Anchor - Kayak Fishing Adventures on Big Water’s Edge

Steveo · 08-16-2007, 11:49 AM

I'll be yak fishing for my first time ever in my new Hobie Rev tomorrow out of DP. Heading out with a couple of experienced yakkers, Tim of DP Jet Ski & Kayak and Jack V., a fellow yakker I met at the recent surf clinic, so I'm in good hands. My question is this; how important is an anchor from a safety standpoint? If I were going alone (which I would not do at this point, but hypothectically...) is an anchor a must have?
Thanks,
Steve

cabojohn · 08-16-2007, 11:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Steveo

I'll be yak fishing for my first time ever in my new Hobie Rev tomorrow out of DP. Heading out with a couple of experienced yakkers, Tim of DP Jet Ski & Kayak and Jack V., a fellow yakker I met at the recent surf clinic, so I'm in good hands. My question is this; how important is an anchor from a safety standpoint? If I were going alone (which I would not do at this point, but hypothectically...) is an anchor a must have?
Thanks,
Steve

Anchor- meh, you probably don't need one.
Its just extra stuff & weight to carry...less is more.
Good luck

$.02
cabojohn

dorado50 · 08-16-2007, 12:05 PM

Recipe for disaster.

Lakes are fine. Why would you want an anchor in the ocean ? When the swell takes the kayak up, the anchor takes it downnnnnnnnnnn.

madscientist · 08-16-2007, 12:14 PM

Anchors are fine, but largely unnecessary out here. Back east I used to anchor all the time chumming for stripers. A foot or 2 of chain helps hold the anchor and also evens out the swells. For an even softer ride, tie a couple dropper loops in the anchor line about 4ft apart and connect them with 1ft of bungee: acts like a shock absorber. Whatever you do, try not to drag it. Pulling free a snagged anchor is not easy on the yak.

Sherm · 08-16-2007, 12:54 PM

I have an anchor I got in a tournament a while back. You can have it if you want it. I've had it for two years and it is still in the package.

Steveo · 08-16-2007, 01:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Sherm

I have an anchor I got in a tournament a while back. You can have it if you want it. I've had it for two years and it is still in the package.

Thanks for the offer, but from the sound of things, it's looking like I don't need one. That's fine, too...it would just be more stuff to lug around in the hull.

dorado50 · 08-16-2007, 02:27 PM

Glad you decided against the anchor. No matter what gissmo or gadgets you add to the line a swell or boat wake crashing upon you will jar that yak and turn that boat over.

Zed · 08-16-2007, 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Sherm

I have an anchor I got in a tournament a while back. You can have it if you want it. I've had it for two years and it is still in the package.

I still have an anchor I pulled up from the rock off LJC.

No one's claimed it yet.

madscientist · 08-16-2007, 03:03 PM

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Originally Posted by dorado50

Glad you decided against the anchor. No matter what gissmo or gadgets you add to the line a swell or boat wake crashing upon you will jar that yak and turn that boat over.

That is not true, if you anchor from the stern or bow and have the proper amount of line out. A quick release mechanism can also assuage any fears of catastrophe. I had a bungee release/floater mechanism that would immediately release me from the anchor and leave the line floating for later retrieval. Anchors are mostly not needed here, but they are not unsafe if used properly and with a little thought.

silverbullet · 08-17-2007, 11:22 AM

I have one and used it a couple times in the bay...or at humphrey's but never even take it to LJ.

jscott · 08-17-2007, 11:35 AM

Out here I recommend a bungee cord to tie off to kelp with. If wind picks up and you want to remain stationary-- that is your best bet. The bungee acts as a shock absorber on the swells so you don't get sudden movements from the yak. Also-- you can get a drift chute to slow down drifts on windier days as well. Leave the anchor at home unless you are lake fishing.

dorado50 · 08-17-2007, 12:45 PM

kayaks are unstable, very submersible, and have no beam ,therefore, a swell or white cap pushes the kayak one way while your at anchor, and the kayak is positioned in an opposing direction, perhaps by shifting winds, the two opposing forces can cause capsize no matter how much scope you have out.

madscientist · 08-20-2007, 09:54 AM

I guess I'll have to add the "anchor of death" to the "waders of death" on the list of things I'm doing wrong.

fishingsolo · 08-20-2007, 12:56 PM

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Originally Posted by madscientist

I guess I'll have to add the "anchor of death" to the "waders of death" on the list of things I'm doing wrong.

you should go out in your waders, anchor up in LJ and fire up the grill. lol lol I would have no problem taking the advice from Brad. IMO he seems to have a prettty good idea of what he is doing on a yak.

lamb · 08-20-2007, 01:44 PM

I think all points made are very valid ones.

On my boat, I always make sure I have an anchor with 200 yards of rope on board. I think of that anchor as a very important safety item. If the engine dies, I want to make sure I can anchor up ‘till VA arrives. I primarily fish inshore with my skiff.

For some reason, I don’t have an anchor on my kayak.

I don’t think it’s a bad idea to have one. I do see Dave’s point; I remember I almost rolled a couple of times when I anchored by tieing to the kelp, in a bit of a chop though. Kayaks are certainly not as stable as boats, and that’s something that needs to be kept in mind. Bungees and all other things Brad mentioned ought to help with this.

I remember reading that the anchor rope ought to be at least 3 times the depth – the idea is more horizontal the angle, the better.

Here’s some handy general info on anchoring. It is specific to boats so I’m sure all these figures are considerably different for kayaks as they are so light… That's how I understood Dave's points, and I agree with him:

http://www.boatus.com/boattech/anchorin.htm

08-16-2007, 11:49 AM	#1
Steveo Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: La Habra, Orange County Posts: 7	Anchor I'll be yak fishing for my first time ever in my new Hobie Rev tomorrow out of DP. Heading out with a couple of experienced yakkers, Tim of DP Jet Ski & Kayak and Jack V., a fellow yakker I met at the recent surf clinic, so I'm in good hands. My question is this; how important is an anchor from a safety standpoint? If I were going alone (which I would not do at this point, but hypothectically...) is an anchor a must have? Thanks, Steve

08-16-2007, 12:14 PM	#4
madscientist Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 1,906	Anchors are fine, but largely unnecessary out here. Back east I used to anchor all the time chumming for stripers. A foot or 2 of chain helps hold the anchor and also evens out the swells. For an even softer ride, tie a couple dropper loops in the anchor line about 4ft apart and connect them with 1ft of bungee: acts like a shock absorber. Whatever you do, try not to drag it. Pulling free a snagged anchor is not easy on the yak. __________________

08-17-2007, 11:22 AM	#10
silverbullet Crusty Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 125	I have one and used it a couple times in the bay...or at humphrey's but never even take it to LJ. __________________ pastor maximus felis domestica Bobby

08-20-2007, 09:54 AM	#13
madscientist Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 1,906	I guess I'll have to add the "anchor of death" to the "waders of death" on the list of things I'm doing wrong. __________________

08-20-2007, 01:44 PM	#15
lamb Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 2,563	I think all points made are very valid ones. On my boat, I always make sure I have an anchor with 200 yards of rope on board. I think of that anchor as a very important safety item. If the engine dies, I want to make sure I can anchor up ‘till VA arrives. I primarily fish inshore with my skiff. For some reason, I don’t have an anchor on my kayak. I don’t think it’s a bad idea to have one. I do see Dave’s point; I remember I almost rolled a couple of times when I anchored by tieing to the kelp, in a bit of a chop though. Kayaks are certainly not as stable as boats, and that’s something that needs to be kept in mind. Bungees and all other things Brad mentioned ought to help with this. I remember reading that the anchor rope ought to be at least 3 times the depth – the idea is more horizontal the angle, the better. Here’s some handy general info on anchoring. It is specific to boats so I’m sure all these figures are considerably different for kayaks as they are so light… That's how I understood Dave's points, and I agree with him: http://www.boatus.com/boattech/anchorin.htm __________________ [------------------------ <)))< ....b-a-a-a-a

08-16-2007, 12:05 PM	#3
dorado50 Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: La Jolla Shores Posts: 1,626	Recipe for disaster. Lakes are fine. Why would you want an anchor in the ocean ? When the swell takes the kayak up, the anchor takes it downnnnnnnnnnn.

08-16-2007, 12:54 PM	#5
Sherm Senior Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: San Diego Posts: 490	I have an anchor I got in a tournament a while back. You can have it if you want it. I've had it for two years and it is still in the package.

08-16-2007, 02:27 PM	#7
dorado50 Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: La Jolla Shores Posts: 1,626	Glad you decided against the anchor. No matter what gissmo or gadgets you add to the line a swell or boat wake crashing upon you will jar that yak and turn that boat over.

08-17-2007, 11:35 AM	#11
jscott Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 138	Out here I recommend a bungee cord to tie off to kelp with. If wind picks up and you want to remain stationary-- that is your best bet. The bungee acts as a shock absorber on the swells so you don't get sudden movements from the yak. Also-- you can get a drift chute to slow down drifts on windier days as well. Leave the anchor at home unless you are lake fishing.

08-17-2007, 12:45 PM	#12
dorado50 Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: La Jolla Shores Posts: 1,626	kayaks are unstable, very submersible, and have no beam ,therefore, a swell or white cap pushes the kayak one way while your at anchor, and the kayak is positioned in an opposing direction, perhaps by shifting winds, the two opposing forces can cause capsize no matter how much scope you have out.