Kayak Tournaments

[makobob]

Just a quick question. What would you gentlemen want to see in tournaments that could be set up for our community? One day, weekend, monthly, or yearly? By species? C.P.R., just California, Mexico, other locations? Do we weigh or tape the fish? WHAT would you like to see? Looking for YOUR ideas. Thanks.

Makobob

[Zed]

I want JASs tournaments back.
Really too bad CoDP/CA State Parks made logistics so difficult. Those were the best combined w/ a camping venue.

[dorado50]

Bring back the Moyer tournament......your best bet for a larger turnout and participation

[cabojohn]

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I'd like to see BOTH tourneys come back.

[MATTUSMC]

I am new to the area, so I cannot comment on previous tournaments in the area. But I would say something along the lines of what TKAA has in the Chesepeake Bay area. Multiple Divisions with several prizes to include some high dollar kayaks, rods, reels, other... Plus a large donation to HOW.

I would recommend both weight-in categories and catch-and-release (lenght based) categories to satisfy both types of fishermen.

I usually can only sneak away to fish one day a weekend, so I am partial to one day events, two or three day events are tough to fit in to a busy schedule with working 50-60 hours a week. But one day events can be tough if the bite is shut off that day for some reason or weather does not cooperate, so there are benefits to both single day and multiday events.

I have fished some monthly tournys with winners that get points for a yearly total. These can be fun because it lets those who can only fish a couple days a month still compete. The prizes for the monthly evolutions were usually smaller like lures or line for the top three places and points for the top 20 for the yearly total. The target fish for each month would vary based on what was around. Sometimes it would be a single fish or other months would be a Slam or combination of species. The top point accumulators for the year would receive higher end prizes like reels, rods, upto kayaks, paddles, and such.


But then again, there does not always need to be a prize... Sometimes a certificate and shit talking rights are a sufficent reward.

[MrM]

Wade has a pretty cool tournament he runs for different times, species, locations, etc. Makes is easy to participate for those who can't get out every week. Cheap, too.

[PAL]

Originally Posted by MATTUSMC

I am new to the area, so I cannot comment on previous tournaments in the area. But I would say something along the lines of what TKAA has in the Chesepeake Bay area. Multiple Divisions with several prizes to include some high dollar kayaks, rods, reels, other... Plus a large donation to HOW.

I'm curious Matt. With all those prizes and a big donation, what are you willing to pay for such an event? The Moyer was $60 at the end, with raffle tickets benefitting the American Cancer Society extra.

I covered the kayak fishing tournament scene for Western Outdoor News for years. I've pitched in (a little) at Plastic Navy events and the Moyer, and put together one poorly run but well supported tournament that raised something like $7000 (THANKS - that was huge!) when we were in the MLPA fight. I fished a lot of them, including the classic blowouts JAS put on and all the early Moyers.

Personally, I think any new events might need to grow up like the old ones, and start from the grassroots like the Money Between Friends events that spawned the Plastic Navy Tournament Trail. I'm pretty sure they still exist in some form. Wade tried one. It didn't draw well for some reason.

WON asked me to look into a Dana Pt tourney a few years back. Rather than the state park, the trick is to go through the harbor management and hold the get-together in the launch ramp parking lot. People can still camp at Doheny State Beach next door. It's doable, but we couldn't make the numbers work for WON. The entry fee would have had to be $100.

I think $50 is a more reasonable number, or even $35. After food, supplemental prizes, permits, insurance (a must!), weigh and safety boat gas, and jackpots, there isn't much left. Companies don't donate gear the way they used to. There has to be a return - I don't blame them.

Tournaments are a lot of work. The guys who did it out of love of the sport eventually burned out.

Back in the day, BWE managed to hold some events right at the Shores. They were outside the silly season. Were they before summer? I have no idea what the situation is now, whether it is still doable.

I haven't talked with any of the local shop owners about a tournament in some time. Convenient facilities exist. There are good reasons why the shops all pulled back a few years ago. For a shop to host a tournament, they need to generate foot traffic and sales - and not just from guys already in the sport. Novices need to be welcome too.

I've thought about it. I'm up for helping with a community effort, for instance, if we were going to bring back something like the Moyer. The magazine I edit might get into the game, but for now it's mostly a one-man shop. Maybe someday.

I'll be following this thread closely.

[T-Rex]

Originally Posted by cabojohn

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I'd like to see BOTH tourneys come back.

Ditto! I really enjoyed Jas's events, the Steve Moyer Memorial and the Plastic Navy Tournament Trail and miss them all. It's a huge amount of work for the organizers and volunteers. I've always felt they should be compensated for all the work they do and wouldn't mind paying more to participate in these events. Otherwise the folks doing all the planning and work are gonna get burned out eventually.

[Siebler]

I personally would love to see a nice big Mission Bay event in the spring and a San Diego bay event in the fall again. I know Iceman has wanted to do something again as well but like Paul said it is a ton of work and our few dates this year that were chosen flopped repeatedly (including Dana Point due to possible size).

Im thinking early April in Mission Bay. If Andy will help me and we can get a few others to help as well I am all in. Sponsors never seem to be an issue as our vendors are very generous and always willing when I ask (especially when its a HOW benefit).

[Zed]

Originally Posted by dorado50

Bring back the Moyer tournament......your best bet for a larger turnout and participation

BUT, that works against LJ. We know Calle Playa is a clusterfu[k with a lot of people. Plus the loading up and driving inland to a park for the weigh-in BBQ is a drag.

Venue plus the quality and diversity of the sport fish available will dictate a "good" tournament. Having both at the same time is rare in CA, in regards to MATTUSMCs comments and big tournaments.

Edit: And if it were easy in CA (OK SoCal), there would be the big tournaments mentioned above still running.

[t-$money bussard]

honestly, i miss the plastic navy tournament trail... those were great tournaments.

[alanw]

Weight. It's always weight that matters.

[Pocoloco]

Originally Posted by t-$money bussard

honestly, i miss the plastic navy tournament trail... those were great tournaments.

bring on the plastic navy

[bus kid]

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[MATTUSMC]

Entry was $75... If someone was interested in putting on a full blown big event, I would recommend reaching out to the board members at www.tkaa.org.




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[makobob]

I would like to thank everyone who took the time to reply, some pretty good ideas and plenty of food for thought. Now I wonder if ................?????

Makobob