Surfrider MLPA meetings starting Tue 9/23 7PM S.C. - Kayak Fishing Adventures on Big Water’s Edge

forcefed · 09-22-2009, 01:09 AM

Being who they in this area, I'm sure they will have an influence with this "letter".

Surfrider
Explore Maps of Marine Protected Areas with the Surfrider Foundation
September 20, 2009
PRESS RELEASE

Decades of overfishing, coastal development, and pollution have taken a toll on Southern California's ocean environment. To help improve our ocean's health, the State is setting aside protected zones similar to state parks so that marine life can thrive.

This is one of your last chances to give meaningful input on where marine protected areas should be located! Please join Surfrider to learn more about the Marine Life Protection Act and to discuss the proposed maps. After the community forums, will compile all constructive comments into a letter that will be sent to decision makers before the final vote. We need to hear from you!

Agenda:

7:00-7:10--Welcome and brief overview.
7:10-7:20--Summary of Surfrider's outreach efforts over the past year and what we learned from local communities and Surfrider supporters.
7:20-7:40--Overview and discussion of each map.
7:40-8:00--Questions & Answers.

WHEN: Four different forums will be held in the following areas:Orange County, Santa Barbara, Los Angeles and San Diego.All forums will be from 7-8pm.

Sept 23. San Clemente Senior Center: 242 Avenida Del Mar. San Clemente, CA 92672.
Sept 24.Watershed Resource Center:2981 Cliff Drive.Santa Barbara, CA 93109
Sept 29.Santa Monica Library--Ocean Park Branch: 2601 Main St.Santa Monica, CA 90405
Sept 30.Encinitas Community Center: 1140 Oakcrest Park Drive. Encinitas, CA 92024

Community Forum Information:
September 23, Wednesday. 7-8pm
San Clemente Community/Senior Center
242 Avenida Del Mar
San Clemente, CA 92672-4005
Use the Library building entrance on Del Mar Street, and the Senior Center is on your left side of the lobby.

http://www.surfrider.org/files/FAQSurfriderMLPA%20.pdf
http://www.surfrider.org/files/SF_MPAs_Access_Memo.pdf
http://www.surfrider.org/policy_mpa.asp

About the Marine Life Protection Act

The MLPA is a law that requires the state to establish a "network" of marine protected areas from Oregon to the Mexican border. The goals of the MLPA are to: 'set aside' areas of the ocean to increase fish populations, enhance marine habitat, and to improve recreational and educational opportunities. Over the past year, has been working with diverse groups of people including recreationalists, fishermen, environmentalists, and Chapter activists to ensure the law is effectively implemented. To learn more go here: Surfrider on the Marine Life Protection Act or email Ssekich@surfrider.org

peguinpower · 09-22-2009, 07:00 AM

they seem to be going against the grain of this section of the law.....

"to improve recreational and educational opportunities"

I'm getting desperate

bellcon · 09-22-2009, 07:40 AM

They better be careful what they wish for...
They just might have to change their name from
Surfrider
to
SurfWatcher
in the future...

dmrides · 09-22-2009, 01:28 PM

I think that we should all attend these meetings and cordially discuss our ideas and goals with them. I see quite a few people fishing at La Jolla on stand up paddle boards, one would only assume that they are Surfrider members. I also heard Bird on the morning surf report on 94.9 this morning saying that the surf was small and that he would recommend that you go fishing today rather than surfing. Seems like even Surfrider members would also be bummed about the closure.

Make your voices heard. Show up and let them know your thoughts. Of course do so in a respectful way, but let our voices be heard.

Dan · 09-22-2009, 01:34 PM

Stefanie at Surfrider is doing a good job balancing our interests. Pick the meeting close to you and make your points!

Surfrider can throw their weight around in a major way on issues.....the other enviros are not stoked on their moderate stance on this issue.

Matt · 09-22-2009, 01:48 PM

Ok so let me lay something out for many of you "informed" people regarding surfrider.....I have been chatting with two of their main people and I assure you they are more closely leaning to our side than many of you think. They have been taking a ton of flack for not joining the "enviro" side, in my chats with them they have been extremely open minded and supportive of keeping Lj open and not increasing the current MPA.....So hear them out and go up and express your opinions in a polite and courteous manner and you may just find that they are more on your side than you think!! Big PROPS should go to both Stefanie and Joe Geever, THANK YOU BOTH VERY MUCH FOR THE TIME YOU HAVE TAKEN TO CHAT WITH ME AND OTHERS!!

Dan · 10-01-2009, 09:21 AM

At the meeting last night, most attendees were in support of the shapes presented in WG3 for north county and San Diego.....please send your specific comments on any of the areas that you feel strongly about to Stefanie Sekich at ssekich@surfrider.org The memo they are compliling will be high impact, so speak up!

A quick email with the subject: MLPA Community Forum Comments

A quick one liner is fine. DO IT!!!!

(how was that guy that popped off to Tman? holy crap)

Holy Mackerel · 10-01-2009, 09:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dan

At the meeting last night, most attendees were in support of the shapes presented in WG3 for north county and San Diego.....please send your specific comments on any of the areas that you feel strongly about to Stefanie Sekich at ssekich@surfrider.org The memo they are compliling will be high impact, so speak up!

A quick email with the subject: MLPA Community Forum Comments

A quick one liner is fine. DO IT!!!!

(how was that guy that popped off to Tman? holy crap)

Thanks Dan! Remember to be polite in your email, no use to accuse SR for anything. Just state why you support a proposal, for example, WG2.

Tman · 10-01-2009, 10:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dan

(how was that guy that popped off to Tman? holy crap)

Yah, that was hilarious...hope he reads this...

Dan is referring to a comment some douchebag made about how I "shouldn't take a 50lb 9 year old out in the ocean if he can't handle it".

First of all Einstein, the comment I had made was how unsafe it is to have a 9 year old paddle 3 miles out to fish.

Second, he is 75lbs, not 50lbs.

And finally, you should remember this quote..."It is best to keep ones mouth closed and look like a fool than to open your mouth and remove all doubt."

Kayakers let it fly after his comment, me with 'Are you insulting my parenting skills' and 'He has 2 surfboards. So he whouldn't surf either?'

Then someone else who shall go unnamed really let it fly...his tale to tell.

Clay couldn't believe that an adult would insult a kid.

Needless to say, poor Stefanie was shocked he said that. As were others.

And nope I am not bashing Surfrider, just question their choice of members. Some members actually supported us on the 'dip net' issue and understood.

Unlike the other dip that spoke out....

"If you make an ass out of yourself, there will always be someone to ride you"

Billy V · 10-01-2009, 10:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tman

Kayakers let it fly after his comment, me with 'Are you insulting my parenting skills' and 'He has 2 surfboards. So he whouldn't surf either?'

Then someone else who shall go unnamed really let it fly...his tale to tell.

Clay couldn't believe that an adult would insult a kid.

Needless to say, poor Stefanie was shocked he said that. As were others.

And nope I am not bashing Surfrider, just question their choice of members. Some members actually supported us on the 'dip net' issue and understood.

Unlike the other dip that spoke out....

"If you make an ass out of yourself, there will always be someone to ride you"

Every once in a while a loud mouth like that needs to be reminded to have manners, It was my pleasure.

Notwithstanding the unwelcome outburst, our message was delivered.

Holy Mackerel · 10-01-2009, 10:44 AM

That stinks Martin, there are always bad apples in every group. Sounds like Stefanie, and Joe, are trying to work in good faith for everyone's access.

Dan · 10-01-2009, 11:04 AM

No way that guy has ever surfed a day in his life. He had to sit there and stew in that comment for another hour before sneaking out.

A good example of how any personal attacks in this process are just straight up ass hat douche nozzle material. That guy lost all cred. And good job Martin for not stooping to his level after he questioned your parenting.

Billy V · 10-01-2009, 10:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dan

At the meeting last night, most attendees were in support of the shapes presented in WG3 for north county and San Diego.....please send your specific comments on any of the areas that you feel strongly about to Stefanie Sekich at ssekich@surfrider.org The memo they are compliling will be high impact, so speak up!

A quick email with the subject: MLPA Community Forum Comments

A quick one liner is fine. DO IT!!!!

(how was that guy that popped off to Tman? holy crap)

Dan,

I spent a few minutes speaking with Stefanie, and Joe after the meeting. She asked that you specifically submit an e mail to Her summarizing the message we spoke about last night.

I will do the same.
ie. Map we support, Dip Net issue on WG3 , and our preferred boundaries.

Billy

09-22-2009, 01:09 AM	#1
forcefed Junior Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: West of the Rockies Posts: 7	Surfrider MLPA meetings starting Tue 9/23 7PM S.C. Being who they in this area, I'm sure they will have an influence with this "letter". Surfrider Explore Maps of Marine Protected Areas with the Surfrider Foundation September 20, 2009 PRESS RELEASE Decades of overfishing, coastal development, and pollution have taken a toll on Southern California's ocean environment. To help improve our ocean's health, the State is setting aside protected zones similar to state parks so that marine life can thrive. This is one of your last chances to give meaningful input on where marine protected areas should be located! Please join Surfrider to learn more about the Marine Life Protection Act and to discuss the proposed maps. *After the community forums, will compile all constructive comments into a letter that will be sent to decision makers before the final vote.* We need to hear from you! *Agenda: 7:00-7:10--Welcome and brief overview. 7:10-7:20--Summary of Surfrider's outreach efforts over the past year and what we learned from local communities and Surfrider supporters. 7:20-7:40--Overview and discussion of each map. 7:40-8:00--Questions & Answers. WHEN:* Four different forums will be held in the following areas:Orange County, Santa Barbara, Los Angeles and San Diego.All forums will be from 7-8pm. Sept 23. San Clemente Senior Center: 242 Avenida Del Mar. San Clemente, CA 92672. Sept 24.Watershed Resource Center:2981 Cliff Drive.Santa Barbara, CA 93109 Sept 29.Santa Monica Library--Ocean Park Branch: 2601 Main St.Santa Monica, CA 90405 Sept 30.Encinitas Community Center: 1140 Oakcrest Park Drive. Encinitas, CA 92024 Community Forum Information: September 23, Wednesday. 7-8pm *San Clemente Community/Senior Center* 242 Avenida Del Mar San Clemente, CA 92672-4005 Use the Library building entrance on Del Mar Street, and the Senior Center is on your left side of the lobby. http://www.surfrider.org/files/FAQSurfriderMLPA%20.pdf http://www.surfrider.org/files/SF_MPAs_Access_Memo.pdf http://www.surfrider.org/policy_mpa.asp About the Marine Life Protection Act The MLPA is a law that requires the state to establish a "network" of marine protected areas from Oregon to the Mexican border. The goals of the MLPA are to: 'set aside' areas of the ocean to increase fish populations, enhance marine habitat, and to improve recreational and educational opportunities. Over the past year, has been working with diverse groups of people including recreationalists, fishermen, environmentalists, and Chapter activists to ensure the law is effectively implemented. To learn more go here: Surfrider on the Marine Life Protection Act or email Ssekich@surfrider.org

09-22-2009, 01:48 PM	#6
Matt Support your local pangas Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Lj Posts: 976	SR Ok so let me lay something out for many of you "informed" people regarding surfrider.....I have been chatting with two of their main people and I assure you they are more closely leaning to our side than many of you think. They have been taking a ton of flack for not joining the "enviro" side, in my chats with them they have been extremely open minded and supportive of keeping Lj open and not increasing the current MPA.....So hear them out and go up and express your opinions in a polite and courteous manner and you may just find that they are more on your side than you think!! Big PROPS should go to both Stefanie and Joe Geever, THANK YOU BOTH VERY MUCH FOR THE TIME YOU HAVE TAKEN TO CHAT WITH ME AND OTHERS!! __________________ Thanks Matt F.

10-01-2009, 11:04 AM	#12
Dan Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 1,053	No way that guy has ever surfed a day in his life. He had to sit there and stew in that comment for another hour before sneaking out. A good example of how any personal attacks in this process are just straight up ass hat douche nozzle material. That guy lost all cred. And good job Martin for not stooping to his level after he questioned your parenting. Last edited by Dan; 10-01-2009 at 12:22 PM.

09-22-2009, 07:00 AM	#2
peguinpower bing! Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: socal Posts: 246	they seem to be going against the grain of this section of the law..... "to improve recreational and educational opportunities" I'm getting desperate

09-22-2009, 07:40 AM	#3
bellcon Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: San Pedro Posts: 999	They better be careful what they wish for... They just might have to change their name from Surfrider to SurfWatcher in the future...

09-22-2009, 01:28 PM	#4
dmrides Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Point Loma Posts: 584	I think that we should all attend these meetings and cordially discuss our ideas and goals with them. I see quite a few people fishing at La Jolla on stand up paddle boards, one would only assume that they are Surfrider members. I also heard Bird on the morning surf report on 94.9 this morning saying that the surf was small and that he would recommend that you go fishing today rather than surfing. Seems like even Surfrider members would also be bummed about the closure. Make your voices heard. Show up and let them know your thoughts. Of course do so in a respectful way, but let our voices be heard.

09-22-2009, 01:34 PM	#5
Dan Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 1,053	Stefanie at Surfrider is doing a good job balancing our interests. Pick the meeting close to you and make your points! Surfrider can throw their weight around in a major way on issues.....the other enviros are not stoked on their moderate stance on this issue.

10-01-2009, 09:21 AM	#7
Dan Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 1,053	At the meeting last night, most attendees were in support of the shapes presented in WG3 for north county and San Diego.....please send your specific comments on any of the areas that you feel strongly about to Stefanie Sekich at ssekich@surfrider.org The memo they are compliling will be high impact, so speak up! A quick email with the subject: MLPA Community Forum Comments A quick one liner is fine. DO IT!!!! (how was that guy that popped off to Tman? holy crap)

10-01-2009, 10:44 AM	#11
Holy Mackerel Señor member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 1,627	That stinks Martin, there are always bad apples in every group. Sounds like Stefanie, and Joe, are trying to work in good faith for everyone's access.