sabiki questions - Kayak Fishing Adventures on Big Water’s Edge

Ggiannig89 · 02-19-2013, 08:03 PM

Where does everybody buy there sabikis? What brands? Or do you guys make your own? Arw they worth the time to make your own? Lets hear some sabiki info and suggestions

Dannowar · 02-19-2013, 08:05 PM

Buy one. Trim it. I use 3 hooks. Had the same one since summer.

Cbad Mike · 02-19-2013, 08:08 PM

I buy whatever one is cheap, use it one day and toss it because of tangles.

jorluivil · 02-19-2013, 08:19 PM

Sabiki's are like toilet paper, use it once and toss it.

I usually do what Danno does, I've never had a Sabiki come up with more than 2-3 dines or macs so I don't think there is a need for six hooks. I believe 3 is plenty enough, it also prevents tangles and decreases the chance of other hooks getting caught on you. I usually buy whatever is cheapest.

GregAndrew · 02-19-2013, 08:19 PM

Fred Hall show. Get em for a buck.

MrM · 02-19-2013, 08:26 PM

I use a 5 hook sabiki. 3 or 4 is probably better, though. If you ever pull a full string by the time you get to the 5th fish it's been out of the water a bit, and chances are you've tangled up somewhere.

Walmart has some cheap ones. I only use a sabiki for 2 or 3 trips then throw I it away- It's usually thrashed by then.

I bought a sabiki rod on either Amazon or eBay, I forget. 50 bucks (ish) and it works pretty good. You can do without a rod, but that's all personal preference.

yaker81 · 02-19-2013, 08:38 PM

I have my wifes mom send me a bunch of the these packs from japan a couple times per year. They are only $1 and you get 2 sabikis in 1 pack.

dmrides · 02-19-2013, 09:27 PM

Owners.....

http://m.youtube.com/#/watch?v=dC_L0...%3DdC_L0xOVAHU

You never know what's going to hit your sabiki

02-19-2013, 11:08 PM

Charbait has the best price on Sabiki's at about $1.19 or so a piece. WM/Dana/Anglers Choice all charge in the 3-4 range. I buy in bulk, cut in half and discard

Raskal311 · 02-20-2013, 06:34 AM

Swamp meet $1 each I believe, its been awhile. I generally buy 10 and it last me a awhile.

taggermike · 02-20-2013, 09:50 AM

Same here. The cheapest I can fish and usually cut down the number of hooks. A full string of big macks is a PITA on a yak. And if you have 1 to 3 baits on the sibiki the other damn hooks will find a way in to you or about any thing else on the kayak. when they're beat upI roll themup tight and trash em. I use sibiki rods when I fish from a skiff but on the kayak I don't want a pole holder taken up all day. Mike.

Jimmyz123 · 02-21-2013, 06:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Ggiannig89

Where does everybody buy there sabikis? What brands? Or do you guys make your own? Arw they worth the time to make your own? Lets hear some sabiki info and suggestions

If you manage them well you can keep one for a long time. Problem is that all those hooks get stuck on rigging and stuff on the kayaks and have to be cut free at times. However, a well kept Sabikis should last a season or two. Last time at BPS they were selling them for .50 each so I bought 6 of them. I think I'm set for a while.

Fishwhisperer619 · 02-21-2013, 11:47 AM

Good advice on the sabiki rigs. Ive seen sabiki rods out there but i wanna try and utilize what I already have if possible. What do you suggest I use? A light rod with a lil spinning reel?

Jimmyz123 · 02-21-2013, 12:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Fishwhisperer619

Good advice on the sabiki rigs. Ive seen sabiki rods out there but i wanna try and utilize what I already have if possible. What do you suggest I use? A light rod with a lil spinning reel?

I have seen some use those rods and they keep the sabikis in order but I just use an old rod that I had with a jigmaster reel. Nothing major, very simple, and it does the job. A spinning rod would work for sure.

Redeyejedi · 02-21-2013, 12:10 PM

can wrap them around a wine/champagne cork...esp with the halved-biki's.
wrap stick hook, wrap. begin with line end finish with the terminal side, so when unwrapping, can use weight to assist unravel...i dunno, works for my, ymmv.

dos ballenas · 02-21-2013, 12:31 PM

http://www.bigwatersedge.com/bwevb/showthread.php?p=111001

You can search the forums for this kind of info.... it has all been discussed.

google: bigwatersedge.com sabiki

forget the sabiki rod.... cut you your sabikis in half.

There are numerous reasons why I prefer to cut sabikis in half (3 hooks)

1) It's much easier to remove 3 big macs in a timely manner and get them safely into the bait tank than 6 of them. This allows you to get your sabiki back into the water fast allowing you to catch 3 more baits before the school is gone.

2) 6 mackerel on a sabiki tangles OFTEN. If you're tangled you're not catching more bait. Tangles can be really bad and frustrating. The school will be long gone by the time you untangle the sabiki. Many times ONE tangle will RUIN your sabiki and you will have to throw it out.

3) If you catch 6 baits at a time the last fish you remove from hooks #5 are 6 not going to be in very good condition and will die faster than the rest.... so in the end you only get 3 or 4 good baits anyways!

4) depending on how much time there is between fishing trips your sabiki hooks might rust: the barbs (which are tiny) will disappear.

So not only do you avoid tangles, but you end up with better quality bait, and you get two sabikis for the price of one.

In reality sabiki rods just take up a spot that could be filled with another functional rod. It's NOT hard to cut off and retie a sabiki.

A 3 hook sabiki set up with a 1 oz war baits lead head is easy to store, won't tangle or foul your other rods, and can be cut off and tied back on in a pinch should you need another rod for something other than bait.

Plus: for the people really worried about not catching 6 baits at a time, the lead head you will often catch a forth mackerel.

The best bait rod set up I have found is a fast action light weight conventional bass rod combined with a small bait caster FILLED with braided line.... when making bait )especially with squid) it is important to fish with braided line.... it is critical to feel the squid when they hit your jig. When I switched from mono to braid my squid catching increased significantly.

GregAndrew · 02-21-2013, 04:13 PM

Yes, if your main target is Macs then by all means limit the mess. However, some of us prefer to target other baits and/or fish areas where Macs are not so plentiful as La Jolla. Ask anybody that has fished San Onofre from a kayak more than a few times how scarce bait can be and how fast it can be gone. With the release tool and a basic skill level, you should have a full sabiki cleaned in less than 10 seconds. Besides, having 6 hooks is no guarantee that you will be hauling in 6 baits each time.

02-19-2013, 08:03 PM	#1
Ggiannig89 Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: El Cajon Posts: 512	sabiki questions Where does everybody buy there sabikis? What brands? Or do you guys make your own? Arw they worth the time to make your own? Lets hear some sabiki info and suggestions

02-19-2013, 08:05 PM	#2
Dannowar Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Posts: 1,823	Buy one. Trim it. I use 3 hooks. Had the same one since summer. __________________ "Beware the lollipop of mediocrity; lick it once and you’ll suck forever." — Brian Wilson

02-19-2013, 08:19 PM	#4
jorluivil Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 6,856	Sabiki's are like toilet paper, use it once and toss it. I usually do what Danno does, I've never had a Sabiki come up with more than 2-3 dines or macs so I don't think there is a need for six hooks. I believe 3 is plenty enough, it also prevents tangles and decreases the chance of other hooks getting caught on you. I usually buy whatever is cheapest. __________________ www.facebook.com/Teamsewer Last edited by jorluivil; 02-20-2013 at 06:53 AM.

02-19-2013, 08:26 PM	#6
MrM Senior Member Join Date: May 2012 Location: The Matrix Posts: 643	I use a 5 hook sabiki. 3 or 4 is probably better, though. If you ever pull a full string by the time you get to the 5th fish it's been out of the water a bit, and chances are you've tangled up somewhere. Walmart has some cheap ones. I only use a sabiki for 2 or 3 trips then throw I it away- It's usually thrashed by then. I bought a sabiki rod on either Amazon or eBay, I forget. 50 bucks (ish) and it works pretty good. You can do without a rod, but that's all personal preference. __________________ -Kevin

02-21-2013, 12:31 PM	#16
dos ballenas Vampyroteuthis infernalis Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 585	http://www.bigwatersedge.com/bwevb/showthread.php?p=111001 You can search the forums for this kind of info.... it has all been discussed. google: bigwatersedge.com sabiki forget the sabiki rod.... cut you your sabikis in half. There are numerous reasons why I prefer to cut sabikis in half (3 hooks) 1) It's much easier to remove 3 big macs in a timely manner and get them safely into the bait tank than 6 of them. This allows you to get your sabiki back into the water fast allowing you to catch 3 more baits before the school is gone. 2) 6 mackerel on a sabiki tangles OFTEN. If you're tangled you're not catching more bait. Tangles can be really bad and frustrating. The school will be long gone by the time you untangle the sabiki. Many times ONE tangle will RUIN your sabiki and you will have to throw it out. 3) If you catch 6 baits at a time the last fish you remove from hooks #5 are 6 not going to be in very good condition and will die faster than the rest.... so in the end you only get 3 or 4 good baits anyways! 4) depending on how much time there is between fishing trips your sabiki hooks might rust: the barbs (which are tiny) will disappear. So not only do you avoid tangles, but you end up with better quality bait, and you get two sabikis for the price of one. In reality sabiki rods just take up a spot that could be filled with another functional rod. It's NOT hard to cut off and retie a sabiki. A 3 hook sabiki set up with a 1 oz war baits lead head is easy to store, won't tangle or foul your other rods, and can be cut off and tied back on in a pinch should you need another rod for something other than bait. Plus: for the people really worried about not catching 6 baits at a time, the lead head you will often catch a forth mackerel. The best bait rod set up I have found is a fast action light weight conventional bass rod combined with a small bait caster FILLED with braided line.... when making bait )especially with squid) it is important to fish with braided line.... it is critical to feel the squid when they hit your jig. When I switched from mono to braid my squid catching increased significantly. __________________ ____________________________________________

02-19-2013, 08:08 PM	#3
Cbad Mike Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Carlsbad Ca. Posts: 1,206	I buy whatever one is cheap, use it one day and toss it because of tangles.

02-19-2013, 08:19 PM	#5
GregAndrew Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 2,384	Fred Hall show. Get em for a buck.

02-19-2013, 08:38 PM	#7
yaker81 Banned Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: SD Posts: 65	I have my wifes mom send me a bunch of the these packs from japan a couple times per year. They are only $1 and you get 2 sabikis in 1 pack.

02-19-2013, 09:27 PM	#8
dmrides Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Point Loma Posts: 584	Owners..... http://m.youtube.com/#/watch?v=dC_L0...%3DdC_L0xOVAHU You never know what's going to hit your sabiki

02-19-2013, 11:08 PM	#9
Drake Guest Posts: n/a	Charbait has the best price on Sabiki's at about $1.19 or so a piece. WM/Dana/Anglers Choice all charge in the 3-4 range. I buy in bulk, cut in half and discard

02-20-2013, 06:34 AM	#10
Raskal311 Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Santa Ana/Westminster Posts: 1,256	Swamp meet $1 each I believe, its been awhile. I generally buy 10 and it last me a awhile.

02-20-2013, 09:50 AM	#11
taggermike Senior Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: Chula Vista Posts: 1,589	Same here. The cheapest I can fish and usually cut down the number of hooks. A full string of big macks is a PITA on a yak. And if you have 1 to 3 baits on the sibiki the other damn hooks will find a way in to you or about any thing else on the kayak. when they're beat upI roll themup tight and trash em. I use sibiki rods when I fish from a skiff but on the kayak I don't want a pole holder taken up all day. Mike.

02-21-2013, 11:47 AM	#13
Fishwhisperer619 Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: chula vista Posts: 323	Good advice on the sabiki rigs. Ive seen sabiki rods out there but i wanna try and utilize what I already have if possible. What do you suggest I use? A light rod with a lil spinning reel?

02-21-2013, 12:10 PM	#15
Redeyejedi Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Westside Posts: 141	can wrap them around a wine/champagne cork...esp with the halved-biki's. wrap stick hook, wrap. begin with line end finish with the terminal side, so when unwrapping, can use weight to assist unravel...i dunno, works for my, ymmv.

02-21-2013, 04:13 PM	#17
GregAndrew Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 2,384	Yes, if your main target is Macs then by all means limit the mess. However, some of us prefer to target other baits and/or fish areas where Macs are not so plentiful as La Jolla. Ask anybody that has fished San Onofre from a kayak more than a few times how scarce bait can be and how fast it can be gone. With the release tool and a basic skill level, you should have a full sabiki cleaned in less than 10 seconds. Besides, having 6 hooks is no guarantee that you will be hauling in 6 baits each time.