Last weeks catch o the day - Kayak Fishing Adventures on Big Water’s Edge

Kaijuu · 10-18-2015, 03:58 PM

Went out Thursday to a relaxing sea, bait was plentiful and in 3 sabiki drops netted 10 baits. Started trolling 2 baits towards secret spot (somewhere in the Pacific ocean) and get slammed simultaneously by two big ass Boneheads. Lots of fun to tug on but not what I was looking for, not even a tangle between them. First fish on my new Raptor. Reel worked fine but not a big challenge.

Continued paddling towards secret spot avoiding trap buoys but wind and seas were light so not an issue, the clouds were low and thick, the air cool. Forgot to look at sea temp, not that it was gonna change anything. Soaking two baits and looking for trouble, that's when it happened.

First rod goes off, not too strong but a fish nonetheless.. Grabbed the rod, start reeling and then the second rod gets hit, Hard! I figured the new dinner guest was gonna be more important so I holstered the first rod with fish on and grabbed on to the second for a sweet ride around the pond. Thought it may be a fat yeller (30 + pounder) but I was pleasantly wrong. After getting my pig (kayak) towed around for a while at 2.5 mph, still with first fish in tow I got the Ghost to color. My raptor made it seem too easy. My first Ghost and what a ghost he was. At around 60" he was big and slippery. All shiny and dressed for dinner. Turned out to be a great dinner guest along with a few chosen friends. Note: When handling Ghosts, wear gloves,

First fish turned out to be a big sandy so I let em go.

Went out today with the teacher to an all together different scene. Seas were not calm nor the wind. Made bait easily but that was it for me. Water temp at around 72 as a high. Teacher was soaking last bait before heading in when it happened. He gets a big bite, then towed around for quite awhile. I guessed maybe a ray or even a Blacky. Turns out I was right on the Blacky. Probably ran near 70-80 lbs. Pretty tasty stuff. OK, maybe not, so the fish breaks the line at the boat (PA) and we struggle to catch up with him in snotty conditions. Finally got him to swim down with out puncture. All in all a very tiring day but still pretty cool with the black.

I may try again this week if seas calm.

P.S. For you guys hung up on riggins. I now fish spectra with a slider to a swivel with spectra leader to ringed hook. I seem to get bit more with the rings. And the all spectra doesn't mind the obstacles. My spectra is red, as red is first color to disappear at depth. My hook is a 50 cent hook that thinks it's an $15.00 hook. Stupid hook.

Geno Machino · 10-18-2015, 04:50 PM

Awesome catch!

Geno

any pics...

YakDout · 10-18-2015, 05:50 PM

You are using spectra as a leader? Or did I read that wrong.

Kaijuu · 10-18-2015, 06:05 PM

Yes, spectra. Fish cant see it. Knots easily, cuts kelp, good abrasion resistance, same strength as main line. Why not??

If no swivel is necessary, straight spectra to hook.

YakDout · 10-18-2015, 06:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kaijuu

Yes, spectra. Fish cant see it. Knots easily, cuts kelp, good abrasion resistance, same strength as main line. Why not??

If no swivel is necessary, straight spectra to hook.

Do you know at what depth they say red disappears?

Kaijuu · 10-18-2015, 06:17 PM

Loss of color underwater at depth

What color disappears first underwater?

Water absorbs different wavelengths of light to different degrees. The longest wavelengths, with the lowest energy, are absorbed first. Red is the first to be absorbed, followed by orange & yellow. The colors disappear underwater in the same order as they appear in the color spectrum. Even water at 5ft depth will have a noticeable loss of red.

At what depth underwater does color disappear?

Red - 15ft
orange - 25ft
Yellow - 35-45ft
Green - 70-75ft

Iceman · 10-18-2015, 06:59 PM

fishing spectra leader makes no sense to me, surprised your "Ghost" did not tear out the hook with no forgiveness............but hard to argue with success.

60incher belongs in here. http://www.bigwatersedge.com/bwevb/s...ad.php?t=24229

GregAndrew · 10-19-2015, 05:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kaijuu

Loss of color underwater at depth

What color disappears first underwater?

Water absorbs different wavelengths of light to different degrees. The longest wavelengths, with the lowest energy, are absorbed first. Red is the first to be absorbed, followed by orange & yellow. The colors disappear underwater in the same order as they appear in the color spectrum. Even water at 5ft depth will have a noticeable loss of red.

At what depth underwater does color disappear?

Red - 15ft
orange - 25ft
Yellow - 35-45ft
Green - 70-75ft

If you are old enough to remember black and white television, you will realize that the objects do not disappear. They just turn a shade of gray.

YakDout · 10-18-2015, 07:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kaijuu

Yes, spectra. Fish cant see it. Knots easily, cuts kelp, good abrasion resistance, same strength as main line. Why not??

If no swivel is necessary, straight spectra to hook.

Mono is actually much more abrasive resistant than spectra btw.

Deamon · 10-19-2015, 05:03 AM

Way to get it done Keith, big congrats! Not much better than landing a ghost...Jim

chris138 · 10-19-2015, 01:49 PM

Seabass teeth will easily cut through spectra. It has the least abrasion resistance compared w mono and flouro.

10-18-2015, 03:58 PM	#1
Kaijuu "Floater" Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: so cal Posts: 164	Last weeks catch o the day Went out Thursday to a relaxing sea, bait was plentiful and in 3 sabiki drops netted 10 baits. Started trolling 2 baits towards secret spot (somewhere in the Pacific ocean) and get slammed simultaneously by two big ass Boneheads. Lots of fun to tug on but not what I was looking for, not even a tangle between them. First fish on my new Raptor. Reel worked fine but not a big challenge. Continued paddling towards secret spot avoiding trap buoys but wind and seas were light so not an issue, the clouds were low and thick, the air cool. Forgot to look at sea temp, not that it was gonna change anything. Soaking two baits and looking for trouble, that's when it happened. First rod goes off, not too strong but a fish nonetheless.. Grabbed the rod, start reeling and then the second rod gets hit, Hard! I figured the new dinner guest was gonna be more important so I holstered the first rod with fish on and grabbed on to the second for a sweet ride around the pond. Thought it may be a fat yeller (30 + pounder) but I was pleasantly wrong. After getting my pig (kayak) towed around for a while at 2.5 mph, still with first fish in tow I got the Ghost to color. My raptor made it seem too easy. My first Ghost and what a ghost he was. At around 60" he was big and slippery. All shiny and dressed for dinner. Turned out to be a great dinner guest along with a few chosen friends. Note: When handling Ghosts, wear gloves, First fish turned out to be a big sandy so I let em go. Went out today with the teacher to an all together different scene. Seas were not calm nor the wind. Made bait easily but that was it for me. Water temp at around 72 as a high. Teacher was soaking last bait before heading in when it happened. He gets a big bite, then towed around for quite awhile. I guessed maybe a ray or even a Blacky. Turns out I was right on the Blacky. Probably ran near 70-80 lbs. Pretty tasty stuff. OK, maybe not, so the fish breaks the line at the boat (PA) and we struggle to catch up with him in snotty conditions. Finally got him to swim down with out puncture. All in all a very tiring day but still pretty cool with the black. I may try again this week if seas calm. P.S. For you guys hung up on riggins. I now fish spectra with a slider to a swivel with spectra leader to ringed hook. I seem to get bit more with the rings. And the all spectra doesn't mind the obstacles. My spectra is red, as red is first color to disappear at depth. My hook is a 50 cent hook that thinks it's an $15.00 hook. Stupid hook.

10-18-2015, 04:50 PM	#2
Geno Machino "Relax" Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: O'side Posts: 553	Awesome catch! Geno any pics... __________________

10-18-2015, 06:05 PM	#4
Kaijuu "Floater" Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: so cal Posts: 164	Spectra as Leader??? Yes, spectra. Fish cant see it. Knots easily, cuts kelp, good abrasion resistance, same strength as main line. Why not?? If no swivel is necessary, straight spectra to hook.

10-18-2015, 06:17 PM	#6
Kaijuu "Floater" Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: so cal Posts: 164	dissapearing RED spectra Loss of color underwater at depth What color disappears first underwater? Water absorbs different wavelengths of light to different degrees. The longest wavelengths, with the lowest energy, are absorbed first. Red is the first to be absorbed, followed by orange & yellow. The colors disappear underwater in the same order as they appear in the color spectrum. Even water at 5ft depth will have a noticeable loss of red. At what depth underwater does color disappear? Red - 15ft orange - 25ft Yellow - 35-45ft Green - 70-75ft

10-18-2015, 06:59 PM	#7
Iceman Administrator Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: 1-2 miles off the point Posts: 6,943	fishing spectra leader makes no sense to me, surprised your "Ghost" did not tear out the hook with no forgiveness............but hard to argue with success. 60incher belongs in here. http://www.bigwatersedge.com/bwevb/s...ad.php?t=24229 __________________

10-18-2015, 05:50 PM	#3
YakDout Brandon Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: San Diego Posts: 2,345	You are using spectra as a leader? Or did I read that wrong.

10-19-2015, 05:03 AM	#10
Deamon Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 1,972	Way to get it done Keith, big congrats! Not much better than landing a ghost...Jim

10-19-2015, 01:49 PM	#11
chris138 donkey roper Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Pacific Beach Posts: 968	Seabass teeth will easily cut through spectra. It has the least abrasion resistance compared w mono and flouro.