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Old 02-21-2014, 01:57 PM   #1
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Spotties

I fish krokodiles, swim baits, kastmasters mostly like you would fish for bass in lakes near tidelands and Glorietta. I catch squat. I ask guys at the launch how they did and they say "I caught 30+ fish in 2 hours!" I'm out there from 8-noon with maybe 2 or 3 spotties.....maybe. This is past frustrating. I use a cast and retrieve with time to let the lure sink but at no particular depth am I finding a "honey hole". Please help, I'm not new but I feel like an old guy getting his drivers lisence taken away because I THOUGHT I knew what I was doing! HAHA

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Old 02-21-2014, 02:09 PM   #2
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Chartreuse grubs on A 3/8 to 1/2 oz lead head are your friends. Bounce/ drag them across the bottom in sandy areas or over eel grass tops Spotties like bottom contact or hanging out around dock pilings.
Post the next time you are going out and there is bound to be someone willing to join you. If I'm able to go I'll bring many types of lures and rods and let you use one of my rods set up with braid if you haven't tried braid yet.once you get a feel for it and some OTW advice, you'll be golden.
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Old 02-21-2014, 02:34 PM   #3
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Sounds like a plan! I fish braid on just about all of my reels, I love it, very responsive and great feel. I have the grub lead head set up you are talking about. I'll try to work the bottom more and Texas rig it so I don't catch so much eel grass. I'll be out on a mango WS Tarpon 120 Sunday morning until about 11 around the golf course/harbor/tidelands area.
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Old 02-21-2014, 02:35 PM   #4
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I fish krokodiles, swim baits, kastmasters mostly like you would fish for bass in lakes near tidelands and Glorietta. I catch squat. I ask guys at the launch how they did and they say "I caught 30+ fish in 2 hours!" I'm out there from 8-noon with maybe 2 or 3 spotties.....maybe. This is past frustrating. I use a cast and retrieve with time to let the lure sink but at no particular depth am I finding a "honey hole". Please help, I'm not new but I feel like an old guy getting his drivers lisence taken away because I THOUGHT I knew what I was doing! HAHA

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Come down to Chula Vista. I usually catch more fish there than Tidelands or Glorietta on a consistent basis.
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Old 02-21-2014, 03:15 PM   #5
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bunch of us will be out in that area this sunday. tips would be to keep your lure always in contact or near the bottom structure. i like using big hammers with a 3/8 oz. leadhead or 1/4 oz. depending on depth and structure being fished. browns/greens/orange colored are your friend. see you out there!
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Old 02-21-2014, 03:25 PM   #6
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Things change

I fish South Bay a lot. For a long time I fished exclusively ghost shrimp on a drop shot or a cheapass crayfish plastics rigged similarly for spotties and the occasional bonefish or hali. Lately I've been deadsticking some dessicated old chunks of market shrimp I found buried in my freezer while tossing BH sexy smelt or bay smelt swimbaits in red or black 1/4 or 3/8 oz heads (the south end is very shallow outside the boat channels). I seem to get more of the big spawning spotties on the lure than bait, using a slow, irregular retrieve. Subtle pickups, especially since I went back to mono. Sometimes you just need to relax when you feel a nibble, reel acouple cranks, rest again, repeat. This has changed from when I used the crayfish, which they'd often hammer violently. And once in awhile the deadsticked shrimp gets picked up by a bone. Some scent is also a big help. I've used Hot Sauce, Unibutter, and lately ProCure krill, which they seem to like. Gulp lures tended to end in more guthooked fish, so I quit. Hope this helps, tight lines.
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Old 02-21-2014, 05:12 PM   #7
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Gulp shrimp or gulp jerk shad with moving water slays them. Carolina rigged.
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Old 02-21-2014, 05:16 PM   #8
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To fish weedless an Owner sledhead with Gulp jerk shad is a great combination.
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Old 02-22-2014, 07:48 AM   #9
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try using 12-16" of 10-15lb fluorocarbon leader with a 1/2 - 3/4oz head. bass are structure related fish... eel grass is your friend.
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Old 02-21-2014, 03:14 PM   #10
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I'm out there from 8-noon with maybe 2 or 3 spotties.....maybe. This is past frustrating.
The single biggest factor (in my experience) of catching fish in the bays, is tide movement. The tide will move during the time span you noted above but when and by how much? Too little or too much movement can be bad. My preference is anything between 3 - 5 ft. You can catch fish on a slack tide as well, just not as often. It can be difficult planning your trips around tides but you will find when you do, your days, on average will produce more fish.fficeffice" />>>
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Old 02-22-2014, 04:07 PM   #11
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What Mr. Patrick said. Grubs grubs grubs! Not always trophies but you will catch them by the masses. Especially in the back of the day
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Old 02-22-2014, 05:25 PM   #12
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try this !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Old 02-22-2014, 06:47 PM   #13
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I have success fishing grubs and 3'' swim baits on 1/4 and 3/8 heads. Most of the so bay is pretty shallow so about the heaviest I'll go is 1/2. Smelt are the most common bait fish back there so I go with lighter green or lime smelt pattern. I also like a ghost shrimp grub and swimbaits, kinda pinkish with a red spot on the belly. Spotties do eat fish but the majority of their diet is inverts; worms, clams, shrimp, crabs. I like a brown or root beer grub for those. When flipping docks I like to use creature baits and crawdad type fresh water bass lures. Crank baits can be great at times. Like others said; moving water and keeping your lure on or near the bottom are vital. Keep trying, you'll get em. Mike
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Old 02-23-2014, 11:19 AM   #14
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Gulp shrimp on a jighead heavy enough to reach bottom. Paddle out to the channel drop off at Tidelands. Drop the bait to the bottom and drift it. Make sure the bait is bouncing on the bottom.
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Old 02-23-2014, 07:41 PM   #15
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5" camo Gulp jerkshad on a 3/8oz sledhead. Fish it low and slow or drop it down pilings and hang on. OR you can come to Fred Hall LB show and sit in on one of my seminars on fishing for bay bass.

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5" camo Gulp jerkshad on a 3/8oz sledhead. Fish it low and slow or drop it down pilings and hang on. OR you can come to Fred Hall LB show and sit in on one of my seminars on fishing for bay bass.

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That has been my go to technique especially in heavy eel grass.
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