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Old 03-05-2014, 12:42 PM   #1
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CATALINA CROSSING TOO!!!!!!

So Fishwisperer619, let us see if we can put together a fun, safe trip to Catalina for Sept/Oct of 2014. Do we want to camp and fish for a few days and paddle back. Or just do the paddle over? What do YOU want to do, how do you envision this trip. We definately will need a support boat, for safety and to carry some gear to keep yaks lighter.
Figuring 2mph means 11 hours to cross, might not take that long but.......... so people do need to be in shape. And we will need to do shorter paddles together but we can set that up. If there is interest then let's just do it.
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I'm in. I feel confident in ability and am up for the challenge.
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Good luck guys! Although that would be an amazing accomplishment to have under my belt...I Don't really think I could make it all the way across...unless I had a hobie sail kit for my PA...Hmmmm....
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Good luck guys! Although that would be an amazing accomplishment to have under my belt...I Don't really think I could make it all the way across...unless I had a hobie sail kit for my PA...Hmmmm....
maybe you colud ask your buddy Joe to toe you.


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Good luck guys! Although that would be an amazing accomplishment to have under my belt...I Don't really think I could make it all the way across...unless I had a hobie sail kit for my PA...Hmmmm....
I do feel you, and you are not 65 yet, but seriously if you set a 2mph pace with your gps you will find that it is not to difficult to maintain, and I will be taking my Adventure Island with sail, so maybe it would make people smile to see you being towed into Catalina or, yep you just got motivated to finish the paddle. However with a safety boat/mothership it is doable, safe and would be FUN too, any way did not I hear you say you wanted to loose a couple of pounds, here is your chance? And I promise our food will be better then Jenny Craig's.
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So how much drag/resistance does a cd18 rapala create?
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So Fishwisperer619, let us see if we can put together a fun, safe trip to Catalina for Sept/Oct of 2014. Do we want to camp and fish for a few days and paddle back. Or just do the paddle over? What do YOU want to do, how do you envision this trip. We definitely will need a support boat, for safety and to carry some gear to keep yaks lighter.
Figuring 2mph means 11 hours to cross, might not take that long but.......... so people do need to be in shape. And we will need to do shorter paddles together but we can set that up. If there is interest then let's just do it.

Weather is crucial.

People paddle and row the channel but they do it when the weather is good, with a predictable weather pattern, and some times of year are more predictable then others.

I'll be honest Sept October is iffy.

I fish for Billfish Off Avalon in a small skiff that time of year and weather wise it's not a very predictable time of year. Almost every day starts out flat then around noon wind comes up from west. Some days it's 5-10 knots of wind some days it comes up 20to 40 knots rips down the channel and generates 10ft confused seas.

Several times on days where there was supposed to be just mild conditions I've seen winds come out of nowhere. Sometimes it happens so fast so quickly that you actually see the whitewater before you feel the wind.

There have been times I just barely made it back to the shelter of the island and another time I tried to beat the wind back and ended up fighting the wind half the night and barely made it back to shore.

Here's some pics that I dug up from a Catalina Marlin trip that time of year.

9:00 AM


2:00PM (Almost same location coming back in 9ft seas.)


I kid you not the worst conditions I have ever been in on my skiff anywhere ever, happened right in the exact area you want to cross, during that time of year, on a day they forecast little or no wind.

I could of died, I know of other people who have died in similar wind events in small boats under 20 feet.

This is a known weather pattern and I've got stuck at the island for days because of it.

Actually I researched this before and I think the best time of year to paddle across is coming up shortly, flat calm late winter conditions are the most predictable. The guys who do it also start out in the middle of the night so that they can be across before noon.

You may think this is easy or safe but if you get caught in a fall wind event in that channel in the kind of kayak that you guys fish your going to be in big trouble even if you have a support boat.

Just saying, Jim

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Weather is crucial.

People paddle and row the channel but they do it when the weather is good, with a predictable weather pattern, and some times of year are more predictable then others.

I'll be honest Sept October is iffy.

I fish for Billfish Off Avalon in a small skiff that time of year and weather wise it's not a very predictable time of year. Almost every day starts out flat then around noon wind comes up from west. Some days it's 5-10 knots of wind some days it comes up 20to 40 knots rips down the channel and generates 10ft confused seas.

Several times on days where there was supposed to be just mild conditions I've seen winds come out of nowhere. Sometimes it happens so fast so quickly that you actually see the whitewater before you feel the wind.

There have been times I just barely made it back to the shelter of the island and another time I tried to beat the wind back and ended up fighting the wind half the night and barely made it back to shore.

I kid you not the worst conditions I have ever been in on my skiff anywhere ever, happened right in the exact area you want to cross, during that time of year, on a day they forecasted little or no wind.

I could of died, I know of other people who have died in similar wind events in small boats under 20 feet.

This is a known weather pattern and I've got stuck at the island for days because of it.

Actually I researched this before and I think the best time of year to paddle across is coming up shortly, flat calm late winter conditions are the most predictable. The guys who do it also start out in the middle of the night so that they can be across before noon.

You may think this is easy or safe but if you get caught in a fall wind event in that channel in the kind of kayak that you guys fish your going to be in big trouble even if you have a support boat.

Just saying, Jim
So guys what say if we are serious about this we set it up for next MARCH. Comments please. AND Jim, thank you for keeping us all safe.
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So guys what say if we are serious about this we set it up for next MARCH. Comments please. AND Jim, thank you for keeping us all safe.
Thanks. I've spent a lot of time at Cat and it can be brutal. I'm all for this but be careful and choose your days wisely.
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Catalina crossing

Does the marina del rey flyer still take kayaks? Does anyone know how many? How about a one way King harbor to cabrillo in the summer when the days are long. This would be great practice for a longer trip and alot of areas to fish. Anyone down for that?
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Jim...isn't fall the best time ?...oct,nov...west wind isn't as bad as summer forsure....
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Does the marina del rey flyer still take kayaks? Does anyone know how many? How about a one way King harbor to cabrillo in the summer when the days are long. This would be great practice for a longer trip and alot of areas to fish. Anyone down for that?
Flyer no longer allows kayaks
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Weather is crucial.

People paddle and row the channel but they do it when the weather is good, with a predictable weather pattern, and some times of year are more predictable then others.

I'll be honest Sept October is iffy.

I fish for Billfish Off Avalon in a small skiff that time of year and weather wise it's not a very predictable time of year. Almost every day starts out flat then around noon wind comes up from west. Some days it's 5-10 knots of wind some days it comes up 20to 40 knots rips down the channel and generates 10ft confused seas.

Several times on days where there was supposed to be just mild conditions I've seen winds come out of nowhere. Sometimes it happens so fast so quickly that you actually see the whitewater before you feel the wind.

There have been times I just barely made it back to the shelter of the island and another time I tried to beat the wind back and ended up fighting the wind half the night and barely made it back to shore.

Here's some pics that I dug up from a Catalina Marlin trip that time of year.

9:00 AM


2:00PM (Almost same location coming back in 9ft seas.)


I kid you not the worst conditions I have ever been in on my skiff anywhere ever, happened right in the exact area you want to cross, during that time of year, on a day they forecast little or no wind.

I could of died, I know of other people who have died in similar wind events in small boats under 20 feet.

This is a known weather pattern and I've got stuck at the island for days because of it.

Actually I researched this before and I think the best time of year to paddle across is coming up shortly, flat calm late winter conditions are the most predictable. The guys who do it also start out in the middle of the night so that they can be across before noon.

You may think this is easy or safe but if you get caught in a fall wind event in that channel in the kind of kayak that you guys fish your going to be in big trouble even if you have a support boat.

Just saying, Jim
So when would you suggest making the trip?
For me, I was hoping for a paddle out ob friday, fish all day saturday, main land on Sunday. My only concern is keeping the catch cold. Put a big cooler on tge support boat? My current semester ends in may so june july August would be ideal for me but as fiskadoro said weather is crucial. Plus I want this to be a group decision. Are the majority of us in SD or are some of us further north? Maybe a bbq at the bay to talk things over as a group?
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Lets all get together and talk about it. Set a date for all who are interested in going to meet up and layout a plan. Tidelands park? The reason I suggest a meeting is so that we can get an Idea of how many people are wanting to do it, discuss dates, arrangements, as well as anythig else that needs to be talked about.

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Old 03-11-2014, 11:10 AM   #17
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Also, its about $40 to ship the kayaks one way so if anyone is interested in that they can also join up that way

Ill be at the rockfish derby on april 5th to meet up with those Interested in the trip. My name is Jesse and ill be in a yellow PA14 with the word CAGUAMA on the side
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