Trolling distance.

[Jimmyz123]

When you troll, how far back to you run your lines? I know how far back on a boat, but I've never trolled from a Kayak.

I know most of the time the bait is fly lined with no weight, does anyone ever put little egg sinkers on to force the bait down a little?

Thanks for the info in advance.

[mtnbykr2]

Originally Posted by Jimmyz123

When you troll, how far back to you run your lines? I know how far back on a boat, but I've never trolled from a Kayak.

I know most of the time the bait is fly lined with no weight, does anyone ever put little egg sinkers on to force the bait down a little?

Thanks for the info in advance.

I imagine you are talking about trolling a mack in LJ for the YT, I was fortunate enough to spend a day with Jim Sammons there last year and he told me about 60 feet behind you should just about do it, now as far as a bit of weight to get er down in to a strike zone would be ok...
There is also some new braid out with color, I can't remember the post right now, but it was only a couple days ago in here, which if I had known about it before I loaded a new reel with spectra and a top shot, I probably would have opted for that instead. I know there is a formula for x amount of feet out=y amount of feet down, I am sure somebody knows that one...
A friend of mine trolls with a rubber core 16-18 inches above the bait, he catches fish with that rig...food for thought

[Jimmyz123]

You are correct I was referring to trolling a Mac or greenback in La Jolla. I think I remember reading the 60 feet back thing somewhere before. Thank you for the info and it makes perfect sense to me.

Is this the braid you were talking about
http://www.texasbasstackle.com/scrip...p?idproduct=95

I have used the egg sinkers, rubber cores, and all that when fly lining from a boat, but seeing how our Yaks don't go too fast I wouldn't hold back on using some there either.

[mtnbykr2]

no,
that's not it, it is called Power Pro Depth Hunter, it is posted a couple days ago...I don't know if I would load a reel with sinking braid unless I had a rig especially for that line...b

[Matt]

40 to 60' back powerpro to swivel with halibut slider with a 1 to 2 oz torpedo sinker to 6' 20 to 30 lb flouro leader........the search function will answer alot of these questions, not hating just stating.

[Jimmyz123]

Originally Posted by Matt

40 to 60' back powerpro to swivel with halibut slider with a 1 to 2 oz torpedo sinker to 6' 20 to 30 lb flouro leader........the search function will answer alot of these questions, not hating just stating.

Thanks Matt, this is what I have on my bottom rig, I like this setup very much. It's going to be fun to see how well it works on a Yak.

[Fiskadoro]

Originally Posted by Jimmyz123

You are correct I was referring to trolling a Mac or greenback in La Jolla.

For macks I like to troll with a 1 ounce egg Carolina rigged with a swivel and then three feet of line. As for distance back I drop it down to the bottom turn a crank or two then troll that distance back. The idea being if I come up on a mark, stop to drop iron on it the bait will slowly sink keeping the line tight until it's right off the bottom right on the mark. When I start back up it travels back up the water column until it's about ten feet under the surface if I'm paddling hard. This way you fish the whole range of depth with the bait and the line is never slack and the bait is never right on the bottom so you get less tangles or hang ups. If the fish are deep with nothing near the surface I'll troll the same thing with a four ounce egg, it will stay deeper and pull under you faster but it's the same deal where the line never goes slack.

Just may take... more then one way to skin that catfish.

Jim

[Jimmyz123]

Originally Posted by Jim Day

For macks I like to troll with a 1 ounce egg Carolina rigged with a swivel and then three feet of line. As for distance back I drop it down to the bottom turn a crank or two then troll that distance back. The idea being if I come up on a mark, stop to drop iron on it the bait will slowly sink keeping the line tight until it's right off the bottom right on the mark. When I start back up it travels back up the water column until it's about ten feet under the surface if I'm paddling hard. This way you fish the whole range of depth with the bait and the line is never slack and the bait is never right on the bottom so you get less tangles or hang ups. If the fish are deep with nothing near the surface I'll troll the same thing with a four ounce egg, it will stay deeper and pull under you faster but it's the same deal where the line never goes slack.

Just may take... more then one way to skin that catfish.

Jim

Thanks for that tip, I may try that this weekend, it makes a lot of sense and like you said the bait is being fished in all levels of the water column. Thank you again.

[Matt]

The only down side to an egg sinker on spectra is that quite often the egg sinker will start to fray the spectra, whereas the plastic sleeve on the halibut slider will not cause the spectra to fray. I'm not saying this always happens but I've seen guys lose fish due to the spectra fraying, and like the old saying goes "your only as strong as your weakest link" in this case knot.



* and no Jim I don't want to have a debate about this hahaha