Surfrider-MPA Fun and Games - Kayak Fishing Adventures on Big Water’s Edge

Rufus · 05-04-2013, 07:39 PM

http://www.utsandiego.com/news/2013/...rotected-area/

Download the app, have fun sending in creative reports. Marginalize their nazi propaganda machine.

"47 half day boats inside Point Loma protected area!!"

Ohhhhhhhh, Chicken Little, the sky is faling!

Surfrider=not your friend

MuddyMike · 05-05-2013, 09:58 AM

"citizen science data" is dangerous. SF will surely leave out the "citizen" part when they promote their agenda.

The only people using the app will be vigilante enviro extremists who would enjoy nothing more than reporting violations to validate their volunteered time.

We know how difficult it is to find an imaginary line in the water without seeing it displayed in relation to where we are on a chartplotter.

I fish just outside the boundaries sometimes, and I'm sure I'd be reported by a vigilante beach walker 10 out of 10 times.

They would be estimating where the boundary is from the shoreline. With the human factor of interpreting gray areas in our favor, and an eco-extremist mindset, the individual could probably convince themselves that the boundary is another quarter mile out... but this has no bearing if they are not honest individuals with an agenda.

Rufus' idea is a good one, only a more subtle approach would make it more difficult to detect. Skewing the data isn't as important as proving the data can easily be skewed when they try to use it.

easyday · 05-05-2013, 12:14 PM

I cant find the app

tacmik · 05-05-2013, 04:05 PM

Look! They want to bring the school kids back. Maybe this time they will catch the fisherman who was blowing up the coral reefs.

Nicko · 05-06-2013, 09:29 AM

Maybe we should to go within the MPA's when we clean our catch.
That way we would be completely legal and help the Do Gooders to have something to do. Sooner or later they would be ignored completely!

05-04-2013, 07:39 PM	#1
Rufus Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Ocean Beach Posts: 90	Surfrider-MPA Fun and Games http://www.utsandiego.com/news/2013/...rotected-area/ Download the app, have fun sending in creative reports. Marginalize their nazi propaganda machine. "47 half day boats inside Point Loma protected area!!" Ohhhhhhhh, Chicken Little, the sky is faling! Surfrider=not your friend

05-05-2013, 12:14 PM	#3
easyday Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: Oceanside Posts: 1,470	I cant find the app __________________

05-05-2013, 04:05 PM	#4
tacmik Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: East County Posts: 914	Look! They want to bring the school kids back. Maybe this time they will catch the fisherman who was blowing up the coral reefs. __________________

05-05-2013, 09:58 AM	#2
MuddyMike Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Temecula, CA Posts: 111	"citizen science data" is dangerous. SF will surely leave out the "citizen" part when they promote their agenda. The only people using the app will be vigilante enviro extremists who would enjoy nothing more than reporting violations to validate their volunteered time. We know how difficult it is to find an imaginary line in the water without seeing it displayed in relation to where we are on a chartplotter. I fish just outside the boundaries sometimes, and I'm sure I'd be reported by a vigilante beach walker 10 out of 10 times. They would be estimating where the boundary is from the shoreline. With the human factor of interpreting gray areas in our favor, and an eco-extremist mindset, the individual could probably convince themselves that the boundary is another quarter mile out... but this has no bearing if they are not honest individuals with an agenda. Rufus' idea is a good one, only a more subtle approach would make it more difficult to detect. Skewing the data isn't as important as proving the data can easily be skewed when they try to use it.

05-06-2013, 09:29 AM	#5
Nicko Junior Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 24	Maybe we should to go within the MPA's when we clean our catch. That way we would be completely legal and help the Do Gooders to have something to do. Sooner or later they would be ignored completely!