Lifeguard Report about "no blood" or scent near beach.....

[seaquinn]

I'm not real sure how they check this, but just listening right now, Sat AM, Sept 5th, on the Let's Talk Hookup Radio Show, that due to so many Hammerheads nearby at LJ, the lifeguards report that all of us kayakers at La Jolla, can not be coming into the boat launch with any blood scent on our boats.

Something like that.

The message was to clean our fish out at sea, and truly rinse any blood off far away from the beach. Apparently there are lots of hammerheads and when one of us cleans our fish, they may follow the kayak for a long ways, and they don't want us bringing those hammerheads into the swimming area.

I know it sounds crazy, and as soon as the water cools, this will all change, but they said they may CLOSE THE LAUNCH AREA TO KAYAKS if we don't do this.

Hammerheads typically feed on small fish, but if aroused by scent, then lots of splashing kids, etc... well, you get the idea.

The message was for us to police ourselves so that they don't have to.

[buddha]

Hopefully these are just idle threats of closing the launch area to kayaks. My guess is that there will be no hammerheads to come into the swimming area and then we go back to regular programming.

[maquinapescado]

Are they going to inspect for menstruating women as well. I hear sharks can smell a drop of blood from a mile away........

[mckenzie]

This is NOT an idle threat, this is VERY real. I just spoke to the lifeguards. The BEACH WILL BE CLOSES TO KAYAK FISHERMEN. They are watching yakkers come in with their binoculars and if ANY sharks are seen, the beach will be closed to all yak fishermen.

Don't be an idiot, if you must gut your fish, do it out in open water and make sure the hammers are not following you in to the landing. If you are asked by ANYONE, "no I have not seen any sharks today". This should be your standard answer.

We will lose are right to fish LJ and who knows when we will get it back-if ever!!!!

[alanw]

"In Saturday's sighting, kayak fisherman captured cellphone video that looked like a scene from Jaws."

With reporting like that, it's only a matter of time. http://www.10news.com/news/2nd-shark...ompts-advisory

[skrilla]

Complete BS. Sounds like a violation of public access. Where is SAC and CCA-CAL? Might as well spend some of that money they made at Fred Hall to fight our right to access the ocean. That or start dragging your kayaks down to Children's seal's Pool.

/kneejerk reaction

[Zed]

Originally Posted by mckenzie

This is NOT an idle threat, this is VERY real. I just spoke to the lifeguards. The BEACH WILL BE CLOSES TO KAYAK FISHERMEN. They are watching yakkers come in with their binoculars and if ANY sharks are seen, the beach will be closed to all yak fishermen.

Don't be an idiot, if you must gut your fish, do it out in open water and make sure the hammers are not following you in to the landing. If you are asked by ANYONE, "no I have not seen any sharks today". This should be your standard answer.

We will lose are right to fish LJ and who knows when we will get it back-if ever!!!!

Point to the leopards and scream "theyre right there!" and run flailing your arms.

[rossman]

I am certainly not "The sky is falling" kind of a guy but I think this is a serious threat to this community. Having seen what went on during the MLPA process I can say with certainty a that there are a lot more people with a lot more money than this community has that would shut us all down. Logic and science be dammed. It simply doesn't matter. All they need is some lame excuse that the media will get behind.

[HobieScot]

Logic and science do not factor into a decision to take away sportsmanship rights. They just banned bobcat trapping THIS YEAR even with a solid case presented at the meetings with the biologists, facts, and the science to back it up. Yet they still banned trapping.

And when it comes to sharks and the mass hysteria that they evoke in the public you can bet it would be an easy sell to take away our rights and blame it all on us. Forget the fact that El Niño is why the Sharks are here so close and in the numbers they are

They don't care about facts



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[FARRIER]

Was a health and safety code used? Or what specific body of law governed that decision do you recall? I would like to read it.

[swinginFish]

Originally Posted by seaquinn

...The message was for us to police ourselves so that they don't have to.

I'm probably not the only LJ kayak fisherman who's called 911 from my kayak so that the lifeguards could quickly come out and take care of another yakker in a sinking craft, nor am I alone in being impressed with the speed and thoroughness of their efforts. In short, I appreciate what they do and, frankly, understand the pressure on them to err on the side of caution.

Would seem wise to me that, rather than risk bringing on a launch closure through obstinacy and sounding like we care little about beach goers, that we make a distinct effort to appear sensitive to the importance of caution, and as public as we can about the kayak fishing community's effort to police itself so as to minimize risk to ourselves as well as others from sharks.

Time to get serious about this, as things could spin way out of our control. Perhaps take the ball (rather than react defensively) and spin things quickly and loudly so that we're publicly promoted as the "early-warning system" most effective at alerting others of aggressive shark behavior in the area.

While the so-called "sky" may not as yet be "falling," with the report this evening of a hammerhead biting the dangling foot of a County Line kayak fisherman," it certainly seems like there's dark clouds" on the horizon."

Avery

[MITCHELL]

I was born in Sandiego just do what they ask.....or find another place to fish period.

[surfisher]

Simple: Catch and Release for 1-2 weeks until it blows over. If interviewed it could also give kayak fisherman a good name so we don't appear to be fish killing machines.

Obviously not everyone would want to release their prized YT but I'm sure most of the dudes that have been fishing this season have a full freezer by now.

[PAL]

Originally Posted by swinginFish

I'm probably not the only LJ kayak fisherman who's called 911 from my kayak so that the lifeguards could quickly come out and take care of another yakker in a sinking craft, nor am I alone in being impressed with the speed and thoroughness of their efforts. In short, I appreciate what they do and, frankly, understand the pressure on them to err on the side of caution.

Would seem wise to me that, rather than risk bringing on a launch closure through obstinacy and sounding like we care little about beach goers, that we make a distinct effort to appear sensitive to the importance of caution, and as public as we can about the kayak fishing community's effort to police itself so as to minimize risk to ourselves as well as others from sharks.

Time to get serious about this, as things could spin way out of our control. Perhaps take the ball (rather than react defensively) and spin things quickly and loudly so that we're publicly promoted as the "early-warning system" most effective at alerting others of aggressive shark behavior in the area.

While the so-called "sky" may not as yet be "falling," with the report this evening of a hammerhead biting the dangling foot of a County Line kayak fisherman," it certainly seems like there's dark clouds" on the horizon."

Avery

Well said Avery.

[taggermike]

Logic and science have no influence here. Just fear. People love LJ because wildlife is abundant and visible. But it seams many get their 'knowledge' of nature from Disney cartoons where there are all ways good and bad animals. Seals good:sharks bad. But there are no bad animals. Sharks come for the same reasons seal lions, dolphins, and people do.

Like with the MLPA, anglers are an obvious minority to scape goat. I wonder if thousands of swimmers n waders thrashing n pissing in the water could attract sharks??? Mike

[ctfphoto]

is because of the extremely WARM water!!!!!!!!!!!!!

The lifeguards should just fight global warming and not us kayak fisherman!

[Jimmyz123]

Originally Posted by ctfphoto

is because of the extremely WARM water!!!!!!!!!!!!!

The lifeguards should just fight global warming and not us kayak fisherman!

Along with that Hammerheads also like stingrays, and where do we see most of the stingrays? Near the beaches, in the sand. We are not the cause, but anything we can do to keep from being the focus of the reason, we need to help out any way we can.

[jorluivil]

Originally Posted by ctfphoto

is because of the extremely WARM water!!!!!!!!!!!!!

The lifeguards should just fight global warming and not us kayak fisherman!

And because they live there

[Gr8fuldude]

Originally Posted by swinginFish

Would seem wise to me that, rather than risk bringing on a launch closure through obstinacy and sounding like we care little about beach goers, that we make a distinct effort to appear sensitive to the importance of caution, and as public as we can about the kayak fishing community's effort to police itself so as to minimize risk to ourselves as well as others from sharks.

Time to get serious about this, as things could spin way out of our control. Perhaps take the ball (rather than react defensively) and spin things quickly and loudly so that we're publicly promoted as the "early-warning system" most effective at alerting others of aggressive shark behavior in the area. Avery

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[Jimmyz123]

Originally Posted by swinginFish

I'm probably not the only LJ kayak fisherman who's called 911 from my kayak so that the lifeguards could quickly come out and take care of another yakker in a sinking craft, nor am I alone in being impressed with the speed and thoroughness of their efforts. In short, I appreciate what they do and, frankly, understand the pressure on them to err on the side of caution.

Would seem wise to me that, rather than risk bringing on a launch closure through obstinacy and sounding like we care little about beach goers, that we make a distinct effort to appear sensitive to the importance of caution, and as public as we can about the kayak fishing community's effort to police itself so as to minimize risk to ourselves as well as others from sharks.

Time to get serious about this, as things could spin way out of our control. Perhaps take the ball (rather than react defensively) and spin things quickly and loudly so that we're publicly promoted as the "early-warning system" most effective at alerting others of aggressive shark behavior in the area.

While the so-called "sky" may not as yet be "falling," with the report this evening of a hammerhead biting the dangling foot of a County Line kayak fisherman," it certainly seems like there's dark clouds" on the horizon."

Avery

It's better to be safe and do as we are asked for a while. When summer is over and the people are not at the beaches as often then it will calm down.

I understand the questioning of this, but please don't go, baiting the lifeguards to see what they will do. Like everyone else I would hate to see the launch closed for Kayak Fishers. There's a huge event happening next weekend and it would really suck to have someone force the closure and that event have to be moved or cancelled.

I wish I had the ability to hit up La Jolla more often but for those who are able to, I love seeing their catches and the fun that we all share. Let's not force the hand of those who can keep us from it.