, that's not the attitude to have. Im sure the truly nice people here that want to help you... don't appreciate your sarcasm.

I know I don't....but I'm not nice.

food4less562 · 07-31-2014, 05:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Smokeybear

WOW 140 viewers welcoming the new member.
There's a lot of nice and friendly people here, very kind of you!

Smokeybear · 07-31-2014, 05:58 PM

Chill out? HOMIE? Classic trolls that when someone disagree they show up.
Thanks don't need your attitude. If you don't have anything good to say please stay OUT! Go pick on someone else.

Apex · 07-31-2014, 06:14 PM

Not off to a good start I see

bosshoss · 07-31-2014, 06:14 PM

" What you talking about Willis "

RobFish · 07-31-2014, 06:15 PM

From the top…
-Welcome Mr. Smokey
-have some patience
-relax a bit, as in lighten up. Not being sarcastic. Roll with it. Breathe.
-you asked a question, expect all sorts of answers. Some will be positive, some negative, some funny, some sarcastic, some beneficial, etc.
-20 sized reels are fine. Spooled with 50 braid and a 30/40 flouro topshot, you're going to be fine for most fish out there. Remember that you're on a kayak, not a boat. Line capacity matters when you're on a boat as you need to stand your ground, but on a kayak, tighten the drag a bit, and enjoy the sleigh ride. Mr. fishy has to tow your ass around, and they tire out eventually.
Lots of good answers already posted. The search one was more than valid. Noodley rod too. Kelp cutting. No stretch. These are all great tips.
Welcome to the forum. Now go fish.

food4less562 · 07-31-2014, 06:26 PM

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Originally Posted by bosshoss

" What you talking about Willis "

food4less562 · 07-31-2014, 06:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Smokeybear

Chill out? HOMIE? Classic trolls that when someone disagree they show up.
Thanks don't need your attitude. If you don't have anything good to say please stay OUT! Go pick on someone else.

Smokeybear · 07-31-2014, 06:41 PM

Seriously some of you need to grow up or get a job, how miserable you have to be to mistreat and make fun of someone because he's a newbie, no I don't kiss anyone Arse, but I'm aware of trolls in every forum, most of them are young drunks and pot head losers which they just show up like some online thugs with no respect for others.

All those stupid pics that you guys uploaded tells me how immature you really are. I'm sure there are some intelligent members in here except the trolls posting nothing but stupidity.

chris138 · 07-31-2014, 06:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Smokeybear

Chill out? HOMIE? Classic trolls that when someone disagree they show up.
Thanks don't need your attitude. If you don't have anything good to say please stay OUT! Go pick on someone else.

What?!?!? Who disagreed? I totally answered your question?!? How are Tony and I trolls? You take offense to that, I think your skin might be a little too thin for internet message boards.

You sound like the kind who will fish la jolla two or three times then quit all together. Good luck buddy.

07-30-2014, 01:13 PM	#1
Smokeybear Junior Join Date: Jul 2014 Posts: 20	DAIWA STTLD20H Hi everyone, New member here, looking forward to learn a few thing here, I fished from a kayak a few times, mostly rockfish, calico and halibut. I was thinking to try YT and WSB with a Daiwa SttLD20H reel. This reel has small spool with capacity of 200 yards of #50 or 260 yards of #40 spectra braid. Drag 13.2lb strike and 22lb max. 6.3:1 gears. What size braid and top shot should I use?

07-31-2014, 01:32 PM	#2
Smokeybear Junior Join Date: Jul 2014 Posts: 20	NEWBIES ARE NOT WELCOME? WOW 140 viewers welcoming the new member. There's a lot of nice and friendly people here, very kind of you!

07-31-2014, 06:15 PM	#16
RobFish Massive Member Join Date: May 2011 Location: San Diego Posts: 382	From the top… -Welcome Mr. Smokey -have some patience -relax a bit, as in lighten up. Not being sarcastic. Roll with it. Breathe. -you asked a question, expect all sorts of answers. Some will be positive, some negative, some funny, some sarcastic, some beneficial, etc. -20 sized reels are fine. Spooled with 50 braid and a 30/40 flouro topshot, you're going to be fine for most fish out there. Remember that you're on a kayak, not a boat. Line capacity matters when you're on a boat as you need to stand your ground, but on a kayak, tighten the drag a bit, and enjoy the sleigh ride. Mr. fishy has to tow your ass around, and they tire out eventually. Lots of good answers already posted. The search one was more than valid. Noodley rod too. Kelp cutting. No stretch. These are all great tips. Welcome to the forum. Now go fish. __________________

07-31-2014, 01:37 PM	#3
Hunters Pa Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Fullerton Posts: 1,360	Go with what you are comfortable using. Don't fish with anything you can't break off while balanced on a kayak. My personal choice would be 40# braid and flouro topshot if you are looking to use braid

07-31-2014, 01:37 PM	#4
Dannowar Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Posts: 1,823	Try the search function. __________________ "Beware the lollipop of mediocrity; lick it once and you’ll suck forever." — Brian Wilson

07-31-2014, 05:58 PM	#13
Smokeybear Junior Join Date: Jul 2014 Posts: 20	Chill out? HOMIE? Classic trolls that when someone disagree they show up. Thanks don't need your attitude. If you don't have anything good to say please stay OUT! Go pick on someone else.

07-31-2014, 06:14 PM	#14
Apex Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: Riverside Posts: 130	Not off to a good start I see

07-31-2014, 06:14 PM	#15
bosshoss Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Santee Posts: 197	" What you talking about Willis "

07-31-2014, 06:41 PM	#19
Smokeybear Junior Join Date: Jul 2014 Posts: 20	Seriously some of you need to grow up or get a job, how miserable you have to be to mistreat and make fun of someone because he's a newbie, no I don't kiss anyone Arse, but I'm aware of trolls in every forum, most of them are young drunks and pot head losers which they just show up like some online thugs with no respect for others. All those stupid pics that you guys uploaded tells me how immature you really are. I'm sure there are some intelligent members in here except the trolls posting nothing but stupidity.