Scupper type cart question

[T Bone]

I need a new cart and was thinking of building the scupper type.I heard from somewhere that they can damage the scuppers.Has anyone had this experience?If you have one do you like it?

[tony]

The seam in the middle of the scupper hole tubes is the weakest part of the kayak mold. Constant jarring and banging within those scupper tubes could break the seam and start a leak.If you dont frequently go a lot of distance with the cart it probably doesnt matter, but if you develop a leak later its probably the scupper tubes. If you want to be super safe, pad the poles that go thru the scuppers as well as the area of the cart where the kayak sits, and perhaps goop the scupper tubes from inside your kayak. Scupper tube leaks can also develop from cranking down too hard on your vehicle tie down straps.The scupper carts are fast and easy, so it might save you that valuable minute or so when a cold beer is screaming your name at the landing. Unless you like building your own stuff it might be easier and about the same price to find a used one (scupper or sit on/with strap). I built one from PVC and it kind of sucked, but others on this site that are more mechanically inclined have had success.

[miguelitro]

two things-

I make my own carts by bending tube to fit an axle, custom for each kayak. really easy to make with the right tools, just a little heavy, but hey less likely to get stolen.
I have no pics right now, i should get some!
If you are still in need i will probably have some time soon if you are still looking. I usually charge beer and materials but it will last forever

secondly-
Your sig is awesome! The mayor of Law St. starts our xmas brunch prayer with that every year(for the last 25 years minus a couple) and it made me smile with a flood of the great memories!

Mike

[ronbo613]

I've built scupper dollies and cradle dollies. Scupper dollies are fine; but cradle dollies are better; you can use them with any kayak.
Make your own decision: you can make either one yourself.

[dgax65]

I have no personal experience with the scupper-type carts, but i have seen more than a few reports on various forums of damaged/leaking scuppers as a result of using this type of cart. The scuppers are the weakest part of your kayak, so why would you want to subject them to repeated wear and shock? A standard cart would probably be better.

BTW; there are at least two AKFF members who have launched with the scupper carts still installed. They couldn't figure out where all the drag was coming from until they got back to the ramp.

[Quilted Germ]

So much easier to just go buy a dolly type. I've experienced the damaged scupper due to the scupper type and had to have it professionally fixed....just not even worth the arguement....IMO, that is....