Hobie bait tank priming issue - Kayak Fishing Adventures on Big Water’s Edge

SLYAKER · 06-01-2017, 06:20 AM

Just got a brand new hobie tank and couldnt get it to pump or prime while on the water. Thought it might be cuz i installed the short intake tube for a PA14 so i took it home amd filled uo the sink to make it the best possible conditions to test it. Had the intake tube almost completely submerged amd still wont prime. I filled the tank with water so it was over the outlet of the pump and took 5+ mins to prime and start pumping amd still barely moved water... amyone else have this problem, ive heard iys an issue with the XL yank but not the small on

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tunaseeker · 06-01-2017, 07:09 AM

Normally once you get the pump going haul ass for about 30 seconds and it helps push water up the intake. Also carry a plastic tube about 18" long and same diameter so you can put on the outflow inside the bait tank and pull a slug with your lungs on the other end. This will start a siphon effect and prime the pump. Good luck!

YakDout · 06-01-2017, 07:10 AM

The correct way to prime with the PA on the water is with forward momentum. Obviously with the long tube. Make sure the cupped black part at the bottom of the hose is facing toward the front of the kayak so water is able to be forced up while you go forward. Check the pump for eel grass as well if youve used it all on the water. Battery charged? Check voltage make sure its full.

SLYAKER · 06-01-2017, 07:12 AM

Yea this is my second one, im familiar with how to prime just couldn't get it to work. I had the short tube on my old pa amd work fine but i will try the long tube and see how it goes. When i got it to finally prime just seemed like the pump was very weak but maybe i just remember my old.one pumping more... thanks guys

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PapaDave · 06-01-2017, 07:29 AM

Trying to get the pump primed by going forward is the hard way. Get yourself a 3-4 foot plastic tube, like a hose or something, place it over the outlet of the pump, turn the pump on and give it a little suck. Like you're siphoning gas or something. You'll find it much easier to get it going, been doing it for years. Just try not to get too much water in your mouth.

YakDout · 06-01-2017, 07:58 AM

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Originally Posted by SLYAKER

Yea this is my second one, im familiar with how to prime just couldn't get it to work. I had the short tube on my old pa amd work fine but i will try the long tube and see how it goes. When i got it to finally prime just seemed like the pump was very weak but maybe i just remember my old.one pumping more... thanks guys

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If all you tried was the short tube on the new PA its more than likely your problem. I was given the wrong inlet tube for my PA 14 and was not possible to prime the tank without filling it bout 1/2 way up prior.

SLYAKER · 06-01-2017, 08:00 AM

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Originally Posted by YakDout

If all you tried was the short tube on the new PA its more than likely your problem. I was given the wrong inlet tube for my PA 14 and was not possible to prime the tank without filling it bout 1/2 way up prior.

Thanks, ill change them out. Does ypur pump circulate water well. Mine seems to be weak

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wiredantz · 06-01-2017, 08:38 AM

mine always gives me a hard time, and i hate sucking water via a tube.

So i have a cup and fill the bait tank up to the output of the bait tank.

then the water finally starts coming in with forward momentum.

bolocop · 06-01-2017, 09:31 AM

Instead of siphoning a tube or all that work priming, get a 3/4" check valve with no spring. When you install it, just make sure the hinge of the flapper is pointing up, then your bait tank won't drain if you turn off the pump.

About $10 and be worry free...

http://www.redflagproducts.com/pvc-f...-x-socket.html

TheBentRod · 06-01-2017, 11:52 AM

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Originally Posted by SLYAKER

Just got a brand new hobie tank and couldnt get it to pump or prime while on the water. Thought it might be cuz i installed the short intake tube for a PA14 so i took it home amd filled uo the sink to make it the best possible conditions to test it. Had the intake tube almost completely submerged amd still wont prime. I filled the tank with water so it was over the outlet of the pump and took 5+ mins to prime and start pumping amd still barely moved water... amyone else have this problem, ive heard iys an issue with the XL yank but not the small on

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Next time make sure the tube opening is pointed in the correct direction to scoop up water and pedal faster after turning on the pump. Should solve the issue. The system is designed to self prime. I never have to fill water in the tank first.

jorluivil · 06-01-2017, 11:59 AM

I also have a short pick up tube and that happens to me every so often. I just keep pedaling and eventually it starts to pump the water into the tank.

SLYAKER · 06-04-2017, 03:31 AM

I know i need to put the longer tube on to help prime.. my concern is the volume of water that was being pumped, it was barely moving water i remember my last tank pump a significant amount of water.. ive been looking for videos online

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SLYAKER · 06-04-2017, 03:48 AM

This a shot of the flow after i got it to prime...

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TJones · 06-04-2017, 02:46 PM

That looks like a battery problem . Theses pumps are indestructible . Almost. If the pump fails it will be all out. What voltage are you reading from battery ? Go pick up meter from harbor freight for 10 bucks . Free with coupon .

FISH11 · 06-04-2017, 03:32 PM

Besides checking the battery voltage, if its been used a few times. Take the upper half of the pump out by pressing the red tab and turning the body of the pump 1/2 turn counter clock wise. Once you have it appart check to see if there's eel grass on the shaft. I had that happen, the impeller looked good but the shaft had a bunch and it was not visible with the pump assembled. The resistance on the shaft slowed it down.

TJones · 06-04-2017, 10:04 PM

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Originally Posted by FISH11

Besides checking the battery voltage, if its been used a few times. Take the upper half of the pump out by pressing the red tab and turning the body of the pump 1/2 turn counter clock wise. Once you have it appart check to see if there's eel grass on the shaft. I had that happen, the impeller looked good but the shaft had a bunch and it was not visible with the pump assembled. The resistance on the shaft slowed it down.

I try to break the pump down every trip so I don't have any surprises . Top is quick release .

SLYAKER · 06-04-2017, 10:54 PM

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Originally Posted by TJones

That looks like a battery problem . Theses pumps are indestructible . Almost. If the pump fails it will be all out. What voltage are you reading from battery ? Go pick up meter from harbor freight for 10 bucks . Free with coupon .

Its seemed weak to me.. thanks ill try that. It brand new just got it 2 weeks ago and been put once never got it to prime on the water.

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PapaDave · 06-05-2017, 07:37 AM

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Originally Posted by SLYAKER

This a shot of the flow after i got it to prime...

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You don't have a good suction, there is a leak somewhere. Try some GOOP on the connection between the intake and the tank. Also, you do know these pumps are rated for 12V, so you can always try that. Or get a new pump, they're cheap. Or return the tank for another one.

SLYAKER · 06-05-2017, 07:45 AM

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Originally Posted by PapaDave

You don't have a good suction, there is a leak somewhere. Try some GOOP on the connection between the intake and the tank. Also, you do know these pumps are rated for 12V, so you can always try that. Or get a new pump, they're cheap. Or return the tank for another one.

That crossed my mind too... would i kust need a 12v battery and go or are any changes needed... i took it back to the place i got it from and thwy just builr me a priming pump

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TheBentRod · 06-05-2017, 11:33 AM

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Originally Posted by PapaDave

You don't have a good suction, there is a leak somewhere. Try some GOOP on the connection between the intake and the tank. Also, you do know these pumps are rated for 12V, so you can always try that. Or get a new pump, they're cheap. Or return the tank for another one.

Faulty suction could explain a bit. If there is air in the pump it will be noisy and pump very slowly like you have pictured.

Make sure the pump is put back together correctly and you pedal faster a little longer. It will completely fill the pump. Make sure your battery is fully charged.

06-01-2017, 06:20 AM	#1
SLYAKER Member Join Date: May 2017 Location: corona, CA Posts: 34	Hobie bait tank priming issue Just got a brand new hobie tank and couldnt get it to pump or prime while on the water. Thought it might be cuz i installed the short intake tube for a PA14 so i took it home amd filled uo the sink to make it the best possible conditions to test it. Had the intake tube almost completely submerged amd still wont prime. I filled the tank with water so it was over the outlet of the pump and took 5+ mins to prime and start pumping amd still barely moved water... amyone else have this problem, ive heard iys an issue with the XL yank but not the small on Sent from my SM-G930P using Tapatalk

06-01-2017, 07:29 AM	#5
PapaDave Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Menifee, CA Posts: 1,473	Trying to get the pump primed by going forward is the hard way. Get yourself a 3-4 foot plastic tube, like a hose or something, place it over the outlet of the pump, turn the pump on and give it a little suck. Like you're siphoning gas or something. You'll find it much easier to get it going, been doing it for years. Just try not to get too much water in your mouth. __________________ So long and thanks for all the fish...

06-01-2017, 08:38 AM	#8
wiredantz Currently @ MLO Territory Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Under the Shadow Posts: 2,290	mine always gives me a hard time, and i hate sucking water via a tube. So i have a cup and fill the bait tank up to the output of the bait tank. then the water finally starts coming in with forward momentum. __________________ Team: Disbanded You only have one chance in this life...make the right decision(s)...so you don't regret it

06-01-2017, 09:31 AM	#9
bolocop Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Posts: 332	3/4" check valve solution Instead of siphoning a tube or all that work priming, get a 3/4" check valve with no spring. When you install it, just make sure the hinge of the flapper is pointing up, then your bait tank won't drain if you turn off the pump. About $10 and be worry free... http://www.redflagproducts.com/pvc-f...-x-socket.html

06-01-2017, 11:59 AM	#11
jorluivil Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 6,856	I also have a short pick up tube and that happens to me every so often. I just keep pedaling and eventually it starts to pump the water into the tank. __________________ www.facebook.com/Teamsewer

06-01-2017, 07:09 AM	#2
tunaseeker TB Metal Art Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: San Diego Posts: 653	Normally once you get the pump going haul ass for about 30 seconds and it helps push water up the intake. Also carry a plastic tube about 18" long and same diameter so you can put on the outflow inside the bait tank and pull a slug with your lungs on the other end. This will start a siphon effect and prime the pump. Good luck!

06-01-2017, 07:10 AM	#3
YakDout Brandon Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: San Diego Posts: 2,345	The correct way to prime with the PA on the water is with forward momentum. Obviously with the long tube. Make sure the cupped black part at the bottom of the hose is facing toward the front of the kayak so water is able to be forced up while you go forward. Check the pump for eel grass as well if youve used it all on the water. Battery charged? Check voltage make sure its full.

06-01-2017, 07:12 AM	#4
SLYAKER Member Join Date: May 2017 Location: corona, CA Posts: 34	Yea this is my second one, im familiar with how to prime just couldn't get it to work. I had the short tube on my old pa amd work fine but i will try the long tube and see how it goes. When i got it to finally prime just seemed like the pump was very weak but maybe i just remember my old.one pumping more... thanks guys Sent from my SM-G930P using Tapatalk

06-04-2017, 03:31 AM	#12
SLYAKER Member Join Date: May 2017 Location: corona, CA Posts: 34	I know i need to put the longer tube on to help prime.. my concern is the volume of water that was being pumped, it was barely moving water i remember my last tank pump a significant amount of water.. ive been looking for videos online Sent from my SM-G930P using Tapatalk

06-04-2017, 03:48 AM	#13
SLYAKER Member Join Date: May 2017 Location: corona, CA Posts: 34	This a shot of the flow after i got it to prime... Sent from my SM-G930P using Tapatalk

06-04-2017, 02:46 PM	#14
TJones Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Posts: 2,526	I'm guessing you did not hook up volt ohm meter? That looks like a battery problem . Theses pumps are indestructible . Almost. If the pump fails it will be all out. What voltage are you reading from battery ? Go pick up meter from harbor freight for 10 bucks . Free with coupon .

06-04-2017, 03:32 PM	#15
FISH11 Member Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: Pine Valley when not fishing La Jolla Posts: 2,643	Besides checking the battery voltage, if its been used a few times. Take the upper half of the pump out by pressing the red tab and turning the body of the pump 1/2 turn counter clock wise. Once you have it appart check to see if there's eel grass on the shaft. I had that happen, the impeller looked good but the shaft had a bunch and it was not visible with the pump assembled. The resistance on the shaft slowed it down. __________________ MARK ......... 2016 MALIBU X FACTOR, 2020 SOLO SKIFF (Fishing Kayak on Steroids )