New to So Cal, Newb Yak Fisherman looking for 1st SlayRide - Kayak Fishing Adventures on Big Water’s Edge

Freespool · 05-21-2009, 02:56 PM

Hello all,
After lurking around for a bit and doing a little research, I'm finally posting in search of my first kayak for fishing. I'm new to the area via Seattle, grew up in Nor Cal, and moved here less than a month ago to start a new job. I've fished since I was a kid but never from a kayak, only from a canoe in protected nearshore waters off a spot or two up north and lakes. Most of my fishing up north was steelheading and salmon fishing and a lot of that was with fly rods. Now that I'm here, I'm already having steelheading/salmon fishing withdrawals and I'm ready to try a new style of fishing. I've caught tuna and billfish out on charters and party boats a few times but only 1 yellowtail off the Coronados a few years back while visiting a friend down here. I've never caught a white seabass, never a halibut.

Anyways, I missed that xfactor that was just sold recently on this board. That seemed like a good deal. I may be looking at a used Cobra Fish N Dive 12.5' with rod holders, bait tank, fish finder, paddle, 2 seats, and a few other goodies for $700 this weekend. If it doesn't sell before I can get to it, this seems like a great first kayak for me with its stability and capacity. So, if anyone here has a kayak they want to sell that they think might be a good first fishing kayak for La Jolla as well as taking up north to SF Bay and other nearshore areas throughout CA,

. Thanks in advance for any offers or advice!
Jon

LORENZ · 05-21-2009, 03:15 PM

http://www.bigwatersedge.com/bwevb/s...ead.php?t=5026

Holy Mackerel · 05-21-2009, 03:39 PM

Welcome Joe!

You are looking at some big man kayaks. Are you a big guy? I just ask because both Malibu, and Cobra make smaller beamed, and faster kayaks, ala X-13, and Marauder respectively.

One thing you can learn is stability, but never gain speed. I am not knocking those models, plenty of people are perfectly happy paddling those, and caught plenty of BIG

Just offering my perspective on a paddling, I believe you can demo kayaks at OEX, and other shops to find the right one for you.

hope this helps,

chris

JD · 05-21-2009, 04:00 PM

I completely agree with Chris! If you're a big guy (meaning 6'2 250lbs) the X-factor is the boat for you! It is very stable, sturdy, and solid as a rock but it is slow as hell. For gods sake, you can stand up in the thing. If you're paddling next to any other boat, you will not be able to keep up!

If you fish solo, like i typically do, you won't notice the slugglishness of the X-factor nearly as much. But you will notice how damn heavy it is when you are loading it in your truck. Not a bad boat, but they all have pros an cons.

Spend the time, ask questions and try to paddle around some demos. I know the OEX guys in Point Loma don't mind loaning out boats to try out @ shelter island.

If you're at all average in size you may want to consider a trident (prowler) or a tarpon 150 or 160. Hobies seem pretty cool too, but I don't know much about them other than they seem expensive to me.

My $0.02

Gino · 05-21-2009, 04:16 PM

X-factors are a great boat. I own one now and currently looking to sell it soon.

X-factors have + and -, They are super stable, and have a good keel undernieth so they stay straight in the water when paddling. The front hatch is awsoem for stuffing a big halibut inthier without any trouble. They have decent storage. and surf launch and land pretty well.

The ugly things are they definately are slow. The back hatch on Older X-factors back hatch sits kinda low in the water line near the scepper holes. So if your a bigger dude, with a bait tank you possible could have a problem with water getting intot he back hatch. (im 300lbs 6'3 so it has been a small issue for me, witch is why im selling it) I only take on water maybe every 5th trip or so. And its hardly enough water to notice anything differant in the kayak. They are longer with more bottom keel. So they are much harder to turn. And are one of the heavier kayaks to move around (not a problem for a big guy)

X-Factors in general are an awsome kayak to get as your first boat. Very stable till you get your kayak legs and balance up!

If you have the pocket book, Look into the Stealth - 14 its basically an x-factor with a differant interior design and and a live bait tank made molded in. Very nice kayak!

Freespool · 05-21-2009, 05:08 PM

Thanks for all the info guys. It really is appreciated. I'm sure you get new guys all the time asking "what kind of kayak should I get" so sorry to be one of those. I guess maybe I should head over to OEX this weekend and try paddling a few around.

I'm not that big of a dude, more average I guess (6'1", 175-180 lbs.). From doing some reading, ideally I think I might want a WS Tarpon 140 but brand new they're a bit pricey. Because I'm new to the sport and on a budget, I feel like I should try to get a decent deal on something used. I plan to do quite a bit of fishing so I don't want something on it's last legs. I just want something fairly user friendly.

Freespool · 05-21-2009, 05:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JD

If you're at all average in size you may want to consider a trident (prowler) or a tarpon 150 or 160. Hobies seem pretty cool too, but I don't know much about them other than they seem expensive to me.

My $0.02

Just out of curiosity, why a tarpon 150 or 160 over a 140? Just for speed with the extra length?

Holy Mackerel · 05-21-2009, 05:44 PM

The longer paddle kayaks are going to have more glide, but your decision may be based on storage. Are you in an apt, or house with a garage?

I am about your size, but plus 20lbs.

Again, not saying Xfactor, or FnD would not be a great fishing platform.

At your size, I'd look at:

prowler 13,15 or trident

malibu Pro explorer, X-13, stealth 14

tarpon 120, 140 or 160

cobra marauder, navigator, tourer

maybe Josh, Nate, will b., Rooster, Steveooo can recommend a Hobie, I havent peddled any.

05-21-2009, 02:56 PM	#1
Freespool Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: La Jolla Posts: 42	New to So Cal, Newb Yak Fisherman looking for 1st SlayRide Hello all, After lurking around for a bit and doing a little research, I'm finally posting in search of my first kayak for fishing. I'm new to the area via Seattle, grew up in Nor Cal, and moved here less than a month ago to start a new job. I've fished since I was a kid but never from a kayak, only from a canoe in protected nearshore waters off a spot or two up north and lakes. Most of my fishing up north was steelheading and salmon fishing and a lot of that was with fly rods. Now that I'm here, I'm already having steelheading/salmon fishing withdrawals and I'm ready to try a new style of fishing. I've caught tuna and billfish out on charters and party boats a few times but only 1 yellowtail off the Coronados a few years back while visiting a friend down here. I've never caught a white seabass, never a halibut. Anyways, I missed that xfactor that was just sold recently on this board. That seemed like a good deal. I may be looking at a used Cobra Fish N Dive 12.5' with rod holders, bait tank, fish finder, paddle, 2 seats, and a few other goodies for $700 this weekend. If it doesn't sell before I can get to it, this seems like a great first kayak for me with its stability and capacity. So, if anyone here has a kayak they want to sell that they think might be a good first fishing kayak for La Jolla as well as taking up north to SF Bay and other nearshore areas throughout CA, . Thanks in advance for any offers or advice! Jon

05-21-2009, 04:00 PM	#4
JD Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Normal Hts Posts: 62	X-Factor I completely agree with Chris! If you're a big guy (meaning 6'2 250lbs) the X-factor is the boat for you! It is very stable, sturdy, and solid as a rock but it is slow as hell. For gods sake, you can stand up in the thing. If you're paddling next to any other boat, you will not be able to keep up! If you fish solo, like i typically do, you won't notice the slugglishness of the X-factor nearly as much. But you will notice how damn heavy it is when you are loading it in your truck. Not a bad boat, but they all have pros an cons. Spend the time, ask questions and try to paddle around some demos. I know the OEX guys in Point Loma don't mind loaning out boats to try out @ shelter island. If you're at all average in size you may want to consider a trident (prowler) or a tarpon 150 or 160. Hobies seem pretty cool too, but I don't know much about them other than they seem expensive to me. My $0.02 __________________ Back home we got a taxidermy man. He gonna have a heart attack when he see what I brung him.

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05-21-2009, 03:15 PM	#2
LORENZ Junior Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 19	http://www.bigwatersedge.com/bwevb/s...ead.php?t=5026

05-21-2009, 03:39 PM	#3
Holy Mackerel Señor member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 1,627	Welcome Joe! You are looking at some big man kayaks. Are you a big guy? I just ask because both Malibu, and Cobra make smaller beamed, and faster kayaks, ala X-13, and Marauder respectively. One thing you can learn is stability, but never gain speed. I am not knocking those models, plenty of people are perfectly happy paddling those, and caught plenty of BIG Just offering my perspective on a paddling, I believe you can demo kayaks at OEX, and other shops to find the right one for you. hope this helps, chris

05-21-2009, 04:16 PM	#5
Gino Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 520	X-factors are a great boat. I own one now and currently looking to sell it soon. X-factors have + and -, They are super stable, and have a good keel undernieth so they stay straight in the water when paddling. The front hatch is awsoem for stuffing a big halibut inthier without any trouble. They have decent storage. and surf launch and land pretty well. The ugly things are they definately are slow. The back hatch on Older X-factors back hatch sits kinda low in the water line near the scepper holes. So if your a bigger dude, with a bait tank you possible could have a problem with water getting intot he back hatch. (im 300lbs 6'3 so it has been a small issue for me, witch is why im selling it) I only take on water maybe every 5th trip or so. And its hardly enough water to notice anything differant in the kayak. They are longer with more bottom keel. So they are much harder to turn. And are one of the heavier kayaks to move around (not a problem for a big guy) X-Factors in general are an awsome kayak to get as your first boat. Very stable till you get your kayak legs and balance up! If you have the pocket book, Look into the Stealth - 14 its basically an x-factor with a differant interior design and and a live bait tank made molded in. Very nice kayak!

05-21-2009, 05:08 PM	#6
Freespool Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: La Jolla Posts: 42	Thanks for all the info guys. It really is appreciated. I'm sure you get new guys all the time asking "what kind of kayak should I get" so sorry to be one of those. I guess maybe I should head over to OEX this weekend and try paddling a few around. I'm not that big of a dude, more average I guess (6'1", 175-180 lbs.). From doing some reading, ideally I think I might want a WS Tarpon 140 but brand new they're a bit pricey. Because I'm new to the sport and on a budget, I feel like I should try to get a decent deal on something used. I plan to do quite a bit of fishing so I don't want something on it's last legs. I just want something fairly user friendly.

05-21-2009, 05:44 PM	#8
Holy Mackerel Señor member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 1,627	The longer paddle kayaks are going to have more glide, but your decision may be based on storage. Are you in an apt, or house with a garage? I am about your size, but plus 20lbs. Again, not saying Xfactor, or FnD would not be a great fishing platform. At your size, I'd look at: prowler 13,15 or trident malibu Pro explorer, X-13, stealth 14 tarpon 120, 140 or 160 cobra marauder, navigator, tourer maybe Josh, Nate, will b., Rooster, Steveooo can recommend a Hobie, I havent peddled any.