Tis the Season: Remix - Page 4 - Kayak Fishing Adventures on Big Water’s Edge

Dannowar · 04-30-2014, 09:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by makobob

Hope to see you Saturday fishing for our HERO'S on the WATER.

If my schedule permits I would love to Bob

dorado50 · 04-30-2014, 09:37 PM

I do know where your coming!. Believe me I know exactly what's going on here! I would /could post about the same things you have said but.........

I think your opinion is valid

The OP is a newer guy and very stoked(nothing wrong with that at all) but perhaps "over coached".

AirborneYak · 04-30-2014, 09:39 PM

I think this belongs here.

momo fish · 04-30-2014, 09:41 PM

So going to LJ next weekend, want to show me around and share some tips as I'm new to that area?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dannowar

Which is perfectly fine. Until you post about it multiple times and try and tell the rest of us that "they're out there"

My point is not being decoded. I'm not insulting the guide service or anyone paying to be guided.

I'm not posting anymore. I'm going fishing

jorluivil · 04-30-2014, 09:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dannowar

Which is perfectly fine. Until you post about it multiple times and try and tell the rest of us that "they're out there"

My point is not being decoded. I'm not insulting the guide service or anyone paying to be guided.

I'm not posting anymore. I'm going fishing

Quote:

Originally Posted by momo fish

So going to LJ next weekend, want to show me around and share some tips as I'm new to that area?

Newbie here

What's LJ stand for? Is that a secret fishing spot? Never been there before......can I join you guys next week

momo fish · 04-30-2014, 11:31 PM

Was the landing that hard? Lol

Quote:

Originally Posted by jorluivil

Newbie here

What's LJ stand for? Is that a secret fishing spot? Never been there before......can I join you guys next week

kluts · 05-01-2014, 05:29 AM

Obviously guides dont care when you post about the bite,why should they?it just makes them more money.If you`ve fished La Jolla 5 times and watched others catch fish,the answers are right there in front of you,isnt that how you got that yellow?no? a guided fish also? La Jolla is one place you wont need a guide,you wont get lost,stay with the herd, Me?I wont need a guide dog unless im blind.So unless your afraid your gonna get lost or are blind,leave the guide dog at home and keep your eyes and ears open and save your money

GR6RR · 05-01-2014, 10:40 AM

Let's put all this to rest and go.....

I myself, am sorry for instigating the subject.

jsunmkly · 05-01-2014, 10:44 AM

that bear is a cheater!
he got claws and massive teeth!

chxh8me · 05-01-2014, 10:52 AM

that bear probably learned how to do that from its mother. no fair.

SOUTHBAYFISHKILLA · 05-01-2014, 10:55 AM

Can you pass on the info for the guide I would love to plan a trip soon

dpasinli · 05-01-2014, 11:05 AM

Big Dicks are a Swingin! classic. WTG Tanner great catch!

William Novotny · 05-01-2014, 11:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GR6RR

Let's put all this to rest and go.....

I myself, am sorry for instigating the subject.

is that a fucking zombie salmon? Terrifying

Sully1 · 05-01-2014, 01:15 PM

We're talking about different forms of learning, self-directed "do it yourself" and externally directed "classroom, seminar, lecture, professor, guide, or sensei". I am not sure that even a purist has only used one or the other. Neither form of learning is "bad" or better than the other, but finding that balance between the two, for oneself, is a personnel decision and even a life's quest, and hopefully leads you to fish and happiness. I find respecting other's decisions and approaches, whether or not I agree with them, promotes greater understanding of others and even self-affirmation. I think we would all agree that it would be nice to get a piece of the action the next time the fish are biting.ffice

ffice" />>>

makobob · 05-01-2014, 01:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by William Novotny

is that a fucking zombie salmon? Terrifying

NO, he is probabally all spawned out, see how good you look after you spawn!!!!! Will, when we going to get together to FISH BAJA. Your daughter is almost old enough to really enjoy it, maybe in the spring with another family?

William Novotny · 05-01-2014, 03:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by makobob

NO, he is probabally all spawned out, see how good you look after you spawn!!!!! Will, when we going to get together to FISH BAJA. Your daughter is almost old enough to really enjoy it, maybe in the spring with another family?

Gawd I hope that's not howi look after i spawn. I'm shooting for August. I'm working on more reliable transportation at the moment. The Explorer gets me around Ok but I wouldn't trust getting a baja trip out of her.

William Novotny · 05-01-2014, 03:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sully1

We're talking about different forms of learning, self-directed "do it yourself" and externally directed "classroom, seminar, lecture, professor, guide, or sensei". I am not sure that even a purist has only used one or the other. Neither form of learning is "bad" or better than the other, but finding that balance between the two, for oneself, is a personnel decision and even a life's quest, and hopefully leads you to fish and happiness. I find respecting other's decisions and approaches, whether or not I agree with them, promotes greater understanding of others and even self-affirmation. I think we would all agree that it would be nice to get a piece of the action the next time the fish are biting.ffice

ffice" />>>

That was very eloquently put.

chris138 · 05-01-2014, 04:18 PM

There are a couple of types of reports on this forum...

1. Reports of what people fished, where, what the conditions were like, lessons learned etc. These posts are helpful and interesting and allow people to figure things out on your own or with friends.

2. Advertisements for darkhorse, seasamurai, capt wade etc. You cannot reveal good intel in these posts for the sake of not hurting the aforementioned guide's business. That's fine, but the post is essentially just fish porn.

This report falls into the latter category. Reports generated by Josh and Wade themselves tend to fall into the former. I believe there is room for both types of post here, but just don't claim it so hard and ensure that credit is given where it is due.

OP said himself that Mr. Pruitt encouraged him to go find fish for himself... the idea being that maybe it would be more rewarding. I think that was the point Dannowar was trying to make. I've never had the pleasure of a trip with darkhorse, but i have lurked on him many times OTW!

That's a nice cbass and congratulations! Now go do it again and silence the naysayers!

driftwood · 05-01-2014, 04:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dannowar

Which is perfectly fine. Until you post about it multiple times and try and tell the rest of us that "they're out there"

My point is not being decoded. I'm not insulting the guide service or anyone paying to be guided.

I'm not posting anymore. I'm going fishing

Guide or no guide I say bring it! No matter how you slice it, a picture of a big White Sea Bass sure does motivate us to go fishing.

Whether "they're out there" or not. I'm there tomorrow....Wind warning is gone.

Aaron&Julie · 05-02-2014, 03:42 AM

We can see both sides to this debate...Julie and I are so old-school we started out on the old Indian rafts used over a hundred years ago at the launch in La Jolla.
The new generation may look at our setups and get confused by it all.

Q: What's that white 5 gallon bucket used for?
A: To keep our bait alive all day.

Q: Where are your pedals and Mirage drive?
A: We use the backup system, aka paddles, which get us from here to there.

Q: Where's your fish finder located?
A: We enjoy the hunt without one, we hit the locations we recall over the last nearly 10 years, watch the birds, look for boils, baitballs, or even groups of fishermen that may be on a good bite. No fish caught once in awhile is alright by us, it makes the days you score much more rewarding.

To each their own. We're closer to the frame of mind of Dannowar, when you start doing this sport from the bottom up, there's a certain satisfaction that individuals who paid their way up to the top of the learning curve won't understand, trial-trial-trial and error-error-error. But, when you finally get the hang of it, through trials and tribulations there's that certain extra feeling of reward, that you did all on your own, and it goes deep into the mind and soul.

Now, don't get us wrong, in our roots we did receive emails and messages from a few guys that certainly helped. It's just we never became a barnacle to the more experienced and successful fishing 'yakers by following them everywhere they went to mooch off of their success. Now, of course if you spot a bendo, you'd be stupid not to circle that area hoping to score too, as long as you give the person with a fish plenty of room to land his prize. We've had barnacles over the years, and we've had idiots come within 15-20 feet of us, when we're clearly fighting the right kind.

But we do have much more respect for the person that's willing to rough it, so to speak, learning until they get it down, and put in the time necessary to get there, over those that want to score right away and learn all the tricks they can through their pocketbook. We don't blame them, it's just that sometimes while learning the speedy process, they might also miss out on the guides etiquette rules, focusing more on the "how to" and "where are they at" lessons.

05-01-2014, 05:29 AM	#67
kluts Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 33	guides Obviously guides dont care when you post about the bite,why should they?it just makes them more money.If you`ve fished La Jolla 5 times and watched others catch fish,the answers are right there in front of you,isnt that how you got that yellow?no? a guided fish also? La Jolla is one place you wont need a guide,you wont get lost,stay with the herd, Me?I wont need a guide dog unless im blind.So unless your afraid your gonna get lost or are blind,leave the guide dog at home and keep your eyes and ears open and save your money

05-01-2014, 10:40 AM	#68
GR6RR Lucky Fisher Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: too far inland Posts: 366	Let's put all this to rest and go..... I myself, am sorry for instigating the subject. __________________

05-01-2014, 10:44 AM	#69
jsunmkly Jason Join Date: Apr 2014 Location: CA Posts: 67	that bear is a cheater! he got claws and massive teeth! __________________ Malibu

05-01-2014, 10:55 AM	#71
SOUTHBAYFISHKILLA Prowler 15 Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: Gardena, Ca Posts: 45	Guide? Can you pass on the info for the guide I would love to plan a trip soon

05-01-2014, 01:15 PM	#74
Sully1 Member Join Date: May 2012 Location: The Beach Posts: 290	We're talking about different forms of learning, self-directed "do it yourself" and externally directed "classroom, seminar, lecture, professor, guide, or sensei". I am not sure that even a purist has only used one or the other. Neither form of learning is "bad" or better than the other, but finding that balance between the two, for oneself, is a personnel decision and even a life's quest, and hopefully leads you to fish and happiness. I find respecting other's decisions and approaches, whether or not I agree with them, promotes greater understanding of others and even self-affirmation. I think we would all agree that it would be nice to get a piece of the action the next time the fish are biting.fficeffice" />>> __________________

04-30-2014, 09:37 PM	#62
dorado50 Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: La Jolla Shores Posts: 1,626	I do know where your coming!. Believe me I know exactly what's going on here! I would /could post about the same things you have said but......... I think your opinion is valid The OP is a newer guy and very stoked(nothing wrong with that at all) but perhaps "over coached".

04-30-2014, 09:39 PM	#63
AirborneYak Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: Long Beach Posts: 366	I think this belongs here.

05-01-2014, 10:52 AM	#70
chxh8me Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: Thousand Oaks Posts: 182	that bear probably learned how to do that from its mother. no fair.

05-01-2014, 11:05 AM	#72
dpasinli Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: San Clemente Posts: 118	Big Dicks are a Swingin! classic. WTG Tanner great catch!

05-01-2014, 04:18 PM	#78
chris138 donkey roper Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Pacific Beach Posts: 968	There are a couple of types of reports on this forum... 1. Reports of what people fished, where, what the conditions were like, lessons learned etc. These posts are helpful and interesting and allow people to figure things out on your own or with friends. 2. Advertisements for darkhorse, seasamurai, capt wade etc. You cannot reveal good intel in these posts for the sake of not hurting the aforementioned guide's business. That's fine, but the post is essentially just fish porn. This report falls into the latter category. Reports generated by Josh and Wade themselves tend to fall into the former. I believe there is room for both types of post here, but just don't claim it so hard and ensure that credit is given where it is due. OP said himself that Mr. Pruitt encouraged him to go find fish for himself... the idea being that maybe it would be more rewarding. I think that was the point Dannowar was trying to make. I've never had the pleasure of a trip with darkhorse, but i have lurked on him many times OTW! That's a nice cbass and congratulations! Now go do it again and silence the naysayers!

05-02-2014, 03:42 AM	#80
Aaron&Julie Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Spring Valley Posts: 1,400	We can see both sides to this debate...Julie and I are so old-school we started out on the old Indian rafts used over a hundred years ago at the launch in La Jolla. The new generation may look at our setups and get confused by it all. Q: What's that white 5 gallon bucket used for? A: To keep our bait alive all day. Q: Where are your pedals and Mirage drive? A: We use the backup system, aka paddles, which get us from here to there. Q: Where's your fish finder located? A: We enjoy the hunt without one, we hit the locations we recall over the last nearly 10 years, watch the birds, look for boils, baitballs, or even groups of fishermen that may be on a good bite. No fish caught once in awhile is alright by us, it makes the days you score much more rewarding. To each their own. We're closer to the frame of mind of Dannowar, when you start doing this sport from the bottom up, there's a certain satisfaction that individuals who paid their way up to the top of the learning curve won't understand, trial-trial-trial and error-error-error. But, when you finally get the hang of it, through trials and tribulations there's that certain extra feeling of reward, that you did all on your own, and it goes deep into the mind and soul. Now, don't get us wrong, in our roots we did receive emails and messages from a few guys that certainly helped. It's just we never became a barnacle to the more experienced and successful fishing 'yakers by following them everywhere they went to mooch off of their success. Now, of course if you spot a bendo, you'd be stupid not to circle that area hoping to score too, as long as you give the person with a fish plenty of room to land his prize. We've had barnacles over the years, and we've had idiots come within 15-20 feet of us, when we're clearly fighting the right kind. But we do have much more respect for the person that's willing to rough it, so to speak, learning until they get it down, and put in the time necessary to get there, over those that want to score right away and learn all the tricks they can through their pocketbook. We don't blame them, it's just that sometimes while learning the speedy process, they might also miss out on the guides etiquette rules, focusing more on the "how to" and "where are they at" lessons. __________________ "Never say die"