Can You Carry a Concealed Weapon on a Kayak - Kayak Fishing Adventures on Big Water’s Edge

ROOKIE87 · 12-11-2013, 02:49 PM

Hey guys,

Excuse me if i sound like a little B... but this last summer of fishing where whites have been poking up has put me a little on edge. My question to you is if we can carry while on a kayak? If not I was thinking about maybe buying a shark shield. What are your ideas? I thought by buying a hobie proangler I was going to be more safe, but I been hearing the peddles look like flippers in the water.

jorluivil · 12-11-2013, 02:59 PM

Isn't it illegal to kill a GWS?

ROOKIE87 · 12-11-2013, 03:03 PM

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Originally Posted by jorluivil

Isn't it illegal to kill a GWS?

It is absolutely illegal, it would be a last ditch effort if i was getting attacked. And i agree we take the inherent risk because it's their playground, but i always like to be prepared for whatever comes my way. I was even thinking m80's for the vibration, but I do get where you are coming from. I just rather take the precautions if there are any...

maui jim · 12-11-2013, 03:12 PM

I just tell the GWS where team sewer fishes, usually works...

wiredantz · 12-11-2013, 03:14 PM

A flare gun works both ways

ROOKIE87 · 12-11-2013, 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by wiredantz

A flare gun works both ways

Never thought of that... That's a great idea!

dorado50 · 12-11-2013, 03:16 PM

[QUOTE=ROOKIE87;176743]It is absolutely illegal, it would be a last ditch effort if i was getting attacked.

For real?....

ROOKIE87 · 12-11-2013, 03:26 PM

[QUOTE=dorado50;176746]

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Originally Posted by ROOKIE87

It is absolutely illegal, it would be a last ditch effort if i was getting attacked.

For real?....

Yea, absolutely... If it were a possibility...

Aaron&Julie · 12-11-2013, 03:37 PM

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Originally Posted by ROOKIE87

It is absolutely illegal, it would be a last ditch effort if i was getting attacked. And i agree we take the inherent risk because it's their playground, but i always like to be prepared for whatever comes my way. I was even thinking m80's for the vibration, but I do get where you are coming from. I just rather take the precautions if there are any...

Stay on your kayak!

If it's concealed, and a GWS has created a last ditch effort by knocking you out of your kayak, and it is so damn aggresive that you don't have the time to get back up on your kayak, then you don't have time to get your weapon. I can remount in less than 30 seconds, probably 5 seconds if a GWS just knocked me into the drink, which is much quicker than trying to get out the "concealed weapon". If you can't remount in 30 seconds, that is what you need to practice on, now.

If he capsized the kayak you won't be able to get to your weapon easily, either, and your best bet would be to jump up onto the bottom of your kayak and lay there until it leaves, after it realizes you're not the food it hoped for. Either way you're screwed when it comes to locating/using a "concealed weapon".

Just my 2 cents.

Aaron

ROOKIE87 · 12-11-2013, 03:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Aaron&Julie

Stay on your kayak!

If it's concealed, and a GWS has created a last ditch effort by knocking you out of your kayak, and it is so damn aggresive that you don't have the time to get back up on your kayak, then you don't have time to get your weapon. I can remount in less than 30 seconds, probably 5 seconds if a GWS just knocked me into the drink, which is much quicker than trying to get out the "concealed weapon". If you can't remount in 30 seconds, that is what you need to practice on, now.

If he capsized the kayak you won't be able to get to your weapon easily, either, and your best bet would be to jump up onto the bottom of your kayak and lay there until it leaves, after it realizes you're not the food it hoped for. Either way you're screwed when it comes to locating/using a "concealed weapon".

Just my 2 cents.

Aaron

thanks for the insite brotha, I was thinking a glock like in my life jacket so I would be in the water with it.

maui jim · 12-11-2013, 04:02 PM

I have been giving some thought....

I say you go ask for advise form the "Seal Lady" by the Children's Pool in La Jolla, and ask the always kind, always warm and friendly, and ever knowing "Seal Lady" be sure to show her what you will be using, there might be a caliber restriction, but she will know.. She will most likely sign off on this... and presto...changeo...All Good!!
She does have alot of pull with the local authorties, since she is a pillar of the community.

Just a thought..

Cadillyak · 12-11-2013, 02:59 PM

Personally, I worry about the ones that I don't see more than the ones that I do see. I think that most know what they are getting into when launching into the ocean. There are still creatures popping up that have never been seen before. It's a risk we all take as kayakers. It's like race car driving and knowing that there is always that possibility, but you still do it because it is what you love. But as I digress, I am not sure you can carry conceal on a kayak.

easyday · 12-11-2013, 06:26 PM

you would have to carry a very large caliber high powered rifle to even puncture the skin, or maybe a shotgun. Bullets dont work well under water at all, which is where you would be, and if your that worried stay off the water......

jorluivil · 12-11-2013, 06:30 PM

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Originally Posted by easyday

you would have to carry a very large caliber high powered rifle to even puncture the skin, or maybe a shotgun. Bullets dont work well under water at all, which is where you would be, and if your that worried stay off the water......

My old boss used to say, "Always expect the worst, if nothing bad happens than it was a good day"

ROOKIE87 · 12-11-2013, 06:35 PM

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Originally Posted by easyday

you would have to carry a very large caliber high powered rifle to even puncture the skin, or maybe a shotgun. Bullets dont work well under water at all, which is where you would be, and if your that worried stay off the water......

I know I'm new here but all I asked was a simple question as I'm ignorant on the subject and anyone would be lying if they never thought of this. But yea man after seeing the sewer bass fishing video I think ill just give away my pro angler

kayachapi · 12-11-2013, 06:49 PM

I got to work in Monterey for 18 months about 10 yrs ago. I started spearfishing for something to do while staying away from home. Wetsuit and all my gear was black, could only go in the afternoon/evening, and if I was lucky (because I wasn't good) I was trailing blood. A surfer was bitten just north of where I was, and thats when I found out on the radio those were the three things not to do, to avoid being attacked. I wasn't able to change a lot of what I was doing, but was definitely more aware of my surroundings. Never saw a big grey suburban swim by me. Just lucky? Loved it up there. But I'm definitely getting rid of those air fresheners!

12-11-2013, 07:22 PM

Surprised this hasn't been mentioned before but here goes.

Carry and modified Powerhead if you are seriously concerned. As far as I know they are legal to carry when diving because only until they are mounted on the shaft of the spear are they considered a firearm and if you're mounting it, you're in danger.

Look up some more info on them because I could be wrong. You can make them quite easily, and I feel like you could easily modify one to work on a gaff.

I have a .40 Powerhead I've dove with after a Mako encounter last summer.

Additionally, you could carry a powerhead with a blank round and skip all the legal BS. The bang, and pressure alone would keep any moving creature away

bus kid · 12-12-2013, 06:49 AM

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Originally Posted by easyday

you would have to carry a very large caliber high powered rifle to even puncture the skin, or maybe a shotgun. Bullets dont work well under water at all, which is where you would be, and if your that worried stay off the water......

AK

Put yourself in the sharks fins. Imagine if you were sitting at home minding your own business.You get up to get a bite to ear and some jacka$$ in Tupperware comes in your house and busted a cap in your coolo.

Your in his house. Respect if you cant do that fish Irvine lake.

jruiz · 12-12-2013, 08:46 AM

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Originally Posted by bus kid

AK

Put yourself in the sharks fins. Imagine if you were sitting at home minding your own business.You get up to get a bite to ear and some jacka$$ in Tupperware comes in your house and busted a cap in your coolo.

Your in his house. Respect if you cant do that fish Irvine lake.

Amen. Whether it's with sharks in the water or bears/lions/chupacabras in the forest. People forget that they're out there for fun. These creatures are out there doing what they naturally do. Just because they interrupt your fun doesn't give you any right to put them down. If you do then you need to get over yourself.

wiredantz · 12-12-2013, 08:53 AM

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Originally Posted by jruiz

Amen. Whether it's with sharks in the water or bears/lions/chupacabras in the forest. People forget that they're out there for fun. These creatures are out there doing what they naturally do. Just because they interrupt your fun doesn't give you any right to put them down. If you do then you need to get over yourself.

That is exactly right, when i go camping i expect to see bears.

Now, if a bear approaches i'll try to scare it off.

If it attacks, its a different story.

plain and simple

That is the difference between the people who survive, and the people who do not.

12-11-2013, 02:49 PM	#1
ROOKIE87 Member Join Date: Dec 2013 Location: Santa Fe Springs Posts: 42	Can You Carry a Concealed Weapon on a Kayak Hey guys, Excuse me if i sound like a little B... but this last summer of fishing where whites have been poking up has put me a little on edge. My question to you is if we can carry while on a kayak? If not I was thinking about maybe buying a shark shield. What are your ideas? I thought by buying a hobie proangler I was going to be more safe, but I been hearing the peddles look like flippers in the water.

12-11-2013, 02:59 PM	#2
jorluivil Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 6,856	Isn't it illegal to kill a GWS? __________________ www.facebook.com/Teamsewer

12-11-2013, 03:12 PM	#4
maui jim Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Cypress, CA Posts: 789	I just tell the GWS where team sewer fishes, usually works... __________________

12-11-2013, 03:14 PM	#5
wiredantz Currently @ MLO Territory Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Under the Shadow Posts: 2,290	A flare gun works both ways __________________ Team: Disbanded You only have one chance in this life...make the right decision(s)...so you don't regret it

12-11-2013, 04:02 PM	#11
maui jim Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Cypress, CA Posts: 789	I have been giving some thought.... I say you go ask for advise form the "Seal Lady" by the Children's Pool in La Jolla, and ask the always kind, always warm and friendly, and ever knowing "Seal Lady" be sure to show her what you will be using, there might be a caliber restriction, but she will know.. She will most likely sign off on this... and presto...changeo...All Good!! She does have alot of pull with the local authorties, since she is a pillar of the community. Just a thought.. __________________

12-11-2013, 03:16 PM	#7
dorado50 Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: La Jolla Shores Posts: 1,626	[QUOTE=ROOKIE87;176743]It is absolutely illegal, it would be a last ditch effort if i was getting attacked. For real?....

12-11-2013, 02:59 PM	#12
Cadillyak Team Get $$ Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 841	Personally, I worry about the ones that I don't see more than the ones that I do see. I think that most know what they are getting into when launching into the ocean. There are still creatures popping up that have never been seen before. It's a risk we all take as kayakers. It's like race car driving and knowing that there is always that possibility, but you still do it because it is what you love. But as I digress, I am not sure you can carry conceal on a kayak. __________________ The "Y" is silent 2012 Olive PA 12 2011 Papaya Outback

12-11-2013, 06:26 PM	#13
easyday Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: Oceanside Posts: 1,469	you would have to carry a very large caliber high powered rifle to even puncture the skin, or maybe a shotgun. Bullets dont work well under water at all, which is where you would be, and if your that worried stay off the water...... __________________

12-11-2013, 06:49 PM	#16
kayachapi Member Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Tehachapi Posts: 81	Air Fresheners! I got to work in Monterey for 18 months about 10 yrs ago. I started spearfishing for something to do while staying away from home. Wetsuit and all my gear was black, could only go in the afternoon/evening, and if I was lucky (because I wasn't good) I was trailing blood. A surfer was bitten just north of where I was, and thats when I found out on the radio those were the three things not to do, to avoid being attacked. I wasn't able to change a lot of what I was doing, but was definitely more aware of my surroundings. Never saw a big grey suburban swim by me. Just lucky? Loved it up there. But I'm definitely getting rid of those air fresheners!

12-11-2013, 07:22 PM	#17
Drake Guest Posts: n/a	Surprised this hasn't been mentioned before but here goes. Carry and modified Powerhead if you are seriously concerned. As far as I know they are legal to carry when diving because only until they are mounted on the shaft of the spear are they considered a firearm and if you're mounting it, you're in danger. Look up some more info on them because I could be wrong. You can make them quite easily, and I feel like you could easily modify one to work on a gaff. I have a .40 Powerhead I've dove with after a Mako encounter last summer. Additionally, you could carry a powerhead with a blank round and skip all the legal BS. The bang, and pressure alone would keep any moving creature away