Pizza 'n Beer!! - Kayak Fishing Adventures on Big Water’s Edge

Holy Mackerel · 07-31-2009, 09:40 AM

At Pizza Port, show up to the MLPA meeting, then Join us at Pizza Port for brews, and pizza!!

www.pizzaport.com

But first a message on why you need to attend by RSG member Terry Maas.

So Cal Spearos,

This has been a very disappointing two days for me and apparently for BRTF chair Benninghoven who said he was disappointed by the complexities of the So Cal Region and by the fact that no array proposal achieved SAT guidelines.

His statement (paraphrased) is that next Monday when we begin Round 3, and that the "guidance" from the BRFT is that the primacy for array evaluation will be the score achieved by meeting SAT guidelines. Of secondary consideration is water quality and socio-economic impacts. So, the very man who got up the very first day of the process and who said publically that he wanted the economic impacts to have high priority, has fundamentally changed his position. Now, the pain of losing your best fishing hole is secondary to the almighty SAT guidelines.

On Monday, we are being assigned into 3 groups: Lapis I, Topaz, and External A. Our charge is to make each conform to SAT guidelines, which even the BRTF acknowledges is impossible to achieve for such habitat replicates as deep rock. We are free to expand our initial reserves and to use rejected reserves such as External B and External C as "libraries" from which to augment our arrays.

With socio-economic concerns relegated to secondary, the preservationists are free to expand their proposals to meet the hallowed SAT guidelines. At the end of round 3, we will advance these 3 improved arrays to the BRTF who will choose their "preferred" array. The remaining 2 along with the preferred will then be forwarded to the F&G commission for the final choice on which closures will become law.

Terry

WE ARE DANGEROUSLY CLOSE TO BEING SHUT DOWN....but it isn't over yet! we need your attendance at these meetings all the way up to the Department of Fish and Game.

bumblebeetuna · 07-31-2009, 10:09 AM

This is referring to the third correct? protectin our fishin grounds and GOOD beer? IM IN

Matt · 07-31-2009, 10:09 AM

Yep August third it is!!!

DagoAngler777 · 08-01-2009, 03:38 PM

what time?

tylerdurden · 08-01-2009, 05:01 PM

public comment at the meeting is scheduled for about 3:30 on Monday. You have to get there at least 15 minutes early to turn in a speaker card. Speaking is important. It is our only input directly to the stakeholders. Emailed and written comments are good too, but they can treat it like junk mail and ignore it. They have to sit there for public comment.

Pizza port afterward for grub. Don't know what time, whenever the meetings over. If you don't show up to the meeting, don't bother with pizza port.

I assume we are going to pizza port Carlsbad, not Solana beach.

fishdude · 08-02-2009, 12:43 PM

Solana Beach or Coarlsbad? 3:30 we need to be there?
I am in and will bring others.

07-31-2009, 09:40 AM	#1
Holy Mackerel Señor member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 1,627	Pizza 'n Beer!! At Pizza Port, show up to the MLPA meeting, then Join us at Pizza Port for brews, and pizza!! www.pizzaport.com But first a message on why you need to attend by RSG member Terry Maas. So Cal Spearos, This has been a very disappointing two days for me and apparently for BRTF chair Benninghoven who said he was disappointed by the complexities of the So Cal Region and by the fact that no array proposal achieved SAT guidelines. His statement (paraphrased) is that next Monday when we begin Round 3, and that the "guidance" from the BRFT is that the primacy for array evaluation will be the score achieved by meeting SAT guidelines. Of secondary consideration is water quality and socio-economic impacts. So, the very man who got up the very first day of the process and who said publically that he wanted the economic impacts to have high priority, has fundamentally changed his position. Now, the pain of losing your best fishing hole is secondary to the almighty SAT guidelines. On Monday, we are being assigned into 3 groups: Lapis I, Topaz, and External A. Our charge is to make each conform to SAT guidelines, which even the BRTF acknowledges is impossible to achieve for such habitat replicates as deep rock. We are free to expand our initial reserves and to use rejected reserves such as External B and External C as "libraries" from which to augment our arrays. With socio-economic concerns relegated to secondary, the preservationists are free to expand their proposals to meet the hallowed SAT guidelines. At the end of round 3, we will advance these 3 improved arrays to the BRTF who will choose their "preferred" array. The remaining 2 along with the preferred will then be forwarded to the F&G commission for the final choice on which closures will become law. Terry WE ARE DANGEROUSLY CLOSE TO BEING SHUT DOWN....but it isn't over yet! we need your attendance at these meetings all the way up to the Department of Fish and Game.

07-31-2009, 10:09 AM	#3
Matt Support your local pangas Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Lj Posts: 976	Yep August third it is!!! __________________ Thanks Matt F.

08-01-2009, 05:01 PM	#5
tylerdurden Bad Clone Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 874	public comment at the meeting is scheduled for about 3:30 on Monday. You have to get there at least 15 minutes early to turn in a speaker card. Speaking is important. It is our only input directly to the stakeholders. Emailed and written comments are good too, but they can treat it like junk mail and ignore it. They have to sit there for public comment. Pizza port afterward for grub. Don't know what time, whenever the meetings over. If you don't show up to the meeting, don't bother with pizza port. I assume we are going to pizza port Carlsbad, not Solana beach. __________________ MLPA, if you are not part of the solution, you are part of the problem Let the Fish and Game Commission know what you think about the proposed maps. Be ready for December 9th and 10th.

07-31-2009, 10:09 AM	#2
bumblebeetuna Junior Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 25	This is referring to the third correct? protectin our fishin grounds and GOOD beer? IM IN

08-01-2009, 03:38 PM	#4
DagoAngler777 Junior Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 1	what time?

08-02-2009, 12:43 PM	#6
fishdude Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: In a house Posts: 79	Solana Beach or Coarlsbad? 3:30 we need to be there? I am in and will bring others.