12-18-2008, 10:51 AM | #1 |
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Line Visibility
http://www.mexfish.com/apgs/rebels/rebels.htm LEADERS AND LINE: Supposedly, the lighter the line you use, the more strikes you will get, right? In practice, we found that using line up to about 25 pound test with Jointed Rebels worked just fine. More than that causes problems with lure action and will cost you hits. However, I am 100 percent convinced that the problem with heavy line is not line visiblity. This is because Neil Kelly, who absolutely hated to waste time tying on new lures, always fished with an ugly, six-inch black plastic coated wire leader with a big, ugly snap at the lure end. This way, Neil could snap on new lures in seconds. In an effort to beat Neil's incredible fish counts, I usually tied on direct, and sometimes I would go down as low as 6-pound line to beat Neil's 25-pound. In all the years we fished togther I NEVER ONCE beat Neil. So much for line visibility. Last edited by FISHIONADO; 12-18-2008 at 10:56 AM. Reason: changed "fish" to "bait" |
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Wow, sounds like Neil can fish. What are these guys fishing for, gator Gar?
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12-18-2008, 02:04 PM | #3 |
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There is no doubt that some lures swim better on heavier, stiffer line. Just ask any of the old sportboat guys about Twisting Wire for fishing the Iron.
Remember that a live bait is very often a more thought out bite by a fish than a Reaction bite like you get with most lures (with the exception of soft plastics). |
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BTW, I've got a silver rebel jointed fast trac lure, all I've caught with it are bonita. Those are just nuisance fish to me, like sand bass. |
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12-19-2008, 08:37 AM | #5 |
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Dave,
That monster in your avatar was caught without a leader, right? Straight spectra?
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I really like trolling my rapalas with spectra, usually with a short flouro leader, because you can see so much action in the rod tip from the swimming lure. I can tell the moment a single piece of grass or kelp gets hooked. |
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I'd be afraid of pulling a hook with straight spectra (and have), but looks like you guys are onto something!
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I switched to straight 65lb braid when throwing my spinner baits. Being a reaction bait I have not noticed a drop in fish caught, and those big spotties don't break off anymore. I have landed over 3lb spotties and sandies over 4lb with it .
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Everyone is talking about what the fish “see”. What about what the fish “feel”?
Don’t you think that a larger diameter line would cause more disturbance in the water that the fish would stay away. Halibuts might shy away from larger line not because they see the line but feel the disturbance in the water of the larger line. And what about your connecting not you are using to connect flouro leader on Spectra line or on your hook, jig or sinker? If it’s a big knot it will cause a different type of aquatic disturbance that might keep the fish away. The difference in line can cause a different disturbance also. When you look closely at flouro it is smooth compared to the coarseness of a breaded line. I am by no means an expert. I use 65lbs spectra with a 25lbs flouro when hunting the big guys. I also use 12 and 15 pound mono for smaller guys in the harbor. These thoughts came to me when reading your posts. What do you think?
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