Lever drag vs Star Drag

[Gunner58]

Ok gents I came to the harsh realization yesterday as I lost 3 fish that I need to beef up my gear. I am looking at a few reels some are star drag and some are lever drags. What are the pros and cons of each. I have always used star drags for inshore. Any advice is appreciated

[FISH11]

I have both but prefer my lever drag reels. Much easier to control the amount of drag. One thing that can't be matched is when fly lining a large (jumbo) mac that can over power the clicker, even with the line wrapped around the reel frame. You can just have the lever a little out of full free spool and apply enough drag to keep the line from constantly reel out. It allows you to apply enough resistance while still having the ability for the line to play out when a strike happens.

[Gunner58]

Ya I would agree with that even though I have not used one. I am looking at the avets, penn and the diawa. I am looking for a good all around reel that won't break the bank

[FISH11]

I just got a Daiwa Saltist LD40 2spd. I got it from Sports Chalet's web site. Got an e-mail from them that on the 4th they had a sale were if you signed up for Visa quick pay they gave you 25% off. Went right to the site I got the reel I had been shopping for and another rod. Super cool discount on the order and any problems Sports Chalet is close by.

[FARRIER]

How did you lose those 3 fish? Before you start blaming your gear I would test your terminal connections. That being said what did you lose them on. I had some good lessons from a friend who made me test my knots with actual weight. He filled a bucket with 25 pounds of weights and had me tie knots to a collection ring. I learned the problem was not my gear. Did you have clean breaks of your line or curly ques at the end or did they just come unbuttoned? You may need to beef up your knot arsenal before you start dropping coin.

[Gunner58]

One just pulled the hook, one broke clean just above the hook (possible toothy critter) and one line broke by my uni to uni knot. I was using 30lb floro attached to 50lb braid. But that is a great idea with testing knots. I will start doing that

[Mahigeer]

Looks like your problem is more with the rig than the reel.


Some reels, like Avet, do not allow for you to readjust your drag, unless it is in free spool.

In another word, the range of the level drag setting cannot be done without going to free spool.

If your level is in maximum drag setting and fish still is taking line and you need to increase the drag. You must first go to free spool and adjust drag with a small knob. Then your level will have different drag setting.

Kind of hard to explain on line.

[FlyFishinYakr]

Rather than assuming you need to upgrade your gear, here's something anglers sometimes forget.
How old is your gear, when was the last time the drag washers were serviced? Is your drag smooth or jerky?
How old is your line (if using mono), or top-shot? What kind of knots are you using (if you're consistently breaking off at the connections)? Do you check your line/top-shot after catching/hooking a fish (did it take you into the kelp)? If there's one thing I learned from my time at a tackle shop (Art's Tackle in Gardena) or on the boats was to check or change my line often (and buy bulk spools). At least every 5-6 trips or once a month I would change my line (mono).
Lastly (and this is just my opinion) maybe you should upsize your gear a little? I generally fish 40# for over 15-20# and when fishing around pesky dogs, kelp, pinnacles and if I'm fishing for food. I will fish 25-30# if the avg. are under 15# and if for sport.
Something to contemplate before you start shelling out some coin to upgrade [unless you need an excuse to tell "the significant other" why you have to buy some new gear, in which case newer gear has better tech! ].
FFY

[Gunner58]

Well to be honest it's a little of both. Reels are old so that could be part of the problem. I have two Abu 5500 that have been serviced not to long ago. I love those but prob not enough umph to handle those yellows. And I really do need to change out the line. It's about 1 year old so there are some other factors. But most of my bigger gear is about 10 or so years old so I think it's time to upgrade

[parkermann]

Check out some okuma reels. They now make some top of the line stuff. And they have a good amount a reels that are decently priced. The okuma Cedros and Cortez are great star drag reels and metaloid and andros are great lever drag.

And if you or someone you know is a first responder(cop, fireman, military, emt, ect) the okuma warehouse in Ontario gives you a 40% discount. My brother is a cop so he has been getting okuma gear at great prices

[Nic D]

Originally Posted by Gunner58

I am looking at a few reels some are star drag and some are lever drags. What are the pros and cons of each.

In my humble opinion they serve different purposes. I will try and keep my answer brief.

Star Drag - good for live bait fishing and throwing jigs, iron etc.

Lever Drag - good for live bait fishing and trolling lures or live bait.

If the main use of your gear is to drag live macs around then a lever drag is what you want. It's much easier to control the drag settings with a lever drag.

[Raskal311]

Originally Posted by Nic D

In my humble opinion they serve different purposes. I will try and keep my answer brief.

Star Drag - good for live bait fishing and throwing jigs, iron etc.

Lever Drag - good for live bait fishing and trolling lures or live bait.

If the main use of your gear is to drag live macs around then a lever drag is what you want. It's much easier to control the drag settings with a lever drag.

100% agree... my $200 torium cast better then my $500 talica.