POOR MLPA ATTENDANCE!!!!! - Kayak Fishing Adventures on Big Water’s Edge

Holy Mackerel · 06-30-2009, 07:47 AM

I think this needs to be reposted!!! PLEASE ATTEND TONIGHT!!!! C'mon Kayakers, we need 100 people there tonight!! Who's coming??? Read below, you can type up your statement prior to tonight.

In a word, dismal for the spearing/fishing people. It was shockingly sparse.

Attendance by consumptives was lighter than expected, and this does not bode well for fishermen and spearos going forward. Ken Wiseman, the executive director for the MLPA was there, and I'm sure the lack of care by San Diego area fishermen about closure of their area didn't go unnoticed.

Perhaps an earlier comment regarding attending only one meeting has been taken the wrong way and has resulted in people de-emphasizing the need for attendance. This is not so for spearos.

Spearos are taking a different tack, and so do kayakfishermen. Understand--we are unique and have very unique needs. We can only do our diving/kayakfishing in a tiny sliver of the ocean, and we need to be extra vigilant. Close a few spots, and our sport is all but dead. These two groups (spearos and kayakfishermen) are encouraging, strongly encouraging, their people to pick up the pace and attend all meetings possible.

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Latest update.

The MLPA workshop is coming to San Diego tomorrow night, starting at 5:30PM.

Tuesday, June 30
Marina Village Conference Center
1936 Quivira Way
San Diego, CA 92109
(619) 222-1620

The MLPA people allows you to type up your comments before hand, print them out, and they will staple them to the form at the meeting.

This is HUGE.

Please go ahead and compose your statement on your computer at home during the day in advance (you should have received information on some possible discussion points by now) and print it out to bring to the meeting for stapling on the forms.

A lot of people have worked very hard to hope for better turn-out to save YOUR diving spots. Please attend.

Thank you!!!!

tylerdurden · 06-30-2009, 08:09 AM

Here is the form...

http://www.dfg.ca.gov/mlpa/pdfs/openhousecomments.doc

They also had a second half sheet form at the meeting. The other form was to comment on specific MPA's on specific maps. I commented on the map Lapis 1, La Jolla 2 SMR. That one would take away a very large portion of our fishing grounds in LJ. That map would kill us kayakers and spearo's in LJ.

Jason · 06-30-2009, 08:11 AM

I will be there tonight!

Spyder · 06-30-2009, 08:18 AM

I will be there tonight.

Tman · 06-30-2009, 08:31 AM

Sparse it was...

Guys from LA showed up...Dan, wife and son showed up...others made the drive and showed up...closest meeting I've been to, 4 min along the coast after hitting Oxnard and LA with the regulars.

Go ahead guys, sit back, let the regulars do the work for you...
if we don't save LJ, don't blame us...or Paul.

This is in our own backyard, no excuse not to be there...

Here's a thought...

# of meetings children attended - 4

# of meetings you've attended - ?

tylerdurden · 06-30-2009, 08:39 AM

What Tman said.
We need fresh faces. They are probably sick of seeing some of us. I came to the realization a while ago that if we don't speak for our interests as kayakers, who will? We have some common interests with other groups, but they are fighting for their fishing lives too, they can't sacrifice their efforts where it doesn't overlap with ours.

dos ballenas · 06-30-2009, 08:48 AM

I showed up but had to leave early before things really got started. I filled out the comment form... but I didn't see that many people from La Jolla or San Diego, thats for sure.

Pretty pathetic... come on guys, think about what it will be like in five years when all you want to do is fish, but there is no where to go! What will you do then?

Get out there and show your face!

Btw, was it important to stay for the whole thing? And how long did it last? Did they seperate people into groups? Fishermen vs econerds?

tylerdurden · 06-30-2009, 08:54 AM

I don't think staying for the whole thing is critical. I do think it is important to talk to some of the reps and I team before you leave though. I plan on doing more of that tonight than last night. Most important is commenting on the record on that form.

Just my thoughts.

zinkysd · 06-30-2009, 08:43 AM

I was there last night and plan on showing up tonight, even brought my 8 month old boy. I talked to Paul and he said that about 20 or so kayakers had showed up last night and that was at 8:00. We need to show up in mass tonight guys. Because every enviro in San Diego is going to be there and if they out number us then it under cuts our position and they can say that no one cares if La Jolla is closed or they would have shown up.

Ken

06-30-2009, 07:47 AM	#1
Holy Mackerel Señor member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 1,627	POOR MLPA ATTENDANCE!!!!! I think this needs to be reposted!!! PLEASE ATTEND TONIGHT!!!! C'mon Kayakers, we need 100 people there tonight!! Who's coming??? Read below, you can type up your statement prior to tonight. In a word, dismal for the spearing/fishing people. It was shockingly sparse. Attendance by consumptives was lighter than expected, and this does not bode well for fishermen and spearos going forward. Ken Wiseman, the executive director for the MLPA was there, and I'm sure the lack of care by San Diego area fishermen about closure of their area didn't go unnoticed. Perhaps an earlier comment regarding attending only one meeting has been taken the wrong way and has resulted in people de-emphasizing the need for attendance. This is not so for spearos. Spearos are taking a different tack, and so do kayakfishermen. Understand--we are unique and have very unique needs. We can only do our diving/kayakfishing in a tiny sliver of the ocean, and we need to be extra vigilant. Close a few spots, and our sport is all but dead. These two groups (spearos and kayakfishermen) are encouraging, strongly encouraging, their people to pick up the pace and attend all meetings possible. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Latest update. The MLPA workshop is coming to San Diego tomorrow night, starting at 5:30PM. Tuesday, June 30 Marina Village Conference Center 1936 Quivira Way San Diego, CA 92109 (619) 222-1620 The MLPA people allows you to type up your comments before hand, print them out, and they will staple them to the form at the meeting. This is HUGE. Please go ahead and compose your statement on your computer at home during the day in advance (you should have received information on some possible discussion points by now) and print it out to bring to the meeting for stapling on the forms. A lot of people have worked very hard to hope for better turn-out to save YOUR diving spots. Please attend. Thank you!!!!

06-30-2009, 08:09 AM	#2
tylerdurden Bad Clone Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 874	Here is the form... http://www.dfg.ca.gov/mlpa/pdfs/openhousecomments.doc They also had a second half sheet form at the meeting. The other form was to comment on specific MPA's on specific maps. I commented on the map Lapis 1, La Jolla 2 SMR. That one would take away a very large portion of our fishing grounds in LJ. That map would kill us kayakers and spearo's in LJ. __________________ MLPA, if you are not part of the solution, you are part of the problem Let the Fish and Game Commission know what you think about the proposed maps. Be ready for December 9th and 10th.

06-30-2009, 08:31 AM	#5
Tman BRTF...bought & paid... Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 1,247	Sparse it was... Guys from LA showed up...Dan, wife and son showed up...others made the drive and showed up...closest meeting I've been to, 4 min along the coast after hitting Oxnard and LA with the regulars. Go ahead guys, sit back, let the regulars do the work for you... if we don't save LJ, don't blame us...or Paul. This is in our own backyard, no excuse not to be there... Here's a thought... # of meetings children attended - 4 # of meetings you've attended - ? __________________ Adios Tman Gaffer for Clay the Fishcatcher

06-30-2009, 08:39 AM	#6
tylerdurden Bad Clone Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 874	What Tman said. We need fresh faces. They are probably sick of seeing some of us. I came to the realization a while ago that if we don't speak for our interests as kayakers, who will? We have some common interests with other groups, but they are fighting for their fishing lives too, they can't sacrifice their efforts where it doesn't overlap with ours. __________________ MLPA, if you are not part of the solution, you are part of the problem Let the Fish and Game Commission know what you think about the proposed maps. Be ready for December 9th and 10th.

06-30-2009, 08:48 AM	#7
dos ballenas Vampyroteuthis infernalis Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 585	I showed up but had to leave early before things really got started. I filled out the comment form... but I didn't see that many people from La Jolla or San Diego, thats for sure. Pretty pathetic... come on guys, think about what it will be like in five years when all you want to do is fish, but there is no where to go! What will you do then? Get out there and show your face! Btw, was it important to stay for the whole thing? And how long did it last? Did they seperate people into groups? Fishermen vs econerds? __________________ ____________________________________________

06-30-2009, 08:11 AM	#3
Jason Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Carlsbad Posts: 80	I will be there tonight!

06-30-2009, 08:18 AM	#4
Spyder Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: San Diego Posts: 169	I will be there tonight.

06-30-2009, 08:54 AM	#8
tylerdurden Bad Clone Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 874	I don't think staying for the whole thing is critical. I do think it is important to talk to some of the reps and I team before you leave though. I plan on doing more of that tonight than last night. Most important is commenting on the record on that form. Just my thoughts. __________________ MLPA, if you are not part of the solution, you are part of the problem Let the Fish and Game Commission know what you think about the proposed maps. Be ready for December 9th and 10th.

06-30-2009, 08:43 AM	#9
zinkysd Hobie Fishing Team Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 145	I was there last night and plan on showing up tonight, even brought my 8 month old boy. I talked to Paul and he said that about 20 or so kayakers had showed up last night and that was at 8:00. We need to show up in mass tonight guys. Because every enviro in San Diego is going to be there and if they out number us then it under cuts our position and they can say that no one cares if La Jolla is closed or they would have shown up. Ken