Help picking yak #2 - Kayak Fishing Adventures on Big Water’s Edge

Papasledge · 04-06-2012, 08:21 PM

I already have a PA and love it. My wife is now getting interested in kayaking and would like a mirage drive. The second half of the problem is my knees are started to show signs of wear after a day on the PA.

Since I really dont know how often she will actually want to go I would rather let her use the PA. Her time on the water will always be on freshwater and I know she will stay upright on the PA.

With that in mine I would like my next yak to be a paddle type. I alreay asked about the WS 135 ride but after talking to a dealer he said it would handle like the PA launching and coming in from surf. I havnt tried it yet.
He suggested a Tarpon 140. I figure theres nobody better to ask then a bunch of real yak fisherman.

Shes pretty excited about yakking so I need to move on this while I have the chance any help would be great.

Yakin · 04-06-2012, 09:26 PM

I went small and got my wife a mini X and so far is has treated both of us well when she wants to use my PA

04-07-2012, 01:13 AM

The tarpon 140 is A LOT of boat. 14' is huge. How long have you had the PA? Knee problems shouldn't be an issue peddling the mirage drive. Especially on the PA, you can change how you sit to alter the muscle groups in your legs used to peddle. When my quads get tired, I slouch back and begin using my hamstrings combined with pushing off my back to change completely how I push the peddles. I don't know what prior knee problems you have, but a really good stretch routine can help relieve some discomfort.

Ask yourself if you REALLY need 14' of kayak, or even 13.5 with the ride. WS just put out the ride 115, which to me is plenty of boat for fishing anywhere on the west coast. I've been out here with a S12, a Tarpon 120 and now a PA and to be completely honest, the PA is slight overkill. The only reason I got it was because it was a great deal, I'm a taller guy and like to sight cast standing up so stability was key. You're not standing on a tarpon 140. It's just not designed like that.

The bigger the boat the bigger the hull, and surface area. Current, wind, swells and waves will have more impact and you. I haven't looked into it, but if I were a betting man I would bet the Ride 115 is more stable than the T140. Look it over.
Good luck

paintnfish · 04-07-2012, 04:18 AM

From the PA to a 140 and the 140 is huge ???
One word... testdrive

Im sure there will be mornings you look over
at the PA and grab the 140 with out any hesitation.

You should take a close look at the X 13 as well.

Mr. Adventure · 04-07-2012, 06:12 AM

Second on the x13 if you're not a big guy. It handles the surf great

04-07-2012, 07:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by paintnfish

From the PA to a 140 and the 140 is huge ???
One word... testdrive

Im sure there will be mornings you look over
at the PA and grab the 140 with out any hesitation.

You should take a close look at the X 13 as well.

The Tarpon is 4 inches longer and only weights 20lbs less with 1/2 the maximum load weight.

The ride 115 is 11'5" and has the same maximum load as a PA, with similar stability to a PA, better set up for surf, it's wider by 5inches which is great when you need to put hoops on board, has a flat bottom hull and is a more manageable boat due to its size. I'm actually thinking about getting a Ride 115 for when my friends come in from out of town the more I look at it.

The PA is more set up to be a longer boat, with the bow and stern handle bars and the side rails, it becomes a more manageable boat even with the added weight. I prefer moving my PA around over my stealth 12 for so many reasons.

Papasledge · 04-07-2012, 08:10 AM

Drake to you shore launch your PA and how is it coming back in.....

Papasledge · 04-07-2012, 08:14 AM

Thanks for the info on kayaks guys....... only having the PA its hard to know whats a good paddling kayak..... This helps and ill know what to look for when testing

Amish Ed · 04-07-2012, 12:52 PM

Definitely do some test paddling. All the yaks mentioned are very different. Myself, I miss my T140. I'm in a Prowler 15 right now and it's has its perks over the T140. But, it's a wet ride. The T140 paddles nice, tracks nice, plenty stable, has enough inside storage and I really like the track system. The Ride will be slower, but more stable. Try before you buy.

forefrazier · 04-07-2012, 01:11 PM

Why not have a look at the OK Trident Ultra 4.3?

Papasledge · 04-07-2012, 03:27 PM

Oh I will I remember seeing that at sunset OEX the week they got it.....Its alittle more money but no decision made.......going next week to southwind and rent a ride and tarpon then ill move to OEX for the others....The guys at Southwind said the new PA has some pretty cool features........Transducer mount through the scupper flip up seat he was pretty excitied about it......

04-06-2012, 08:21 PM	#1
Papasledge Junior Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 14	Help picking yak #2 I already have a PA and love it. My wife is now getting interested in kayaking and would like a mirage drive. The second half of the problem is my knees are started to show signs of wear after a day on the PA. Since I really dont know how often she will actually want to go I would rather let her use the PA. Her time on the water will always be on freshwater and I know she will stay upright on the PA. With that in mine I would like my next yak to be a paddle type. I alreay asked about the WS 135 ride but after talking to a dealer he said it would handle like the PA launching and coming in from surf. I havnt tried it yet. He suggested a Tarpon 140. I figure theres nobody better to ask then a bunch of real yak fisherman. Shes pretty excited about yakking so I need to move on this while I have the chance any help would be great.

04-07-2012, 12:52 PM	#9
Amish Ed Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Grants Pass, OR Posts: 1,906	Definitely do some test paddling. All the yaks mentioned are very different. Myself, I miss my T140. I'm in a Prowler 15 right now and it's has its perks over the T140. But, it's a wet ride. The T140 paddles nice, tracks nice, plenty stable, has enough inside storage and I really like the track system. The Ride will be slower, but more stable. Try before you buy. __________________ Amish Ed You can't catch it again if it's dead!

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04-06-2012, 09:26 PM	#2
Yakin Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: San Bernardino, CA Posts: 913	I went small and got my wife a mini X and so far is has treated both of us well when she wants to use my PA __________________ Remember There are Many Fish in the Sea MEANS MORE TO EAT!!!

04-07-2012, 01:13 AM	#3
Drake Guest Posts: n/a	The tarpon 140 is A LOT of boat. 14' is huge. How long have you had the PA? Knee problems shouldn't be an issue peddling the mirage drive. Especially on the PA, you can change how you sit to alter the muscle groups in your legs used to peddle. When my quads get tired, I slouch back and begin using my hamstrings combined with pushing off my back to change completely how I push the peddles. I don't know what prior knee problems you have, but a really good stretch routine can help relieve some discomfort. Ask yourself if you REALLY need 14' of kayak, or even 13.5 with the ride. WS just put out the ride 115, which to me is plenty of boat for fishing anywhere on the west coast. I've been out here with a S12, a Tarpon 120 and now a PA and to be completely honest, the PA is slight overkill. The only reason I got it was because it was a great deal, I'm a taller guy and like to sight cast standing up so stability was key. You're not standing on a tarpon 140. It's just not designed like that. The bigger the boat the bigger the hull, and surface area. Current, wind, swells and waves will have more impact and you. I haven't looked into it, but if I were a betting man I would bet the Ride 115 is more stable than the T140. Look it over. Good luck

04-07-2012, 04:18 AM	#4
paintnfish Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Posts: 72	From the PA to a 140 and the 140 is huge ??? One word... testdrive Im sure there will be mornings you look over at the PA and grab the 140 with out any hesitation. You should take a close look at the X 13 as well.

04-07-2012, 06:12 AM	#5
Mr. Adventure Damn Hippy Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Riverside Posts: 311	Second on the x13 if you're not a big guy. It handles the surf great

04-07-2012, 08:10 AM	#7
Papasledge Junior Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 14	Drake to you shore launch your PA and how is it coming back in.....

04-07-2012, 08:14 AM	#8
Papasledge Junior Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 14	Thanks for the info on kayaks guys....... only having the PA its hard to know whats a good paddling kayak..... This helps and ill know what to look for when testing

04-07-2012, 01:11 PM	#10
forefrazier Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: OC Posts: 397	Why not have a look at the OK Trident Ultra 4.3?

04-07-2012, 03:27 PM	#11
Papasledge Junior Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 14	Oh I will I remember seeing that at sunset OEX the week they got it.....Its alittle more money but no decision made.......going next week to southwind and rent a ride and tarpon then ill move to OEX for the others....The guys at Southwind said the new PA has some pretty cool features........Transducer mount through the scupper flip up seat he was pretty excitied about it......