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Old 05-20-2013, 05:01 PM   #1
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17 pond salmon in carpinteria

6,30 am the salmon hit the rapala 1 mile from the beach
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Old 05-20-2013, 05:11 PM   #2
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no take ?

no pic either?
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Old 05-20-2013, 05:11 PM   #3
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Any pics????

I would kill for that opportunity!
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Old 05-20-2013, 05:44 PM   #4
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Old 05-20-2013, 07:30 PM   #5
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yeah nice fish

were you just trolling around looking for any takers or were you on a salmon hunt? how deep? open water, around kelp? Great catch either way.
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Old 05-20-2013, 07:31 PM   #6
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Old 05-20-2013, 08:29 PM   #7
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very cool - great job!!!
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Old 05-25-2013, 03:45 PM   #8
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here some photo
Great catch!!! My favorite fish to catch to eat in So. Cal.
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Old 05-25-2013, 04:06 PM   #9
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The reason for barbless hook is to safely release coho and undersized chinooks. So how do you do this with treble hooks? The Ocean salmon regs clearly requires barbless hooks in all areas. There is no mention that trebles or any barbed hooks are allowed. It does not make sense that one area is exempted from using barbless hooks.

I will personal inquire with DFG about this catch. BTW any angler fishing for salmon is required to carry a net for safe release of undersize fish. DFG really enforces this if salmon are around.

See 28.65 (d).

https://nrm.dfg.ca.gov/FileHandler.a...05&inline=true

2013-2014 California Ocean Sport Fishing Regulations

Gear Restrictions
28.65.


(d) No gaff hook shall be used to take or assist in landing any finfish shorter than the minimum
size limit. For the purpose of this section a gaff hook is any hook with or without a handle used to
assist in landing fish or to take fish in such a manner that the fish does not take the hook voluntarily
in its mouth. No person shall take finfish from any boat or other floating device in ocean waters
without having a landing net in possession or available for immediate use to assist in landing under
size fish of species having minimum size limits; the opening of any such landing net shall be not less
than eighteen inches in diameter

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Old 05-25-2013, 05:01 PM   #10
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The Ocean salmon regs clearly requires barbless hooks in all areas. There is no mention that trebles or any barbed hooks are allowed.
Is there place it mentions that trebles are specifically legal for Yellowtail or Halibut?

I know you think I'm giving you a hard time but you started off giving someone a hard time about a legal catch, and honestly I'm just correcting your error. I think you are wrong, I said so, I offered proof, I still think so, and I'm pretty convinced that your not used to fishing Salmon down here in So. Cal.

Unless the Reg has changed we still are not required to fish barbless hooks down here.

The gear restrictions in the regs are really straight forward. I.E. they say what you have to use to the exclusion of other normal gear and tell you where you have to use it.

Barbless hooks are by the regs required North of Point Conception.

I already showed you the regulation:

"North of Pt. Conception: No more than two (2) single-point, single-shank barbless hooks shall be used"

That does not say: "No more than two (2) single-point, single-shank barbless hooks shall be used for Salmon at all times while ocean fishing in California "

It clearly states North of Pt. Conception. Why does it say that? Because... Duh!!! That's where you have to use single barbless hooks. I think the commercials have to use them everywhere, but we are not covered by the commercial regs, we are Recreational Kayak anglers.

You can tell me I'm wrong all you want but the regs are online. Just show me where they say barbless single hooks are required South of Point Conception, and I'll gladly admit I'm wrong.

I already showed you the language that backs me up, now you have to show me something that proves me wrong. Otherwise people are going to think your speaking from ignorance when it comes to the regs, and also giving this guy a hard time for no reason on his legal and very incredibly cool catch of that quality Salmon.

Jim

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Old 05-25-2013, 05:10 PM   #11
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BTW any angler fishing for salmon is required to carry a net for safe release of undersize fish. DFG really enforces this if salmon are around.
I don't see anything about barbless hooks south of point conception, but at least your reading the regs

Actually we are already required to carry a net for safe release of undersize Halibut in So. Cal..

Once again read those regs then come back and show me where it says that we have to use barbless when fishing for salmon below point conception. I bet you can't do it.

We are far from the spawning grounds and seldom get undersized Salmon down here in So Cal, so it's never been a issue here, and that's why we were not required to switch to barbless.

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