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06-09-2014, 04:01 PM | #1 |
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06-09-2014, 04:17 PM | #2 |
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Went there twice so far. I got nothing first time. Second time I got flipped but at least I caught this in the kelp on a dropper loop with squid.. Got jacked for a ton of macks by seals and I think twice by fish but couldn't get em on the hook.
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06-09-2014, 04:37 PM | #3 |
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Troll the baits on the outer edge of the kelpline, running perpendicular to the shore. 100-125 feet of water. Don't throw the big 12-15" greenback away. Keep it. Big bait. Big fish. I know elephants eat peanuts, but lions eat deer. You want to keep moving if the current is slow, or slow troll the bait along the outside of the kelp at about 1-2 mph. Very slow pedal/paddle. One thing you have to remember: the chubasco 1/2 day boat wants quantity for all fishermen. So that they come back. If they chased two yellowtail around for 30 people for a half day, people would be pissed off. That's why we're kayak fishermen and not boat fishermen. I can't stress enough about time on the water. Spend full days at a time out there and you WIll get bit. Meet fellow BWE guys and learn all you can. Use search forum to find anything you need. ANYTHING. And last but not least, support your local OEX, after all they are the ones who sponsor this hear post. Good luck man. Tight lines!
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06-09-2014, 04:45 PM | #4 |
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Solid ^^^
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06-09-2014, 05:00 PM | #5 |
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I'll take that as a good sign then that sometimes the area just isn't turned on. I did see some guys out in the open towards the canyon looking like they were bottom fishing I guess for rockfish. When I wasn't trolling a greenback I would mainly just park on top of the kelp and work my lures vertically with different retrieval speeds. Is this productive or would a long cast and swimming the bait back be better?
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06-09-2014, 05:01 PM | #6 |
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You're going to try to read every post in BW history? Good luck to you brother.
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06-09-2014, 05:21 PM | #7 |
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YakDout, thanks for all the info. I was pretty much going back and forth with trying the open water troll for big fish and coming back to the kelp in hopes for bass with artificial bait. I saw a seminar from Kevin Nakada (Sea Samurai) at the Fred Hall show earlier this year and was trying to keep to his yellowtail advice. Trolled the greenback about 100 feet back outside and around the kelp at 2.2-2.7mph. There was a pretty good struggle once. The greenie had some cuts along his body but wasn't dead or bit in half so I don't think it was a seal. Maybe a Barracuda. One thing I can't decide is if adding weight to the line would be a good idea to get the greenie lower in the water column.
But yeah I really love OEX. I got my Hobie from them along with various other things. Couldn't ask for a better deal and I love this yak so much (revo 13). I also have a OK Trident 11 and the off brand Ascend for two of my kids in the lakes. Definitely giving my future business to OEX. |
06-09-2014, 05:23 PM | #8 |
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Yeah I'm pretty bored sometimes at work. Maybe I'll catch something big and tasty after a couple hundred more pages!
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06-09-2014, 05:46 PM | #9 | |
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06-09-2014, 08:37 PM | #10 |
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Eric, Nice to have meet you. I hope to see you out there again.
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06-10-2014, 01:50 AM | #11 |
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Hey Jeff, did you and Mike end up with anything nice at the end of your lines sunday? Great meeting you too. I'll see you on the water again.
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06-10-2014, 09:24 AM | #12 |
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well that's why it's called fishing, not catching! don't be too discouraged!
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06-10-2014, 04:16 PM | #13 |
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I was out there sunday on a 1/2 day boat. It was wide open calicos all day. Barracudas showed up for a bit, and got a few rockfish. I also hooked up on something big most likely a black seabass but didn't land it.
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06-10-2014, 06:21 PM | #14 |
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Well that's good to hear. I just thought it was pretty weird that the other party boat I saw kept moving all over without success. When I was on it a couple weeks earlier the boat caught over 400 calico along with tons of other species. I didn't expect that kind of success by myself on my kayak, but I did think I would at least bring in a few bass. Nice to know that the fish were just biting heavy in a different location and it (hopefully) wasn't just me sucking. What part of the kelp was your party boat working off of? The one boat that I did see catching bass were chumming with anchovies but fishing the smaller shimano waxwings.
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06-11-2014, 12:31 PM | #15 |
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I think that was the boat I was on. My friend was the one using the shimano waxwing, i was using big hammers plastics 5inch most of the day. I probably caught and released like 30. Was that you with 2 other guys in surfboards?
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06-11-2014, 03:25 PM | #16 |
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No I was by myself on a Hobie Revo 13. The boat I was talking about seemed to be private. There were only three guys on it I think and when I was heading in for the day at noon I passed them. They asked if I wanted to fish right behind the boat cause they were getting calico like crazy and they were just leaving themselves. They threw a final net full of anchovies into the water and started to pull away. Right before they left they got a couple more as I was getting closer for a cast. I threw my 5 1/2" halloween colored Big Hammer with red 3/4oz weedless head quite a few times with not a single taker. I mainly just used a steady retrieve but every few casts I would just try a sweep-sink retrieval. Then I threw a chrome and blue surface iron for a couple minutes. Still nada.
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06-11-2014, 04:05 PM | #18 |
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Hmmm.... that's weird, I was using the señorita big hammer with none colored 2oz head also big hammer wasn't weedless. But yeah those 3 guys came to the boat to get some chovies from us. Maybe it just wasn't your day, but fishing was good.
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06-11-2014, 04:34 PM | #19 |
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