Kayak Fishing Adventures on Big Water’s Edge  

Go Back   Kayak Fishing Adventures on Big Water’s Edge > Kayak Fishing Forum - Message Board > General Kayak Fishing Discussion

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 12-30-2010, 11:34 PM   #1
Fiskadoro
.......
 
Fiskadoro's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Posts: 1,509
A PFD knife revisited...

I'm kind of nuts about safety since I like to paddle alone. After a discussion about PFD safety knives here at BWE I rethought the idea, and essentially bought one for my vest. It's a Spyderco hawkbill or more technically a Byrd Crossbill folder, which I got from Sierra Trading Post during one of their daily sales, for $13.

Just got it today, and I'm already very pleased.


Did a little demo vid which you can see here:






The deal with a safety knife for me is I wanted something that could cut me loose in a hurry if I tangled in a rope or line in the water, but that I could carry kind of hassle free. So the knife is just what I wanted. It fits great on the vest, no sheath, easy to use one handed, light weight, low profile, big enough blade to do the job....etc. So I can clip it to my vest when yakking, it's easy to get to, and I have the safety of a good knife without the bulk of a sheath knife.

Works for me..


Jim

Last edited by Fiskadoro; 12-31-2010 at 12:17 AM.
Fiskadoro is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-31-2010, 12:24 AM   #2
f'nsabiki
Senior Member
 
f'nsabiki's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Posts: 309
the new "Billy Mays"
f'nsabiki is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-31-2010, 08:31 AM   #3
driftwood
Senior Member
 
driftwood's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: SAN DIEGO
Posts: 1,086
Good life saving info. Got a little scared looking at this video. Never seen a
kayak ninja man.
driftwood is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-02-2011, 07:54 AM   #4
wiredantz
Currently @ MLO Territory
 
wiredantz's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: Under the Shadow
Posts: 2,290
Quote:
Originally Posted by driftwood View Post
Good life saving info. Got a little scared looking at this video. Never seen a
kayak ninja man.


LOL... Ninja man = Priceless


I didn't know what to expect when i first say his video.
wiredantz is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-07-2011, 08:40 AM   #5
wiredantz
Currently @ MLO Territory
 
wiredantz's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: Under the Shadow
Posts: 2,290
The knife looks pretty good, you can use it in case a white shark tries to take a bite out of your kayak.
wiredantz is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-31-2010, 08:31 AM   #6
Socalrobt
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: Chico/Anaheim
Posts: 101
Hey, Jim. Do you have the part number for that knife? Thank you.
Socalrobt is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-31-2010, 10:04 AM   #7
lterrero
Leo
 
lterrero's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: La Jolla, CA
Posts: 482
Thanks for the post Jim.
lterrero is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-31-2010, 10:11 AM   #8
Iceman
Administrator
 
Iceman's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: 1-2 miles off the point
Posts: 6,948
Loved the cameo walk on from Rin Tin Tin
__________________
Iceman is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-31-2010, 12:12 PM   #9
Billy V
Senior Member
 
Billy V's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Bay Ho
Posts: 1,382
Do you have 9 or 10 feet of grade 70 transportation chain in that vest ?
lmao.

Love the video. Kind of a spinoff of De Niro

__________________
Billy V is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-31-2010, 01:20 PM   #10
THE DARKHORSE
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Seven minutes from the launch!
Posts: 987
Ha!

And I thought I had too much spare time on my hands

In Jim's defense, though, at least he goes fishing on a regular basis and, for the most part, knows what he's doing. Unlike the majority of the safety squad and tinker'rs around here.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
I've never carried a knife on the kayak (unless I know I'm going to be chumming for hours on end). Then again, I'm pretty good at not getting wrapped up in loose lines and don't have a great fear of the unknown.

While I appreciate all the go, go, go-safety guys (ya' know, guys who bring multiple GPS units, multiple radios, flares, two bilge pumps, extra batteries just in case?)---we're not exactly roping Great White Sharks!

Kayak fishing is as dangerous as you make it, I guess .
__________________
THE DARKHORSE is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-31-2010, 01:50 PM   #11
dorado50
Senior Member
 
dorado50's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: La Jolla Shores
Posts: 1,626
X2... most guys are trying to squeeze the Queen Mary into their kayaks instead of fishing.WTF. A folding knife will almost all the time take two hands to unfold, I'll take any straight knife anytime.
dorado50 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-31-2010, 02:15 PM   #12
Nic D
Senior Member
 
Nic D's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Clairemont
Posts: 813
quick search found this knife http://www.outdoorplay.com/Stohlquis...shoppingdotcom

from this site http://www.thefind.com/sports/info-squeeze-lock-knife
Nic D is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-31-2010, 04:19 PM   #13
Iceman
Administrator
 
Iceman's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: 1-2 miles off the point
Posts: 6,948
there's more than 1 way to............

__________________
Iceman is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-31-2010, 04:49 PM   #14
jorluivil
Senior Member
 
jorluivil's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2010
Posts: 6,856
Quote:
Originally Posted by Iceman View Post
there's more than 1 way to............



If there's anything that I like...I mean really really like, its humor.
jorluivil is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-31-2010, 05:09 PM   #15
BT
Senior Member
 
BT's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: San Carlos
Posts: 202
Thats not a knife, THIS is a knife!


one thing I will point out from your video, and this isn't knocking you at all just what I saw, is that you acted in a panic wrapping your hand up, but as soon as went for your knife you acted calm when opening it up and cutting your rope. train how you fight, fight how you train. I am not saying go out and put yourself in a dangerous situation, but everyone should keep in mind that once panic and fear truly sets in, your brain reacts to the situation differently than it normally would. Keep in mind that you may not have the motor skills to open that knife one handed once you really begin to panic.

other than that, I say nice knife! You can tell it is definitely sharp by how it went thru that rope. I am a knife guy. People were commenting on prices of knives, but there are reasons some knives are expensive. I have never gotten a sale knife at Big 5 that has lasted more than 3 months. But I have a Spyderco that has lasted 10 years.

I have a handful of great knives, and a bunch of crap ones, but I when I fish (from a boat or a yak) I have a folding knife and a filet knife. On my yak the filet knife is by my left hand, and the folding knife is in my pant or wader pockets. I would think a decent filet knife would cut through kelp or rope if it is kept sharp. You can get an easy to use sharpener for a couple of bucks, and when you are out fishing you should always keep your edge sharp.

I am also a flashlight guy...and if I told you how much I have paid for some of my flash lights you would look at me like I have three heads. But in my line of work, we have a saying, "one light is no light, two lights is one light, and three lights is a minimum."
__________________
if your brain had fists, you could only hurt yourself!
BT is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-01-2011, 07:36 AM   #16
WahooUSMA
Senior Member
 
WahooUSMA's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Rancho Cucamonga
Posts: 753
Quote:
Originally Posted by Iceman View Post
there's more than 1 way to............

Hahaha funny, Andy.

I carried a Spyderco knife for many years. Best knife to cut away a seat belt, or commence with some great bodily injury. Don't think I would carry something like that on a yak for fear I might injure myself, or have the blade open up while I am being tossed in the surf. Yes, after time the blade will loosen, if not tightened regularly. If and when I carry a knife, its usually just the cheap plastic handle bait knife from Long Fin or local tackle store.
__________________
GO ARMY BEAT NAVY!
Bad decisions make great stories!

WahooUSMA is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-01-2011, 03:33 AM   #17
Fiskadoro
.......
 
Fiskadoro's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Posts: 1,509
Quote:
Originally Posted by THE DARKHORSE View Post
.... in Jim's defense...... at least he goes fishing on a regular basis and, for the most part, knows what he's doing.....
So they tell me...

Quote:
Originally Posted by THE DARKHORSE View Post
I've never carried a knife on the kayak....... Then again, I'm pretty good at not getting wrapped up in loose lines and don't have a great fear of the unknown.....
I hear that.

Actually there is kind of a tongue and cheek aspect to my post and video, but you know how it is: no-one ever get's my sense of humor.

I've been fishing small craft near and offshore for a few decades now in So. Cal. Often way offshore. I've been caught in storms even gales with forty to sixty knot winds. You know how many times I have needed a knife in a emergency situation? Not once!

The closest to an emergency I've used a knife is when I had to cut a hoopnet rope off some other knuckleheads prop after he ran over my hoonet

Irritating as hell but not all that dangerous.

Saltwater Kayak fishing is not white water rafting. Its not like your going to get tangled in a web of gear ropes then get beat to death as the raft runs the rapids out of control.

Like I said in the other post..... I use a knife on the kayak for only a few basic things. Cutting bait, gutting fish, or sometimes stabbing it deep into halibut, or T sharks to severe their spinal column to incapacitate them.

My take is there is nothing wrong with clipping a knife to your vest, and yes maybe in a emergency situation a knife might come in handy, but if I'm going to carry a knife I want it to be a real knife that's balanced has a point and feels good in my hand.

A knife is just a tool, and I like good tools. My new knife will probably do more damage to halibut then any ropes that cross my path. Hey and look on the bright side... If I end up in the water far offshore, drifting in my PFD waiting for the inevitable scavengers to come, at least I'll have something to stick in their eye before they chew my leg off.




"From hell's heart I stab at thee; for hate's sake I spit my last breath at thee. Ye damned whale. "

Last edited by Fiskadoro; 01-01-2011 at 03:51 AM.
Fiskadoro is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-07-2011, 04:52 PM   #18
DESTROYER
Senior Member
 
DESTROYER's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: "The Table"
Posts: 976
Quote:
Originally Posted by THE DARKHORSE View Post
While I appreciate all the go, go, go-safety guys (ya' know, guys who bring multiple GPS units, multiple radios, flares, two bilge pumps, extra batteries just in case?)---we're not exactly roping Great White Sharks!

Kayak fishing is as dangerous as you make it, I guess .

This coming from a Guide.LOL! I guess you're a good swimmer

I know where you coming from, but I never knock the over prepared kayak fisherman because I know it will come back and bite me in the ass.

Nice Video Jim. I think that same knife saved Rob Sanford's life when his Defiance Boat capsized on a wave coming into the MB Channel. His automatic floatation PFD had him trap in the pilot house and if he didn't have a knife on him, he would have died. Thanks for sharing.


Moyer

Last edited by DESTROYER; 01-08-2011 at 10:58 AM.
DESTROYER is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-08-2011, 10:25 AM   #19
Jim Sammons LJKF
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: San Diego CA
Posts: 947
Kind of what I was thinking Matt, is it really a good idea to give people a hard time about wanting to be safe. Particularly when you are in a position of people trying to follow your example.

For the record I normally have a knife on board but not on my PFD. On my PFD I usually keep a hook knife. They are great for quickly cutting line and you never have to worry about getting stuck or cutting your PFD.
This is the one I have from Benchmade. I see they now have some new ones that I may have to take a look at that may be better for the kayak.
http://www.benchmade.com/products/8
__________________
Jim Sammons
La Jolla Kayak Fishing
The Kayak Fishing Show
JimSammons.com
Jim Sammons LJKF is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-10-2011, 10:53 PM   #20
BT
Senior Member
 
BT's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: San Carlos
Posts: 202
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jim Sammons LJKF View Post
This is the one I have from Benchmade. I see they now have some new ones that I may have to take a look at that may be better for the kayak.
http://www.benchmade.com/products/8
I was trying to find those earlier but was thinking spyderco and not benchmade. We use these at work, and they cut thru anything.

I like the 9 CB carabiner. Has a blade cover, carabiner clip, AND a bottle opener.

Those are great tools and have used them to rip seat belts, web gear and clothing off with ease. Great yak application.
__________________
if your brain had fists, you could only hurt yourself!
BT is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -8. The time now is 09:11 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
© 2002 Big Water's Edge. All rights reserved.