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01-12-2012, 08:33 PM | #61 |
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01-12-2012, 09:04 PM | #62 |
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I've flipped other yaks.......but not my PA (knock on wood)
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01-13-2012, 07:55 AM | #63 |
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I'll put my limited experience out there. I've been doing the backwards thing since I got the Outfitter. I had limited luck getting in with my old Malibu. I saw a video of some guy coming in backwards through some serious waves and a dim bulb went off. Here is the only flip in reverse....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZvaB...6ndLRGmXXpx5CQ Since then, I learned that you give a couple peddles/paddles through said waves and you are golden. You spend some time in the surf zone sometimes, but I think you have better control. This has worked flawlessly at LJ and San O. |
01-13-2012, 08:47 AM | #64 |
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Havent tried this one yet but i heard another way(gonna get wet tho)
is just outside of surf line(sorry wader guys) jump on in, grab onto rear handle or strap and kick on in- a human rudder you might say. Just have gear stowed. Oh ya, first time out at LJ, flipt at landing, one home made sabiki rod donation that came unleashed somehow. Anyone heard of/tried this method before? Tim |
01-13-2012, 12:13 PM | #65 | ||
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Oldie but goodie with a few serious lessons....
The opposite of the above these guys have some serious skills.... Quote:
Never seen it tried in reverse coming in but no doubt it would work. There was a day in Malibu up at County line where I seriously considered trying it, but then the waves broke just right and I paddled and surfed right up on the beach. Quote:
If you had been in bigger surf and a wave caught your yak when you were standing between the yak and the beach it would of driven the yak into you with force, and you could of lost a few ribs or your teeth. It's a mistake everyone makes once, I did and got nailed pretty good one day, but the bottom line is once you are in the water you want the yak between you and the beach, not the other way around. Put the two together and you got real trouble. Say a wave caught your yak wrong that day and it hit you in the head hard enough to knock you out, with no PFD on you could of possibly drowned. Personally I think the backwards thing will only work in small surf. Get anything big enough to make your kayak surf backwards and you are done. It's hard enough to keep a yak straight and your nose up when surfing forwards, much less backwards Jim |
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01-13-2012, 12:26 PM | #66 |
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Some day I will flip my kayak. That said, I have not yet flipped in flat water. I have gotten just detroyed on launches and landings though. I have come to expect this because I launch from less friendly places like South IB, Salt Creek, and Cape Hateras NC. I try to alway have things stowed and to take the surf as an indicator of what I should bring. I wanted to fish the kelp south of Dana years ago and due to high surf brought only 1 rod and a small bag of plastics. I got flipped over backwards and swam in after the yak 3 times befor I made it out. On the landing I just let the kayak wash in and I swam in. I don't worry about style points, getting in safely with all my gear is my goal. I've swam in, gotten off in deeper water and held the bow handle all the way in, backed in, and surfed in. And I practiced all these w/o gear first. I get the feel for each kayak I have and practice righting and remounting. These have worked for me; practice, know your kayak, stow your gear, know your comfort zone, and listen to the little voice in your head. Get experience and expand your abilities. I've seen guys flip thier yaks and have NO idea what to do. It's like they'd never even thought of that posiblity. Don't be "that guy". No surprise is the best surprise. Mike
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01-13-2012, 03:22 PM | #67 | |
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01-13-2012, 07:33 PM | #68 |
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The idea of coming in backwards is so that you can paddle back out if a large swell approaches, not just that you are pointed in that direction. Your momentum paddling out is what will save your bacon. That being said, most fishing kayaks are stern heavy and would be hard to surf or slide backwards in the event of a large wave. Learn how to "slide" and you will not have a problem with surf less than 3 feet pretty quickly. Best time to practice is when you are already wet. My half cent anyway.
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