Making bait - Kayak Fishing Adventures on Big Water’s Edge

Hard dogg · 09-18-2012, 03:29 PM

Hello everyone. I am new, just bought a Malibu Pa 14 and hit La Jolla for the first time last week.. I'm sure this has been addressed but I am wondering what is the best way to make bait.. Weather it's squid or mackerel.. Also what size mackerel am I hoping for as a prime yellowtail of WSB bait? Any info is appreciated.

GR6RR · 09-18-2012, 03:33 PM

A Malibu PA14?
Sorry I couldn't answer your question.

todd one · 09-18-2012, 03:43 PM

Just go out past the reserve and drop a sabiki rig with a 2oz weight. Bob it up and down or trole it to catch macks.

Get a squid jig for squid. just bounce the weight off the bottom.
Now I can't help you catch a Yellow or WSB. That's all I can catch is bait lol.

Hard dogg · 09-18-2012, 03:49 PM

Thanks for that. What about Mack size.. What is too big... Like a 10 inch mack is that too big or worth a shot to fish... I caught a 10 inch long 1.5 inch wide Mack and I thought it was too big and let it go... I don't have a bait tank yet so can't really save anything, just want to catch and the fish it until I get bait tank.

seriola_killer · 09-18-2012, 03:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Hard dogg

Thanks for that. What about Mack size.. What is too big... Like a 10 inch mack is that too big or worth a shot to fish... I caught a 10 inch long 1.5 inch wide Mack and I thought it was too big and let it go... I don't have a bait tank yet so can't really save anything, just want to catch and the fish it until I get bait tank.

Yellows and Ghosts love Big Macs when they're not eating squid. No greenie is too big, i.m.o.

Necron 99 · 09-18-2012, 04:22 PM

I have only caught bait so far as well. Only been out twice, so I think I'll eventually catch something else. I even caught squid on my sabiki rig. Just need to spend more time on the water.

ful-rac · 09-18-2012, 04:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Necron 99

I have only caught bait so far as well. Only been out twice, so I think I'll eventually catch something else. I even caught squid on my sabiki rig. Just need to spend more time on the water.

There you go, you just answered your own question. You need to put in some serious time to start catching yellowtail and wsb. There is going to be lots of trial and error for you, just like everyone else. I hope your patient......

jorluivil · 09-18-2012, 06:17 PM

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Originally Posted by GR6RR

A Malibu PA14?
Sorry I couldn't answer your question.

I still want to know what a Malibu PA14 is. Must be made by that knotless hook company.

NextBite · 09-18-2012, 06:34 PM

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Originally Posted by jorluivil

I still want to know what a Malibu PA14 is. Must be made by that knotless hook company.

Oh Geogre

bus kid · 09-18-2012, 07:26 PM

The key to making bait in Lj is to dangle at least 50 or 60 security tokens mixed in with a few security keys (2 maybe 3) in a mesh laundry bag over the side of your kayak. Be sure that they are all shinny, the sound and flash will not only draw in macs but squid also. be sure to leash it down tight,as sometimes the macks will swim right up and smash into the bag! I'm sure that the Malibu PA has ample lashing points for this.

Hard dogg · 09-18-2012, 08:03 PM

Okay so I'm really a rookie... Had to go in the garage to confirm the Malibu is a Hobie PA

bus kid · 09-18-2012, 08:38 PM

your tokens should look something like this

bwe security token.jpg

cowboybill · 09-18-2012, 08:43 PM

yuk yuk yuk.... If Malibu made a PA it would weigh a 150 lbs..

If wilderness made a PA... it would be really bitchin...

Just caught my eye...

Just enjoy fishin!!!

Cowboybill

jorluivil · 09-18-2012, 08:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Hard dogg

Okay so I'm really a rookie... Had to go in the garage to confirm the Malibu is a Hobie PA

You bought a PA and thought it was made by Malibu?

dorado50 · 09-18-2012, 08:53 PM

Simple mistake....I bought a Chevy once and thought it was a ford!

todd one · 09-18-2012, 10:16 PM

Ok, Hobie PA. That make sence. You got yourself a nice kayak.

09-19-2012, 01:52 AM

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Originally Posted by seriola_killer

Yellows and Ghosts love Big Macs when they're not eating squid. No greenie is too big, i.m.o.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hard dogg

Okay so I'm really a rookie... Had to go in the garage to confirm the Malibu is a Hobie PA

taggermike · 09-19-2012, 08:52 AM

Catching bait can be like catching any other fish. Some times they're there, some times not, some times they bite, some times not. You can usualy catch bait in LJ with a bit of work though. Like todd one said, right passed the reserve bouys usually produces. A fish finder helps but so does watching for surface and bird activity. Greenies are by far the most popular bait but spanish and even smelt will work. Some times the sardines are thick and they work well too but don't live in kayak sized bait tanks well. If you're after YT and WSB a bigger bait will work fine. Too big is about the size that can't swim circles in your tank becasue they will die. Larger baits usually keep bass,and cuda off, allow you to use larger hooks, and heavier line. Mike

mtnbykr2 · 09-19-2012, 09:37 AM

Way to stay on the subject Mike!!!....

Hard dogg · 09-19-2012, 10:49 AM

Thanks Mike... That's what I was shooting for.

09-18-2012, 03:29 PM	#1
Hard dogg Junior Join Date: Sep 2012 Posts: 12	Making bait Hello everyone. I am new, just bought a Malibu Pa 14 and hit La Jolla for the first time last week.. I'm sure this has been addressed but I am wondering what is the best way to make bait.. Weather it's squid or mackerel.. Also what size mackerel am I hoping for as a prime yellowtail of WSB bait? Any info is appreciated.

09-18-2012, 03:33 PM	#2
GR6RR Lucky Fisher Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: too far inland Posts: 366	A Malibu PA14? Sorry I couldn't answer your question. __________________

09-18-2012, 07:26 PM	#10
bus kid Team Keine Zugehörigkeit Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Way out there Posts: 2,854	The key to making bait in Lj is to dangle at least 50 or 60 security tokens mixed in with a few security keys (2 maybe 3) in a mesh laundry bag over the side of your kayak. Be sure that they are all shinny, the sound and flash will not only draw in macs but squid also. be sure to leash it down tight,as sometimes the macks will swim right up and smash into the bag! I'm sure that the Malibu PA has ample lashing points for this. __________________ Não alimente os trolls------------Don't feed the trolls---------------インタネット荒らしを無視しろ

09-18-2012, 08:38 PM	#12
bus kid Team Keine Zugehörigkeit Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Way out there Posts: 2,854	your tokens should look something like this bwe security token.jpg __________________ Não alimente os trolls------------Don't feed the trolls---------------インタネット荒らしを無視しろ

09-18-2012, 08:43 PM	#13
cowboybill Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Santee, CA Posts: 103	A Malibu PA... yuk yuk yuk.... If Malibu made a PA it would weigh a 150 lbs.. If wilderness made a PA... it would be really bitchin... Just caught my eye... Just enjoy fishin!!! Cowboybill

09-18-2012, 03:43 PM	#3
todd one Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2011 Posts: 364	Just go out past the reserve and drop a sabiki rig with a 2oz weight. Bob it up and down or trole it to catch macks. Get a squid jig for squid. just bounce the weight off the bottom. Now I can't help you catch a Yellow or WSB. That's all I can catch is bait lol.

09-18-2012, 03:49 PM	#4
Hard dogg Junior Join Date: Sep 2012 Posts: 12	Thanks for that. What about Mack size.. What is too big... Like a 10 inch mack is that too big or worth a shot to fish... I caught a 10 inch long 1.5 inch wide Mack and I thought it was too big and let it go... I don't have a bait tank yet so can't really save anything, just want to catch and the fish it until I get bait tank.

09-18-2012, 04:22 PM	#6
Necron 99 Member Join Date: May 2012 Posts: 80	I have only caught bait so far as well. Only been out twice, so I think I'll eventually catch something else. I even caught squid on my sabiki rig. Just need to spend more time on the water.

09-18-2012, 08:03 PM	#11
Hard dogg Junior Join Date: Sep 2012 Posts: 12	Okay so I'm really a rookie... Had to go in the garage to confirm the Malibu is a Hobie PA

09-18-2012, 08:53 PM	#15
dorado50 Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: La Jolla Shores Posts: 1,626	Simple mistake....I bought a Chevy once and thought it was a ford!

09-18-2012, 10:16 PM	#16
todd one Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2011 Posts: 364	Ok, Hobie PA. That make sence. You got yourself a nice kayak.

09-19-2012, 08:52 AM	#18
taggermike Senior Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: Chula Vista Posts: 1,589	Catching bait can be like catching any other fish. Some times they're there, some times not, some times they bite, some times not. You can usualy catch bait in LJ with a bit of work though. Like todd one said, right passed the reserve bouys usually produces. A fish finder helps but so does watching for surface and bird activity. Greenies are by far the most popular bait but spanish and even smelt will work. Some times the sardines are thick and they work well too but don't live in kayak sized bait tanks well. If you're after YT and WSB a bigger bait will work fine. Too big is about the size that can't swim circles in your tank becasue they will die. Larger baits usually keep bass,and cuda off, allow you to use larger hooks, and heavier line. Mike

09-19-2012, 09:37 AM	#19
mtnbykr2 Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: newbury park ca Posts: 2,323	Way to stay on the subject Mike!!!.... __________________

09-19-2012, 10:49 AM	#20
Hard dogg Junior Join Date: Sep 2012 Posts: 12	Thanks Mike... That's what I was shooting for.