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Old 10-12-2020, 09:07 AM   #1
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FALL Fishing Tips!

If you didn't see it on YT, check out my video about tips and tactics for fall fishing in la jolla. I cover topics like:

1. When is Yellowtail season?

2. Lobster season opener and lobster pots... need heavy gear and tight drag!

3. Homemade sunscreen

4. Using lobster pots to find structure and reefs

5. Sonar settings

Check it out!

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Old 10-12-2020, 02:26 PM   #2
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Great video! Makes me want to be there NOW! I always save any unused bait and find someone to give it to on the way back before crossing the reserve line. Question- what do you consider to be "tanked up" on bait? I know everyone uses bait differently and has different sized livewells, etc. and it would depend how long you plan to be on the water, but I never really know when enough bait is enough. Personally, I'm used to fishing from a friend's boat that easily holds 1.5-2 full scoops from the barge no problem and I've been getting out of the habit of going though it so quickly. At LJ, I've been averaging about 15-ish mixed Spanish and Greenbacks and haven't run out yet over about 8 hours on the water. Just curious at what point when catching bait do you say "Okay, that's enough."
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In my experience, it doesn't matter how tight your drag is or how strong the line is if you don't have a drift chute.


A kayak alone doesn't produce much in the way of resistance against a yellowtail when they get a lobster pot or kelp in sight.


Even with a drift chute, I think the maximum resistance is not very high, maybe within range of 15-20 pound test. I'd say that abrasion resistance, and excellent choice of knots are more important than heavy line.
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Old 10-12-2020, 06:21 PM   #4
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In my experience, it doesn't matter how tight your drag is or how strong the line is if you don't have a drift chute.


A kayak alone doesn't produce much in the way of resistance against a yellowtail when they get a lobster pot or kelp in sight.


Even with a drift chute, I think the maximum resistance is not very high, maybe within range of 15-20 pound test. I'd say that abrasion resistance, and excellent choice of knots are more important than heavy line.
That's why you should pull yourself, or peddle yourself directly over the top of the fish as quickly as you can. With your line vertical in the water you can more effectively avoid the obstructions, and put more pressure on the fish because it isn't fighting the surface tension of the water, it's fighting the buoyancy of the kayak. A drift chute would prevent you from getting over the fish faster and is counter productive. Its not the 10 pound of drag on the surface of the water, its the ~400 pounds of weight capacity (buoyancy) of the kayak which you should be using to your advantage.

But by all means if you like to fish 15 pound test go for it!
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Old 10-13-2020, 08:09 AM   #5
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That's why you should pull yourself, or peddle yourself directly over the top of the fish as quickly as you can. With your line vertical in the water you can more effectively avoid the obstructions, and put more pressure on the fish because it isn't fighting the surface tension of the water, it's fighting the buoyancy of the kayak. A drift chute would prevent you from getting over the fish faster and is counter productive. Its not the 10 pound of drag on the surface of the water, its the ~400 pounds of weight capacity (buoyancy) of the kayak which you should be using to your advantage.

But by all means if you like to fish 15 pound test go for it!
That's the ticket, Stay on top of the fish..... the less line that is out, the better. When the Amberjacks are wreck spawning in my area, I will go up to 100lb braid. The rod has to be pointed at the bow at all times to avoid flipping, but it is pretty exhilarating when you connect and the PA gets towed fast. BTW, nice video, smart to make your own sunscreen, most the ones on the market have toxic ingredience that get absorbed into the skin that are bad for ones health.
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Old 10-12-2020, 06:24 PM   #6
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Great video! Makes me want to be there NOW! I always save any unused bait and find someone to give it to on the way back before crossing the reserve line. Question- what do you consider to be "tanked up" on bait? I know everyone uses bait differently and has different sized livewells, etc. and it would depend how long you plan to be on the water, but I never really know when enough bait is enough. Personally, I'm used to fishing from a friend's boat that easily holds 1.5-2 full scoops from the barge no problem and I've been getting out of the habit of going though it so quickly. At LJ, I've been averaging about 15-ish mixed Spanish and Greenbacks and haven't run out yet over about 8 hours on the water. Just curious at what point when catching bait do you say "Okay, that's enough."
15 is probably a good number, but it depends on the size of the baits too. Big greenback can use up a lot of oxygen and for them really big ones I'll do like 6. If its just Spanish in there you can easy do 20+ baits. They seem to chill out much more in the tank and use much less dissolved O2.
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Old 10-13-2020, 08:39 AM   #7
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Well Done Chris

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Old 10-14-2020, 01:11 PM   #8
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Some good dope here👌🏻

Love the fall fishing at LJ ❤️
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Old 10-14-2020, 04:38 PM   #9
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Nice work on the video!

I’ve found that if a YT is running towards a lobster pot before you can get on top of it that you can sometimes steer them away from it. If you turn your kayak hard left the fish will usually turn right.

I’ve managed to do this a few times so I think it works. Of course it could have just been dumb luck!
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If you didn't see it on YT, check out my video about tips and tactics for fall fishing in la jolla. I cover topics like:

1. When is Yellowtail season?

2. Lobster season opener and lobster pots... need heavy gear and tight drag!

3. Homemade sunscreen

4. Using lobster pots to find structure and reefs

5. Sonar settings

Check it out!

This was a dope video 🙌🏼
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