Observations and questions (halibut) - Kayak Fishing Adventures on Big Water’s Edge

Mr. Adventure · 05-14-2012, 11:45 AM

So last Thursday I went out bound and determined to catch my first Halibut.

I had the van loaded up and when I got off work at midnight, drove the van down to Newport and slept in till like 7. And boy were the reports off. Wind was about a steady 10mph all day. I get out and could NOT make bait, I would meter some and by the time I dropped I was away from them. I made one little mac, and one sardine and paddled down to the north end of crystal cove.

My plan was to troll the back of the surf zone, but that was clearly out of the question. It seems like he kelp has grown since I was last there, right up to the surf zone and the surf was pumping. SO I tried tossing my 1.5oz leadhead to bounce it along the bottom to see if I could get some action but the wind and current just weren't working for me.

So i got back in like 50ft of water and trolled back to the harbor. A question, on a day when the wind and current are ripping you just need more weight to stay on the bottom right? I was using a 5 oz and couldn't stay on the bottom. So more weight right? And what should be the angle of the dangle of my line, no more than 45 degree right?

When I put on like an 8oz sinker I have a hard time keeping it right, either every swell pulls more line, or I have to put the reel in gear and back off the drag to get it to tug along I totally get why lever drag is used for trolling, just don't have one right now. Trolling between 1-2 mph am I going to fast on this.

I also thought I was a clever devil by gooping my ducer at the prow of my yak thinking I would meter stuff and be able to drop on it quicker. Well don't do that, all day I was being slammed up and down and every time my bow lifted out of the water the finder would loose contact and take a 10-30 seconds to get a good reading again. It was really frustrating and maybe contributed to my not finding bait.

I REALLY want to land my first Halibut, I've heard that spring time in Crystal Cove is bananas for Halibut. But I've also heard the kelp around Dana Point is great too, maybe I'll give there a go next time.

min-va · 05-14-2012, 11:56 AM

In these kind of wind, maybe should just try drifting instead of trolling, slow down a bit.

Free spool, clicker on....and keep drifting~~ and then...zzzzz..zzz.z..z.zz fish on!!

Mr. Adventure · 05-14-2012, 12:14 PM

yeah, It was my only bait down there and he wasn't looking so hot and I was a little fed up and just jamming back to the harbor.

cobrakid · 05-14-2012, 12:28 PM

the angle of your dangle is crucial.

William Novotny · 05-14-2012, 12:33 PM

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Originally Posted by cobrakid

the angle of your dangle is crucial.

I disagree. halibut are more concerned with the beat of your meat.

William Novotny · 05-14-2012, 12:29 PM

On those days I swear alot then go home. But you will have better luck going and jigging around the bait barge for Macs feeding off bait escaping the nets. Then trolling the harbor. Just match your tackle to the size of bait and hope a big hungry flatty is around. I use a6oz to keep the big bait from swimming up

taggermike · 05-14-2012, 12:41 PM

I agree with William, some days you just gotta give up or have a plan "B". There can be good halibut fishing inside most harbors and you can make smelt inside too, usually. It kinda depends on my rig and water depth but I like to have the line as verticle as possible. With 6oz or more it's very difficult to slow troll or drift with the clicker on. Spectra lets you use less weight as it drags in the water less. Mike

Mr. Adventure · 05-14-2012, 12:45 PM

Yeah plan B was heading out like 200 ft of water where people have been doing rockfish reports, but the white caps ended that one!

Can you make smelt on sabiki? are they fairly hardy?

Bennyblanco · 05-14-2012, 01:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Adventure

Yeah plan B was heading out like 200 ft of water where people have been doing rockfish reports, but the white caps ended that one!

Can you make smelt on sabiki? are they fairly hardy?

You sure can all day long.if you troll from coastguard station down to the red bouy chances of landing a halibut are great.i like to get in when low tide is on.it will drag you out and by the time you get to the red bouy high tide will bring you in..let me know when you wanna head out there again I got room for three kayaks.

dc1983 · 05-14-2012, 04:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Adventure

Yeah plan B was heading out like 200 ft of water where people have been doing rockfish reports, but the white caps ended that one!

Can you make smelt on sabiki? are they fairly hardy?

I manage about 7 smelt last weekend in Dana Point. If you ever head down that way hit me up I go out usually once a weekend

bus kid · 05-14-2012, 04:18 PM

go over to BD and message a guy named "tunataxi" he might may be able to get you some Butt.

kobra · 05-14-2012, 09:33 PM

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Originally Posted by bus kid

go over to BD and message a guy named "tunataxi" he might may be able to get you some Butt.

Good advice right there. The guy might be a little like HTBO. But, he does seem to know what he's doing.

jorluivil · 05-14-2012, 09:38 PM

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Originally Posted by bus kid

go over to BD and message a guy named "tunataxi" he might may be able to get you some Butt.

Quote:

Originally Posted by kobra

Good advice right there. The guy might be a little like HTBO. But, he does seem to know what he's doing.

WOOOOOORD.

I HURD HE'S A COOL CAT

GregAndrew · 05-15-2012, 10:10 AM

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Originally Posted by jorluivil

WOOOOOORD.

I HURD HE'S A COOL CAT

Just ask him.

05-14-2012, 11:45 AM	#1
Mr. Adventure Damn Hippy Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Riverside Posts: 311	Observations and questions (halibut) So last Thursday I went out bound and determined to catch my first Halibut. I had the van loaded up and when I got off work at midnight, drove the van down to Newport and slept in till like 7. And boy were the reports off. Wind was about a steady 10mph all day. I get out and could NOT make bait, I would meter some and by the time I dropped I was away from them. I made one little mac, and one sardine and paddled down to the north end of crystal cove. My plan was to troll the back of the surf zone, but that was clearly out of the question. It seems like he kelp has grown since I was last there, right up to the surf zone and the surf was pumping. SO I tried tossing my 1.5oz leadhead to bounce it along the bottom to see if I could get some action but the wind and current just weren't working for me. So i got back in like 50ft of water and trolled back to the harbor. A question, on a day when the wind and current are ripping you just need more weight to stay on the bottom right? I was using a 5 oz and couldn't stay on the bottom. So more weight right? And what should be the angle of the dangle of my line, no more than 45 degree right? When I put on like an 8oz sinker I have a hard time keeping it right, either every swell pulls more line, or I have to put the reel in gear and back off the drag to get it to tug along I totally get why lever drag is used for trolling, just don't have one right now. Trolling between 1-2 mph am I going to fast on this. I also thought I was a clever devil by gooping my ducer at the prow of my yak thinking I would meter stuff and be able to drop on it quicker. Well don't do that, all day I was being slammed up and down and every time my bow lifted out of the water the finder would loose contact and take a 10-30 seconds to get a good reading again. It was really frustrating and maybe contributed to my not finding bait. I REALLY want to land my first Halibut, I've heard that spring time in Crystal Cove is bananas for Halibut. But I've also heard the kelp around Dana Point is great too, maybe I'll give there a go next time.

05-14-2012, 11:56 AM	#2
min-va Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Hacienda Heights Posts: 216	In these kind of wind, maybe should just try drifting instead of trolling, slow down a bit. Free spool, clicker on....and keep drifting~~ and then...zzzzz..zzz.z..z.zz fish on!! __________________ www.vapercompany.com

05-14-2012, 12:29 PM	#6
William Novotny The carpetbagger Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: tha newps Posts: 1,474	On those days I swear alot then go home. But you will have better luck going and jigging around the bait barge for Macs feeding off bait escaping the nets. Then trolling the harbor. Just match your tackle to the size of bait and hope a big hungry flatty is around. I use a6oz to keep the big bait from swimming up __________________ "The charm of fishing is that it is the pursuit of what is elusive but attainable, a perpetual series of occasions for hope." http://www.badinfluencetattoo.com/gallery.php?artist=21

05-14-2012, 04:18 PM	#11
bus kid Team Keine Zugehörigkeit Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Way out there Posts: 2,854	go over to BD and message a guy named "tunataxi" he might may be able to get you some Butt. __________________ Não alimente os trolls------------Don't feed the trolls---------------インタネット荒らしを無視しろ

05-14-2012, 12:14 PM	#3
Mr. Adventure Damn Hippy Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Riverside Posts: 311	yeah, It was my only bait down there and he wasn't looking so hot and I was a little fed up and just jamming back to the harbor.

05-14-2012, 12:28 PM	#4
cobrakid Junior Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: San Diego Posts: 10	the angle of your dangle is crucial.

05-14-2012, 12:41 PM	#7
taggermike Senior Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: Chula Vista Posts: 1,589	I agree with William, some days you just gotta give up or have a plan "B". There can be good halibut fishing inside most harbors and you can make smelt inside too, usually. It kinda depends on my rig and water depth but I like to have the line as verticle as possible. With 6oz or more it's very difficult to slow troll or drift with the clicker on. Spectra lets you use less weight as it drags in the water less. Mike

05-14-2012, 12:45 PM	#8
Mr. Adventure Damn Hippy Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Riverside Posts: 311	Yeah plan B was heading out like 200 ft of water where people have been doing rockfish reports, but the white caps ended that one! Can you make smelt on sabiki? are they fairly hardy?