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04-08-2016, 03:17 PM | #1 |
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Put the mackerel out to soon. 4/8/16
Fishing lake Jennings this morning with on and off sprizters of rain and being the only boat on the lake till I got my limit of trout by 9am than another boat pulls up and we start to chat about fishing.I look over my shoulder and here comes the lake boat with a game warden he asks me how many pole are you fishing with I said two so me ask for my cooler of fish so I hand it to him again he asks me how many poles are you fishing with this time he says I have been watching you with binoculars so I said three just threw the mackerel out after my limit of trout well doggy then looks like a limit of trout with a three pole ticket first time I have ever been checked here in the 25 years of fishing here got the trout on Sammon peach and rainbow power bait.
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Duke Mitchell Last edited by MITCHELL; 04-09-2016 at 06:15 AM. |
04-08-2016, 04:17 PM | #2 |
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Not sure how happy you will be when paying for the ticket. My friend had to pay $400 for fishing w two poles w/o 2nd pole stamp. Not sure if this applies to your situation, hope not.
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04-08-2016, 04:31 PM | #3 | |
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Now I really feel pathetic.. Lol Last edited by stevie951; 04-08-2016 at 04:37 PM. |
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04-08-2016, 04:34 PM | #4 | |
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04-08-2016, 04:37 PM | #5 |
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ouch....
I'll let you know what the fine is...
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04-08-2016, 07:30 PM | #6 |
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I'm a rebel, so I'd fight it! (hence my SN - silbaugh4LIBERTY) If I can get a MISDEMEANOR traffic ticket Dismissed, then this would be a piece of cake in my book. Honestly, ask yourself this....."who did I injure/hurt/steal from/or rights did I violate?" If you said None to all of those, then there is no crime. The ticket is them extending an offer to do business, and if you accept, then go ahead and pay the ticket. I sure wouldn't.
Nice job on the limits BTW!!
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04-08-2016, 08:35 PM | #7 |
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[QUOTE=stevie951;258088]Or you can just be a degenerate like myself, every time I get a speeding ticket I take it to court.. Not sure about the Dept.of Fish and Game, but with CA Traffic court, you are allowed like 2 month long extensions from the original appear date on the Ticket, after the 2nd ext, a Must Appear date is given that cannot be moved and chances are higher that those 2 months later, now 4 or 5 months after the original ticket, the officer could care less or simply cannot attend that court date. If the Officer is not there to defend the case, you automatically are not guilty (of course you have to pay the fine before a judge will see the case but upon the NG verdict, you will be refunded..) If he is there, chances are he did not have video evidence of you with the 3 poles, so just be polite to the judge, dress nice, and give him your "honest" rendition of things..
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04-08-2016, 09:09 PM | #8 | |
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You're best bet is to serve a summons to the officer, and then if he doesn't show up, you can throw that in their face, and then they MUST dismiss it. I'd still file a Demurr to dismiss though, since they lack evidence proving Jurisdiction. The reason being is they'll say you injured the people of (THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA). Well who in the hell is the (STATE OF CALIFORNIA)? It's a corporation, a DBA, a fictitious entity. Don't believe me, do the research yourself. You can look up any Business on Dunn & Bradstreet https://businesscredit.dnb.com/coo Last time I checked, the Constitution doesn't say (We the Citizens), it says (We the People). Citizen=corporation=DBA Last food for thought. Some local news from this week....... http://www.latimes.com/opinion/edito...407-story.html
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04-09-2016, 03:57 AM | #9 |
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Funny thing is
I never take more than a limit.....I release all the big mouth bass I have good fishing ethics just feeding my addiction fishing poles I only took 8 this time
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04-14-2016, 08:55 PM | #10 |
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Although I don't agree with some of the posted speed limits, it's best for public safety and interest to follow them. In this case, same deal.
Also, we can attempt to change the laws, but until we do, we need to follow what's in place, regardless if we believe it's fair, right or otherwise.....Heck, I think it's stoopid we can't carry a pistol on a plane for protection, but there are laws against it. And hopefully when you show up in court, if you humbly admit your mistake, maybe the judge will reduce the fine or even throw out the ticket. If not tho, lesson learned and you can walk out with your integrity, .....and if you have kids, something you can share with them..... just sayin'. All the best.........Pinhead Out! |
04-15-2016, 08:08 AM | #11 |
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play the game ..pay the price...
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04-15-2016, 09:45 AM | #12 | |
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http://justsomething.co/the-22-most-...ffect-today-2/ You need to understand there is a difference in "the law" and "color of law". Meaning MPA's were argued as Unconstitutional, but they get you obey this nonsense via the License (contractual obligation to abide color of law statutes). Secondly, are you honestly are telling me everyone here obeys the speed limit? NOBODY obeys the speed limit in California, and if you say you do, I'm going to tell you that you're a liar. I'm from the midwest, and I was crapping my pants the first time I entered the roads here in SoCal. Everyone drives like maniacs.(there's a reason everywhere else you get ticketed for "California Stops" except in California I guess). If you need the State to tell you what is right or wrong, how the Hell are you ever going to teach your children what's right or wrong? "One has a Moral Responsibility to disobey unjust laws" ~Dr. Martin Luther King Jr.~ "If a law is unjust, a man is not only right to disobey it, but he is obligate to do so" ~Thomas Jefferson~ "An unjust law is itself a species of violence. Arrest for its breach is more so" ~Muhatma Ghandi~ "Laws control the lesser man...Right Conduct controls the greater one" ~Mark Twain~ But what do I know, all these people are just criminals right? Anyone who believes man has a valid authority to create right and wrong is an idiot. No victim, no crime, not wrong. Man can also not give rights to others no one else has. Think about it!
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05-02-2016, 07:51 AM | #13 |
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I'm
Speech less.
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05-02-2016, 08:15 AM | #14 |
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Well unfortunately you admittedly committed the crime...the fine seems pretty excessive to me. But good news is that the BWE's unofficial Legal Expert is on your team. Soon you will be notified of the steps you should take in this matter. You will soon learn that it is illegal to make things illegal thus you will be victorious in your long protracted legal fight. You might incur several thousands of dollars in costs, due to lost work, travel expenses, possible arrest for non payment of fine, real attorney fees and possibly having to pay the fine anyways in the end... But not to fear! You are the test case! We will be watching and hoping you can stick it to the MAN! (totally at your expense of course)
By the way if you get arrested for not showing up in court for not paying the fine....uhhh It's not really anybody's fault here just so you know...
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05-02-2016, 08:18 AM | #15 |
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Hmmm!
I'm guessing you're going to fight that one. |
05-02-2016, 08:21 AM | #16 |
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I was a legal contractor
For over 20 plus years how many times do you think I have been to count with or without a lawyer
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05-04-2016, 08:32 AM | #17 |
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Nice! I'd always put the burden of proof on them. Whether you think you're guilty or not, THEY'RE the ones who made the complaint, so they gotta prove it. Of course California judges in these lower circuit kangaroo courts just try to intimidate into taking the plea, because it costs them tens off thousands to do a jury trial. So they view those who don't take "their deal" as a nuisance, and will give you a hard time. I rather exercise my constitutionally protected, God given rights. Let us know the outcome, as it may benefit future fishermen.
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05-05-2016, 07:13 AM | #18 |
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Is this what we should be doing?
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08-17-2016, 02:10 PM | #19 |
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Case dismissed.
Officer Smith did not show up for court.
$1100 Fine not.I say check the fine before you do the crime because you don't want to get time.... Thank you officer Smith for not showing up.
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08-17-2016, 04:35 PM | #20 |
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Sometimes luck is on your side
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