Kayak Fishing Adventures on Big Water’s Edge  

Go Back   Kayak Fishing Adventures on Big Water’s Edge > Kayak Fishing Forum - Message Board > General Kayak Fishing Discussion

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 06-03-2016, 07:37 AM   #1
dpricenator
Senior Member
 
dpricenator's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2016
Location: South OC
Posts: 120
New here with a question or 2 or 3

Hey everyone, my name is Dave, and have been lurking here for a month or so. I have an old, Bare Bones Malibu XL Two. My rod holders are PVC zip tied to a milk crate that gets bungeed down behind the seat. I have no hatches or compartments on my rig, and my fish finder is non-existent. Anyway, I made it out to LJ a couple weeks back for my first outing, and managed a good rock fish and a big dark colored ray. Not sure what kind of ray, as I cut my line once I realized the monster on the end of my line was not going to be dinner. No way I wanted to deal with pulling an unknown ray onto the yak.

I caught the rock fish was caught on a 4 OZ Shimano Flat Flat Fall Jig in the Sand Eel pattern. Good fight, and it tasted great too. This brings me to question one.

How do you fish this jig, properly, using a conventional reel? Since the jig initially sinks like a torpedo, then lays out flat, it changes speed on the way down. So every 4-5 seconds my reel wanted to back lash my line. I began controlling the line using my thumb, but then thought I was now preventing the jig from ever getting enough speed to turn on it's side. So my flat fall became a YOYO.

I'm guessing the easiest fix s to use a spinning reel, but I don't have a good spinning reel. By good, I mean capable of handling a YT. All my spinners are too small for anything but a sabiki rig.

Next question. What is a good spinning reel, that can handle a larger fish, with out breaking the bank?

Thanks for your time.
dpricenator is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-03-2016, 08:20 AM   #2
Denis_Ruso
Senior Member
 
Denis_Ruso's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2015
Posts: 571
Hey and Welcome,

Good luck in trying to figure out your style of fishing and all the stuff you are going to learn in the coming years.

You don't need a spin to use the flat fall jig.

The flat fall jig is used for a few different way. It is meant to simulate a fluttering action of dying sinking fish. It can also be used to jig the bottom if you are fishing for bottom dwellers.

As far as backlashing your conventional reel, there is generally an adjustment on the reel for how easily it will release line in free spool. Find it, tighten it and that should solve or improve your predicament. The rest is controlled by the thumb. Conventional reels take some time to get used to, just practice, practice, practice.

If your heart is set on a spinning setup, give the Shimano Stradic a try.(around 175$).
__________________
2018 Hobie Outback 13

I do not fear the storm as it will teach me how to sail my ship.
Denis_Ruso is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-03-2016, 09:47 AM   #3
FullFlavorPike
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2016
Location: San Diego, CA
Posts: 809
Your reel might not have a casting brake, but if it does, use that. Otherwise use your thumb on the edge of the spool itself, rather than pressing it on the uneven line, for more of a fine tunable speed adjustment. You can apply pretty neglible pressure that way and it will prevent the reel from backlashing as a jig sinks.
FullFlavorPike is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -8. The time now is 05:58 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
© 2002 Big Water's Edge. All rights reserved.