More Rod Questions - Live Bait Set Ups - Kayak Fishing Adventures on Big Water’s Edge

SoCalEDC · 12-01-2020, 03:30 PM

Admittedly I like to shop for gear and talk gear more than I actually like to have it once I get it so im always buying and selling and looking for the next thing. This time I am looking for an upgrade for my live bait set up.

I was using a Daiwa 50H on an old glass 15-40 7' rod for this, but recently got Penn 25N that I will be paring with a new rod.

I'm looking for something 7-7'6" in the 15-30 to 20-50, range. I will fish 65# braid w/ 30# top shot.

Maybe around 200 bucks. Preferably neutral in color (black, dark grey, CF, etc.) some accents would be fine as long as they aren't a contrasting color.

Any recommendations within that budget?

Thanks again guys!

45user · 12-01-2020, 11:01 PM

If you don’t mind little fast action I’d recommend Daiwa proteus boat rod line for your budget. Comes with lifetime warranty and really good rod for the money
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FullFlavorPike · 12-03-2020, 11:57 AM

If you want the advice of a tackle nerd who doesn't make time to fish, here's my $0.02.

Fishing braid and live bait? I'd fish a glass rod.

A Daiwa VIP 870 would make a great 25-30# kayak rod; and it would save you $80.

If you're going to fish 25-30, you might spool that reel with 50# braid, just a thought.

A Calstar WC 670 is basically god's gift to 40# rigs if you want to go up a line class and spend some loot, lol. Go pull on one some time and be amazed at the backbone. You could lift up the bottom of the ocean with that rod. Really any 670, even older glass models from Fenwick, is one heck of a 40# stick.

SoCalEDC · 12-03-2020, 10:05 PM

Thanks @45 user and @Fullflavorpike.

Noted. I will keep an eye out for either. I have a gift card to bass pro and unfortunately they don't sell daiwa rods (I know wierd), but I will look around and if I gotta pay out of pocket it is what it is. On second thought I had a 670, it a was a good halibut rod. I got it from Mike here on the forum but it was cut down to 7' and it was a jig stick. Not sure where the length was taken from but I felt like it needed to be wrapped higher up. Maybe that's why I didn't like it.

Also, @full flavor pike I plan to fish 65 on this set up because it's going to be an everything kind of rig. I will also fish it on boats, not just my kayak, so I think a 15-40, 20-40, 20-50 would be great. Maybe even favoring the heavier side for the yoyo.

SoCalEDC · 12-04-2020, 04:36 PM

I looked pretty hard at the Mojo Salt Conventional Rod, but ultimately decided to go with an Okuma PCH Custom 7' 30-60 because it was more available and has a lifetime warranty, ALPS seat and guides. They were on sale for 150 bucks at Peformance Tackle, so a buddy of mine snagged me one while he was there. By all accounts they are a good rod in the price range I was looking for. Might be a little stiff for live bait but I have some other rods that will fit into that role for now.

SoCalEDC · 12-09-2020, 06:30 AM

So now I guess I am looking to upgrade my live bait slow trolling rod. Thinking something in the 12-25, 15-30 range. I have a Seigler SGN that needs a rod, that might be a candidate for live bait fishing

12-01-2020, 03:30 PM	#1
SoCalEDC Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2019 Location: Rancho Cucamonga Posts: 609	More Rod Questions - Live Bait Set Ups Admittedly I like to shop for gear and talk gear more than I actually like to have it once I get it so im always buying and selling and looking for the next thing. This time I am looking for an upgrade for my live bait set up. I was using a Daiwa 50H on an old glass 15-40 7' rod for this, but recently got Penn 25N that I will be paring with a new rod. I'm looking for something 7-7'6" in the 15-30 to 20-50, range. I will fish 65# braid w/ 30# top shot. Maybe around 200 bucks. Preferably neutral in color (black, dark grey, CF, etc.) some accents would be fine as long as they aren't a contrasting color. Any recommendations within that budget? Thanks again guys! __________________ IG: @blackflag_fishing Youtube: Blackflag Fishing 2014 Ocean Kayak T13 SOLD 2020 Hobie Outback SOLD 2021 Stealth Fisha 500 #StealthTribe

12-03-2020, 10:05 PM	#4
SoCalEDC Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2019 Location: Rancho Cucamonga Posts: 609	Thanks @45 user and @Fullflavorpike. Noted. I will keep an eye out for either. I have a gift card to bass pro and unfortunately they don't sell daiwa rods (I know wierd), but I will look around and if I gotta pay out of pocket it is what it is. On second thought I had a 670, it a was a good halibut rod. I got it from Mike here on the forum but it was cut down to 7' and it was a jig stick. Not sure where the length was taken from but I felt like it needed to be wrapped higher up. Maybe that's why I didn't like it. Also, @full flavor pike I plan to fish 65 on this set up because it's going to be an everything kind of rig. I will also fish it on boats, not just my kayak, so I think a 15-40, 20-40, 20-50 would be great. Maybe even favoring the heavier side for the yoyo. __________________ IG: @blackflag_fishing Youtube: Blackflag Fishing 2014 Ocean Kayak T13 SOLD 2020 Hobie Outback SOLD 2021 Stealth Fisha 500 #StealthTribe Last edited by SoCalEDC; 12-03-2020 at 10:21 PM.

12-04-2020, 04:36 PM	#5
SoCalEDC Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2019 Location: Rancho Cucamonga Posts: 609	Purchase Made I looked pretty hard at the Mojo Salt Conventional Rod, but ultimately decided to go with an Okuma PCH Custom 7' 30-60 because it was more available and has a lifetime warranty, ALPS seat and guides. They were on sale for 150 bucks at Peformance Tackle, so a buddy of mine snagged me one while he was there. By all accounts they are a good rod in the price range I was looking for. Might be a little stiff for live bait but I have some other rods that will fit into that role for now. __________________ IG: @blackflag_fishing Youtube: Blackflag Fishing 2014 Ocean Kayak T13 SOLD 2020 Hobie Outback SOLD 2021 Stealth Fisha 500 #StealthTribe

12-09-2020, 06:30 AM	#6
SoCalEDC Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2019 Location: Rancho Cucamonga Posts: 609	So now I guess I am looking to upgrade my live bait slow trolling rod. Thinking something in the 12-25, 15-30 range. I have a Seigler SGN that needs a rod, that might be a candidate for live bait fishing __________________ IG: @blackflag_fishing Youtube: Blackflag Fishing 2014 Ocean Kayak T13 SOLD 2020 Hobie Outback SOLD 2021 Stealth Fisha 500 #StealthTribe

12-01-2020, 11:01 PM	#2
45user Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2012 Posts: 576	If you don’t mind little fast action I’d recommend Daiwa proteus boat rod line for your budget. Comes with lifetime warranty and really good rod for the money 45 Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

12-03-2020, 11:57 AM	#3
FullFlavorPike Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2016 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 809	If you want the advice of a tackle nerd who doesn't make time to fish, here's my $0.02. Fishing braid and live bait? I'd fish a glass rod. A Daiwa VIP 870 would make a great 25-30# kayak rod; and it would save you $80. If you're going to fish 25-30, you might spool that reel with 50# braid, just a thought. A Calstar WC 670 is basically god's gift to 40# rigs if you want to go up a line class and spend some loot, lol. Go pull on one some time and be amazed at the backbone. You could lift up the bottom of the ocean with that rod. Really any 670, even older glass models from Fenwick, is one heck of a 40# stick.