Thanks for MLPA turnout!!

[Holy Mackerel]

It was good to talk with a lot of people, and see the show! In the end, C was not moved fwd, but doctrine from it may have life, thanks to scrambling the BRTF.

See everyone at the end of the month for our local roadshow meetings!

[ratdog]

I was glad to make my presence known, and it was a pleasure to meet fellow kayak anglers, thank you for getting us organized.

[tylerdurden]

Good to see we had a lot of guys there. It isn't over yet. We aren't going away. We need at least that many at every meeting and roadshow event from here on out to support our RSG guys and to make sure we don't get taken along for a ride.

[LocoKayako]

Good to finally meet you in person Tyler.

I definately felt good to see everyone there to support our stakeholders and to stand up for all the work they have done.

Gabe

[tattuna]

Great to see all the SD guys up here. I was so frustrated and pissed off, I can only imagine what our stakeholders are going through. BIG hats off to them for all their hard work. See you guys in SD on the 29th!

[so cal shaggy]

Yes, a big thank you to everyone that showed up today you all carried yourselves with professionalism and were courteous when speaking good job and I thank you. I am sorry I was not able to speak very much and hang out with you guys I was crazy busy in helping get speaking cards filled out for the spearos with the 30 sec per person speaking time it threw us for a loop and we needed to scramble to get time ceded to people that needed to get their statement made. The next round will be the public workshops where we need a very big showing of people in black shirts see you guys there. Until then I suggest organizing a brainstorming session within your ranks to help put together speaking points and gameplans also talk to your local tackle shop if possible and ask them what large closures would do to their business. Yes, prop "C" has been thrown out but aspects of it will be brought out to help in deciding on the other maps but unfortunately that was the plan all along after the vote last month to get rid of it but us it as an evaluation tool for deciding if the other maps meet the SAT guidlines. Having ext prop C still around is a good thing trust me on this guys it will be a galvanizing map.

[Dan]

That was enlightening and very cool to hear all of the passion from the kayak fishing community.

Paul, Tman, and Kurt really nailed their message, WTG! As did many others.

I found it interesting that the 3 Surfrider employee's who spoke all asked for more time for the science to catch up, and stated that they were not for or against proposal "C".

I talked to all three of them and I was encouraged to hear that while they do support the notion of creating MPA's, the process is not buku and they were officially stating that a proposal that whacks all of Laguna (these were from the HQ and Orange County Chapters) was not acceptable as ~40% of their members were also fisherman, including the guy I was talking to. I got their cards and I will continue to follow up on their position and involvement going forward.

[C. Cary]

Thank you all for going to the meeting today. It is appreciated.

[kurt]

Good to see so many people who care enough to show up. I think we had the non-consumptive people outnumbered 5 to 1. Lets keep up the momentum, and thanks to everyone who was there today.

Thank you again Paul and MJ. I don't think any of us has the time or the stomach for the meetings you have subjected yourself to for our collective benefit.

Absolutely.

[Sunburn]

I was there but work issues would not allow me to schedule the day off. All I had was a few hours in the morning. I got there at 8:45 and had to leave at 11am. I thought I might get my comments in but the mic did not open until about 10:50. I'm glad I was there just to show support!


I caught some of the comments on the live internet feed while at work



Thank you for everyone that showed up. Made me feel good!


Mark

[Holy Mackerel]

I really have to thank Joe Nguyen for really organizing all groups. And of course to Paul, and MJ, and the rest of the RSG reps, you have a difficult job!

Today was a success in many ways, I dont want to diminish that fact at all!

[Mr GreenJeans]

I want to express my thanks to all of those who showed up for this important meeting. I couldn't make it, but listened to bits and pieces on line. Listening to you guys was awesome. I even saw Matt and Josh make their statements. Seeing guys I know stand up there and represent us was incredible.

I promise, promise, promise that I will be there for the next set of meetings at the end of June/early July. I also have some posts up to get the Dana Point guys out to those meetings too. Thanks so much. You guys were amazing.

David

[Kiyo]

Originally Posted by Dan

That was enlightening and very cool to hear all of the passion from the kayak fishing community.

Paul, Tman, and Kurt really nailed their message, WTG! As did many others.

I found it interesting that the 3 Surfrider employee's who spoke all asked for more time for the science to catch up, and stated that they were not for or against proposal "C".

I talked to all three of them and I was encouraged to hear that while they do support the notion of creating MPA's, the process is not buku and they were officially stating that a proposal that whacks all of Laguna (these were from the HQ and Orange County Chapters) was not acceptable as ~40% of their members were also fisherman, including the guy I was talking to. I got their cards and I will continue to follow up on their position and involvement going forward.

We sat right behind them and they weren't too happy. Every time a black shirt went over the time allowed they would look at each other and put their hands up in a way to say what's up? I wouldn't trust them from what we saw.

[Matt]

Originally Posted by Kiyo

We sat right behind them and they weren't too happy. Every time a black shirt went over the time allowed they would look at each other and put their hands up in a way to say what's up? I wouldn't trust them from what we saw.

Surfrider definitely flirts with both sides of the fence from what I have experienced....and I often wonder what their true agenda is, at the Oxnard and LA meeting they appeared to be very anti A and very, very, pro C, A is the one we want, but then again that is from overheard conversations I have not made any efforts to talk to them. I think by Dan's interaction we may be able to lure them over to the "Black Shirts" to some degree, the more allies and friends we have the better off we will be in the end for sure!!

[Fiskadoro]

Originally Posted by Holy Mackerel

It was good to talk with a lot of people, and see the show!

I had a great time. It was interesting to see so many people people there from so many different' areas all working together for a common goal.


Jim

[Fiskadoro]

Originally Posted by Holy Mackerel

It was good to talk with a lot of people, and see the show! In the end, C was not moved fwd, but doctrine from it may have life, thanks to scrambling the BRTF.

C was doomed by it's lack of compromise, it's lack of convergence of ideas from all sides.

The whole duplication argument is BS. For fisherman every mark on the map has meaning there are no duplicates.

This is not Northern California, there is only so much rocky bottom you can close without undo hardship. So as the plans go forward they will look even more alike over time until there is only one plan. The plans that went forward in this round are similar because they do reflect the hard work and meeting of the minds, the convergence the BRTF has demanded in the RSG groups.

I know that I for one am grateful for all the hard work on this put in by our reps on the RSG.

That hard work may be lost on Meg Caldwell but it's not lost on others and I'd say not and even on the other members of the BRTF.

No-one seconded Meg's initial amendment proposal to push C forward, she put herself out on a limb and lost the support of the rest of the BRTF that is a victory in itself even if she did get in a lesser amendment to keep some of C's ideas in possible play.

All the fishing oriented RSG members should feel proud. They helped expose who's willing to work in a spirit of convergence within the guidelines and who is just pushing a pre-ordained agenda.

Enjoy the victory. It may be a small one but it's one step towards the larger goal, a final solution that we can live with. That said they know what they are up against and are only going to come back at us harder.

Thanks for all the hard work!!

Jim

[DESTROYER]

I'm glad I experienced that first hand. Jim, Nate and myself stayed to talk at the general message and it felt good to get up and say out loud whats been bothering me. I will sleep good tonight! Thanks to all that showed up, cheers to you.

MaTT MoYer

[herbo]

Glad to have made it there, looked like a pretty good turn out from S.B. to S.D.