what kind of squid are these? - Kayak Fishing Adventures on Big Water’s Edge

lowprofile · 12-29-2011, 07:23 PM

Market or humbolt? at LJ today. somebody asked me and i really dont know the difference.

top of one is cut and eyes gone becuase i used it for bait.

T Bone · 12-29-2011, 09:07 PM

they are not market squid...

they look like the ones I see for sale at ranch 99.They dont look like "fresh dead'

Fiskadoro · 12-29-2011, 10:31 PM

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Originally Posted by lowprofile

Market or humbolt? at LJ today. somebody asked me and i really dont know the difference. top of one is cut and eyes gone becuase i used it for bait.

They look a lot like Longfin Squid, the larger ones you see in markets, but if they were caught local they are actually young Dosidicus gigas, Jumbo, or Humbolt squid. Just babies though.

Did you catch them at La Jolla, and did they look red when alive like this?

If you did catch them local, you might want to save one of them and pass it on to Scripp's, as that would be a pretty good indication that Humbolts are now breeding locally and it's the first I have heard of it.

Jim

lowprofile · 12-29-2011, 10:36 PM

ya they were a dark purplish red like the top of that one but with little dark dots.. turned pale white in the bucket then light purple in the sink.

Fiskadoro · 12-29-2011, 10:48 PM

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Originally Posted by lowprofile

ya they were a dark purplish red like the top of that one but with little dark dots.. turned pale white in the bucket then light purple in the sink.

Humbolts no doubt. They change color and color patterns quite a bit, and can vary from red to orange, to black to white. You get the record for the smallest ones. I caught some small ones around five pounds off Dana a few years back but I have never seen little ones like that before.

Jim

dos ballenas · 12-30-2011, 04:01 AM

yea Jim is right they are def Humbolt Squid. The little ones have been around La Jolla of and on for months now.

In regards to their size and spawning, I have found much smaller Humbolt squid in the stomach contents from bluefin, albacore, and even yellowfin tuna caught locally in recent years. Although this still doesn't prove that they are successfully spawning locally. I believe they have found a few adults that were gravid, but it didn't appears that they were actively spawning... but who knows really

Several people are doing research on these guys here in La Jolla... but not at Scripps. The researchers just up the hill from Scripp's at The National Marine Fisheries Southwest Fisheries Science Center are the ones you would want to donate the squid to should you be interested. You can call me and I would gladly pick them up at the launch.

Interestingly enough, the Humbolt that I landed in early December was Loligo opanescnes (market squid). The Humbolts have voracious appetites. I would be making market squid for bait and then out of nowhere they would diappear and it would be WFO jumbos!

oneyedeer · 12-30-2011, 09:50 AM

cuttlefish?

james92026 · 12-30-2011, 10:42 AM

Interesting. What is the suggested method of rigging live or fresh dead squid? Dropper, sliding sinker, flyline? Single hook or trap? Reason I ask is I made up some rigs using sliding snell, but don't really want to take the time to thread a line through the mantle and was thinking to simply hook bottom of the hood, go along the outside of the bottom and slide the snelled hook near the tail.

12-29-2011, 07:23 PM	#1
lowprofile #1 on fishstick's hitlist Join Date: May 2011 Location: Sea level Posts: 1,478	what kind of squid are these? Market or humbolt? at LJ today. somebody asked me and i really dont know the difference. top of one is cut and eyes gone becuase i used it for bait.

12-29-2011, 09:07 PM	#2
T Bone Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Redlands CA Posts: 871	they are not market squid... they look like the ones I see for sale at ranch 99.They dont look like "fresh dead' __________________ Barachit Baralah,Elohim-In the beginning,God-Genesis 1:1 "Who among you,if your son asked for a fish would give them a serpent " Jesus Matt. 7:10

12-30-2011, 04:01 AM	#6
dos ballenas Vampyroteuthis infernalis Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 585	yea Jim is right they are def Humbolt Squid. The little ones have been around La Jolla of and on for months now. In regards to their size and spawning, I have found much smaller Humbolt squid in the stomach contents from bluefin, albacore, and even yellowfin tuna caught locally in recent years. Although this still doesn't prove that they are successfully spawning locally. I believe they have found a few adults that were gravid, but it didn't appears that they were actively spawning... but who knows really Several people are doing research on these guys here in La Jolla... but not at Scripps. The researchers just up the hill from Scripp's at The National Marine Fisheries Southwest Fisheries Science Center are the ones you would want to donate the squid to should you be interested. You can call me and I would gladly pick them up at the launch. Interestingly enough, the Humbolt that I landed in early December was Loligo opanescnes (market squid). The Humbolts have voracious appetites. I would be making market squid for bait and then out of nowhere they would diappear and it would be WFO jumbos! __________________ ____________________________________________

12-29-2011, 10:36 PM	#4
lowprofile #1 on fishstick's hitlist Join Date: May 2011 Location: Sea level Posts: 1,478	ya they were a dark purplish red like the top of that one but with little dark dots.. turned pale white in the bucket then light purple in the sink.

12-30-2011, 09:50 AM	#7
oneyedeer Senior Member Join Date: May 2011 Location: Orange County, ca Posts: 684	cuttlefish?

12-30-2011, 10:42 AM	#8
james92026 Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Escondido CA Posts: 114	Interesting. What is the suggested method of rigging live or fresh dead squid? Dropper, sliding sinker, flyline? Single hook or trap? Reason I ask is I made up some rigs using sliding snell, but don't really want to take the time to thread a line through the mantle and was thinking to simply hook bottom of the hood, go along the outside of the bottom and slide the snelled hook near the tail.