Catching Bait Locations - Kayak Fishing Adventures on Big Water’s Edge

Guyak · 05-21-2007, 09:24 PM

Hello All,
After throwing plastics all last year, I ponied up and got the Kayatank and I am ready to go for the big boys. I have heard people mention catching bait beyond the pier. I am assuming Scripps?? Where abouts up there? Are their other semi-reliable spots?

Also, any preference on the type or size of the Sabiki?

Thanks for your help. I look forward to getting something with some serious size

Dan · 05-21-2007, 09:58 PM

Scripps pier is correct. You can get a jump start on the bait in the dark. The baits are attracted to the night lights and the structure. Although this time of year, greylight comes pretty early, and bait is plentiful right at the kelp edge inside the point.

I like the owner sabikis with 4 hooks and 20# test...I just swapped out the one I had tied up for 6 months...that's like 50 years old in sabiki years.

lamb · 05-21-2007, 10:35 PM

I don't think it matters that much - all sabikis seem to work.

Required reading material by Andy Stand Up and Say Iceman: http://thelog.com/news/newsview.asp?c=213114

tptrench · 05-22-2007, 09:26 AM

I have had really good luck with #8 sabikis from Sport Chalet. They are about $4.80 and come with 6 "flies". Good luck!

madscientist · 05-22-2007, 09:48 AM

I'm a big fan of #6 cheapo's off of ebay. $1 each, toss when beat up. Throw a jig on as the sinker and you'll be surprised what else you catch.

Corey · 05-22-2007, 10:35 AM

Another cheap and good option are the Ahi brand sabikis. They are somewhere around $2 each at OEX and seem to be of better quality than the other cheapies I've tried.

yellowtail55 · 05-22-2007, 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Dan

I just swapped out the one I had tied up for 6 months...that's like 50 years old in sabiki years.

That would be like 1000 years old for one of my sabiki's. I've never had one last longer than 2 or 3 trips.

Handymansd · 05-22-2007, 01:58 PM

I concur with Corey, the Ahi brand have smaller barbs so it is a little easier to get the bait off the hook, it usually falls in the kayak as I release the line tension, and they are reasonably priced. I also prefer the larger line sizes; I use the 30/20 speckled shrimp with a squid tip with devastating results.

Now... if I can only do as well with the real fish!

BT · 05-22-2007, 07:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Handymansd

Now... if I can only do as well with the real fish!

I hear that Handymansd.....I slay bait too! I wonder if I made a sabiki hook out of 4 Salas 6x jrs and 40 lb. mono, maybe I could catch a

?

Guyak · 05-22-2007, 08:40 PM

Thank you to everyone. Lamb I read the article and caught most of Andy's bait catching seminar at the Fred Hall Show. That's where I went to buy the "standard" bait tank and ended up throwing down for the Kayatank.

I will be heading out Sunday bright and early for my first try at something large. Largest fish to date on my yak is a calico around 5lbs.

Guyak · 05-22-2007, 08:45 PM

While I am at it, any preference on type of braided line and recommended line test? It's very obvious that braid is a necessity from a kayak in kelp.

Thanks again

Corey · 05-22-2007, 11:07 PM

I use 65# powerpro. 65 is a bit easier on the hands (less likely to cut you) than 50# and gives a bit more insurance against abrasion, etc.

BT · 05-23-2007, 06:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Guyak

While I am at it, any preference on type of braided line and recommended line test? It's very obvious that braid is a necessity from a kayak in kelp.

Thanks again

When I first started fishing La Jolla (just recently) it seemed most of the guys around here recommended 65 lb braid and a 40 lb top shot. That is what I went with.

There are some guys who use just 30 - 40 lb mono too and say it works fine for them. I guess it is just preference.

I thought I would have a hard time with the braided line because I was not experienced with conventional reels to begin with, then throw in the braided line (which is supposed to birds nest easier) on top and I thought I was going to run into a nightmare! I tired both and actually liked the braided set up better. It is all preference if you ask me

Just my rookie 2 cents!

nmbrinkman · 05-23-2007, 03:56 PM

If your fishing live bait, "birds nests" should be an issue. It's on casting setups that most find it to be a pain. Look at some of BWE's consistent yakers and you'll see 4 or 5 (or 6 in Brads case

) different setups. One rod for an iron, one for a deep mac, one for a flyline and/or to pitch a bait, and maybe a yo you iron set up. Different line class, different lengths and actions of rods etc.

Guyak · 05-23-2007, 05:03 PM

Thanks guys. I have a Penn 555 setup and an Okuma ABF65 Baitfeeder spinning reel setup that I will probably run the braid on. I also have two light setups for flipping plastics for calico's etc.

Seems I have to build up the "Mad Money" stash again

h2ofishfo · 05-23-2007, 07:06 PM

fo sure u need atleast 4 setups i use 50#braid cause i feel i can throw the iron a little bit further & w/an avet it actually orbits the mooooon !

ha

05-21-2007, 09:24 PM	#1
Guyak Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Carlsbad, CA Posts: 44	Catching Bait Locations Hello All, After throwing plastics all last year, I ponied up and got the Kayatank and I am ready to go for the big boys. I have heard people mention catching bait beyond the pier. I am assuming Scripps?? Where abouts up there? Are their other semi-reliable spots? Also, any preference on the type or size of the Sabiki? Thanks for your help. I look forward to getting something with some serious size

05-21-2007, 10:35 PM	#3
lamb Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 2,568	I don't think it matters that much - all sabikis seem to work. Required reading material by Andy Stand Up and Say Iceman: http://thelog.com/news/newsview.asp?c=213114 __________________ [------------------------ <)))< ....b-a-a-a-a

05-22-2007, 09:26 AM	#4
tptrench Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: pt loma Posts: 101	sabiki I have had really good luck with #8 sabikis from Sport Chalet. They are about $4.80 and come with 6 "flies". Good luck!

05-22-2007, 09:48 AM	#5
madscientist Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 1,906	I'm a big fan of #6 cheapo's off of ebay. $1 each, toss when beat up. Throw a jig on as the sinker and you'll be surprised what else you catch. __________________

05-22-2007, 11:07 PM	#12
Corey Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: ...waaaay out there Posts: 794	I use 65# powerpro. 65 is a bit easier on the hands (less likely to cut you) than 50# and gives a bit more insurance against abrasion, etc. __________________

05-21-2007, 09:58 PM	#2
Dan Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 1,053	Scripps pier is correct. You can get a jump start on the bait in the dark. The baits are attracted to the night lights and the structure. Although this time of year, greylight comes pretty early, and bait is plentiful right at the kelp edge inside the point. I like the owner sabikis with 4 hooks and 20# test...I just swapped out the one I had tied up for 6 months...that's like 50 years old in sabiki years.

05-22-2007, 10:35 AM	#6
Corey Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: ...waaaay out there Posts: 794	Another cheap and good option are the Ahi brand sabikis. They are somewhere around $2 each at OEX and seem to be of better quality than the other cheapies I've tried. __________________

05-22-2007, 01:58 PM	#8
Handymansd Ancient Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: On The Water Posts: 935	I concur with Corey, the Ahi brand have smaller barbs so it is a little easier to get the bait off the hook, it usually falls in the kayak as I release the line tension, and they are reasonably priced. I also prefer the larger line sizes; I use the 30/20 speckled shrimp with a squid tip with devastating results. Now... if I can only do as well with the real fish! __________________ All men are equal before fish. -Herbert Hoover

05-22-2007, 08:40 PM	#10
Guyak Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Carlsbad, CA Posts: 44	Thank you to everyone. Lamb I read the article and caught most of Andy's bait catching seminar at the Fred Hall Show. That's where I went to buy the "standard" bait tank and ended up throwing down for the Kayatank. I will be heading out Sunday bright and early for my first try at something large. Largest fish to date on my yak is a calico around 5lbs.

05-22-2007, 08:45 PM	#11
Guyak Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Carlsbad, CA Posts: 44	While I am at it, any preference on type of braided line and recommended line test? It's very obvious that braid is a necessity from a kayak in kelp. Thanks again

05-23-2007, 03:56 PM	#14
nmbrinkman Work Sucks! Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: San Diego Posts: 559	If your fishing live bait, "birds nests" should be an issue. It's on casting setups that most find it to be a pain. Look at some of BWE's consistent yakers and you'll see 4 or 5 (or 6 in Brads case ) different setups. One rod for an iron, one for a deep mac, one for a flyline and/or to pitch a bait, and maybe a yo you iron set up. Different line class, different lengths and actions of rods etc.

05-23-2007, 05:03 PM	#15
Guyak Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Carlsbad, CA Posts: 44	Thanks guys. I have a Penn 555 setup and an Okuma ABF65 Baitfeeder spinning reel setup that I will probably run the braid on. I also have two light setups for flipping plastics for calico's etc. Seems I have to build up the "Mad Money" stash again

05-23-2007, 07:06 PM	#16
h2ofishfo Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Santee Posts: 821	fo sure u need atleast 4 setups i use 50#braid cause i feel i can throw the iron a little bit further & w/an avet it actually orbits the mooooon ! ha