Ok.... I'm just confused. - Kayak Fishing Adventures on Big Water’s Edge

Big T · 03-04-2012, 07:28 PM

Went Hooping two nights ago.... then.... somehow fenagled the wife to let me do it yet again....

I know, I'm shocked as well.

Anyway, the first night got me two shorts and a spider crab... THAT crab is really weird! Anyway, it wasn't my night, but at least something was in the hoop when it came up so I was doing SOMETHING right.... I guess.

Anyway... I did some half assed WSB fishing near the boiler rock the first night and was treated to a few big hit and runs.... ran out of bait.

Second night same thing. Same number of bugs and "the" crab.... this time it laughed at me.

Gave up and wanted to go to my hit and run spot with MORE bait.

Kept getting the same hit and runs. Weird. I mean, this fish would strip a good 20 ft of mono off before I could even wake up and hit the clutch.

Each time... nothing there. I even would let it sit for a few seconds after that and it would come back.... rip line off then nothing!!!!

It was driving me nuts.

Anyways... left the kelp skunked and wondering what the hell that fish was?

I guess the only thing I could "think" of would be a Halibut??? I haven't caught many in my day... but remember someone saying that you have to let them suck on it for a while??

WTF?

Sorry for the disappointing report and no pictures... but there was nothing picture worthy anyway.

GregAndrew · 03-04-2012, 08:01 PM

If I were a betting man, I would say Sealion. Very active at night, and they seem to know where the hooks are in the bait.

ful-rac · 03-04-2012, 08:03 PM

If you were using sardines or mackeral.....possibly a seal?

echo1er · 03-04-2012, 08:19 PM

Scuba Chicken!

Big T · 03-04-2012, 08:19 PM

Nah, it was a glow rig set up for WSB using two squid. LOL @ Echo!

buttchaser · 03-04-2012, 08:22 PM

My guess would be calico bass you gotta be quick Or good bye ...

oneyedeer · 03-04-2012, 08:28 PM

those spidecrabs are good eating and you can actually get drunk off them or just cholestrol OD

StinkyMatt · 03-05-2012, 07:45 AM

My vote is for a large rock or a stringer of kelp! With the right wave action these suckers can really pull some line.

William Novotny · 03-05-2012, 08:33 AM

Not a butt, thats for sure. you would feel thump thump head shakes. Not just a run of line. My guess would be a dog is messin with yer chit.

phreshwon · 03-05-2012, 08:37 AM

I dont know quite where you were fishing but it sounds like Humbolt Squid to me.

blitzburgh · 03-05-2012, 08:38 AM

My vote is is lizard.

addicted2sp33d · 03-05-2012, 08:51 AM

^I'll second the kelp... No Joke! I didn't know kelp would do that until I experienced it first hand last year.

I was fishing the Mission Bay channel from a skiff during a serious incoming tide with about 8 to 10-foot swells coming into the bay. Standing inside the skiff, we would lose the horizon when we were in the trough. I was using a lure and instead of cranking, I was letting the incoming current drive the lure down.

Then I felt something hit my lure hard, so I set the hook and started "fighting". There were no headshakes, so I though maybe a big ray? Whatever it was, it was heavy, and wanted to get into the bay really badly.

I had light tackle, so my drag was probably about 15-lbs or so. I'm not sure how long I fought this thing, but it took several decent "runs" into the bay. There was no danger of getting spooled, but it was definitely taking some line.

When I finally got my prize to the boat, to my dismay I had hooked a giant tangle of kelp and some other miscellaneous green/brown stuff. It took some serious time to get untangled! The hooks of my lure were firmly embedded in the mess.

My prize kelp ball.

My friend in the boat was laughing so hard I'm surprised he didn't crap his pants.

For your situation though, I would guess seal. I've had birds take my baits/lures before - they usually get hooked because they are not smart enough to avoid the hook.

William Novotny · 03-05-2012, 09:15 AM

Yeah scuba chickens will run with your bait then get it yanked out of their mouth as soon as you swing it. Then they jump right back on. I don't know just how active cormorants are at night though.

Big T · 03-05-2012, 09:48 AM

Ugh... I am starting to see your points... Bah.

I'm kinda leaning toward the chicken scenario!.... I mean, at least HIS post has photo evidence that they EXIST!!!

I've heard of ducks walking into Subway for bread and sun chips.... but never seen a chicken walk into sport chalet for scuba gear.

Now I know.

William Novotny · 03-05-2012, 10:59 AM

You know what they say.....bs unless theres a pic

fishinkid2010 · 03-07-2012, 02:09 PM

You may never know! if you give me the GPS coords I would be happy to investigate for you.

03-04-2012, 07:28 PM	#1
Big T Member, You Member! Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Lake Forest Posts: 254	Ok.... I'm just confused. Went Hooping two nights ago.... then.... somehow fenagled the wife to let me do it yet again.... I know, I'm shocked as well. Anyway, the first night got me two shorts and a spider crab... THAT crab is really weird! Anyway, it wasn't my night, but at least something was in the hoop when it came up so I was doing SOMETHING right.... I guess. Anyway... I did some half assed WSB fishing near the boiler rock the first night and was treated to a few big hit and runs.... ran out of bait. Second night same thing. Same number of bugs and "the" crab.... this time it laughed at me. Gave up and wanted to go to my hit and run spot with MORE bait. Kept getting the same hit and runs. Weird. I mean, this fish would strip a good 20 ft of mono off before I could even wake up and hit the clutch. Each time... nothing there. I even would let it sit for a few seconds after that and it would come back.... rip line off then nothing!!!! It was driving me nuts. Anyways... left the kelp skunked and wondering what the hell that fish was? I guess the only thing I could "think" of would be a Halibut??? I haven't caught many in my day... but remember someone saying that you have to let them suck on it for a while?? WTF? Sorry for the disappointing report and no pictures... but there was nothing picture worthy anyway.

03-04-2012, 08:03 PM	#3
ful-rac Emperor Join Date: May 2009 Location: Buena Park Posts: 3,649	If you were using sardines or mackeral.....possibly a seal? __________________ There's nothing colder than yesterday's hotdog.

03-05-2012, 08:33 AM	#9
William Novotny The carpetbagger Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: tha newps Posts: 1,474	Not a butt, thats for sure. you would feel thump thump head shakes. Not just a run of line. My guess would be a dog is messin with yer chit. __________________ "The charm of fishing is that it is the pursuit of what is elusive but attainable, a perpetual series of occasions for hope." http://www.badinfluencetattoo.com/gallery.php?artist=21

03-05-2012, 08:38 AM	#11
blitzburgh Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Menifee Posts: 2,509	My vote is is lizard. __________________ ”The beauty of the Second Amendment is that it will not be needed until they try to take it.” ~Thomas Jefferson.........maybe

03-05-2012, 09:15 AM	#13
William Novotny The carpetbagger Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: tha newps Posts: 1,474	Yeah scuba chickens will run with your bait then get it yanked out of their mouth as soon as you swing it. Then they jump right back on. I don't know just how active cormorants are at night though. __________________ "The charm of fishing is that it is the pursuit of what is elusive but attainable, a perpetual series of occasions for hope." http://www.badinfluencetattoo.com/gallery.php?artist=21

03-04-2012, 08:01 PM	#2
GregAndrew Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 2,384	If I were a betting man, I would say Sealion. Very active at night, and they seem to know where the hooks are in the bait.

03-04-2012, 08:19 PM	#4
echo1er Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2011 Posts: 598	Scuba Chicken!

03-04-2012, 08:22 PM	#6
buttchaser Float Tuber Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 243	My guess would be calico bass you gotta be quick Or good bye ...

03-04-2012, 08:28 PM	#7
oneyedeer Senior Member Join Date: May 2011 Location: Orange County, ca Posts: 684	those spidecrabs are good eating and you can actually get drunk off them or just cholestrol OD

03-05-2012, 07:45 AM	#8
StinkyMatt Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Under a bridge Posts: 2,169	My vote is for a large rock or a stringer of kelp! With the right wave action these suckers can really pull some line.

03-05-2012, 08:37 AM	#10
phreshwon PHRESHWON Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: O.C. Posts: 36	I dont know quite where you were fishing but it sounds like Humbolt Squid to me.

03-05-2012, 08:51 AM	#12
addicted2sp33d Here fishy fishy fishy... Join Date: May 2011 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 774	^I'll second the kelp... No Joke! I didn't know kelp would do that until I experienced it first hand last year. I was fishing the Mission Bay channel from a skiff during a serious incoming tide with about 8 to 10-foot swells coming into the bay. Standing inside the skiff, we would lose the horizon when we were in the trough. I was using a lure and instead of cranking, I was letting the incoming current drive the lure down. Then I felt something hit my lure hard, so I set the hook and started "fighting". There were no headshakes, so I though maybe a big ray? Whatever it was, it was heavy, and wanted to get into the bay really badly. I had light tackle, so my drag was probably about 15-lbs or so. I'm not sure how long I fought this thing, but it took several decent "runs" into the bay. There was no danger of getting spooled, but it was definitely taking some line. When I finally got my prize to the boat, to my dismay I had hooked a giant tangle of kelp and some other miscellaneous green/brown stuff. It took some serious time to get untangled! The hooks of my lure were firmly embedded in the mess. My prize kelp ball. My friend in the boat was laughing so hard I'm surprised he didn't crap his pants. For your situation though, I would guess seal. I've had birds take my baits/lures before - they usually get hooked because they are not smart enough to avoid the hook.

03-05-2012, 09:48 AM	#14
Big T Member, You Member! Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Lake Forest Posts: 254	Ugh... I am starting to see your points... Bah. I'm kinda leaning toward the chicken scenario!.... I mean, at least HIS post has photo evidence that they EXIST!!! I've heard of ducks walking into Subway for bread and sun chips.... but never seen a chicken walk into sport chalet for scuba gear. Now I know.

03-05-2012, 10:59 AM	#15
William Novotny The carpetbagger Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: tha newps Posts: 1,474	You know what they say.....bs unless theres a pic __________________ "The charm of fishing is that it is the pursuit of what is elusive but attainable, a perpetual series of occasions for hope." http://www.badinfluencetattoo.com/gallery.php?artist=21

03-07-2012, 02:09 PM	#16
fishinkid2010 Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: La Mesa Posts: 386	You may never know! if you give me the GPS coords I would be happy to investigate for you. __________________ Need a custom rod wrapped? PM me! http://s686.photobucket.com/albums/vv222/fishinkid2010/Sample%20Rod%20Wrapping/?albumview=slideshow