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Old 05-09-2007, 05:34 PM   #1
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Making Bait...

Does anyone else find it hard to catch bait after greylight hours? I work Saturday mornings and have been trying to utilize the later sunsets courtesy of George Bush. Any time I can get on the water I do but I get frustrated when I am trying to get mid day bait. The pier always seems to be deserted during daylight which inevitably leaves me searching for bait around the kelp or trying to find a rouge school of bait passing by. I'd kinda like to hear some opinions on this matter. Thanks in advance...
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Old 05-09-2007, 05:44 PM   #2
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Are you having trouble finding bait or getting the bait to bite the sabiki?
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Old 05-09-2007, 05:50 PM   #3
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You can almost always get spanish in the kelp area. Once the sun rises you usually meter bait, or just listen and look for it. I also haven't been out for over a week , so I don't know what the current situation is. A lot of the bait that is puddling on the surface is dines, chovies, and smelt which are much more reluctant to hit the sabiki.
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Old 05-09-2007, 06:15 PM   #4
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I've been having success in the kelp, I haven't gone to the pier in a couple of weeks. If the current is not too strong a can of catfood dumped in the water helps as chum, if there is a lot of current the catfood is a waste. Also you can see bait balls on the FF in open water and drop a sabiki with a torpedo weight right into it, almost always works, even if they are 30' or 40' down or deeper. And I always carry a package of 5" gulp squid just in case, I might have to break out one of those every 8-10 trips. I've caught a couple calicos and a lingcod on a single gulp squid then put it back in the resealable package and used it again several weeks later for more success.
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Old 05-09-2007, 06:19 PM   #5
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I've been having success in the kelp, I haven't gone to the pier in a couple of weeks. If the current is not too strong a can of catfood dumped in the water helps as chum, if there is a lot of current the catfood is a waste. Also you can see bait balls on the FF in open water and drop a sabiki with a torpedo weight right into it, almost always works, even if they are 30' or 40' down or deeper. And I always carry a package of 5" gulp squid just in case, I might have to break out one of those every 8-10 trips. I've caught a couple calicos and a lingcod on a single gulp squid then put it back in the resealable package and used it again several weeks later for more success.
I've been meaning to try out catfood.. As far as the basic bait catching tactics go, I'm set. Just wasn't sure if the PM crews found it more difficult on days when the AM crews found it easy.
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Old 05-13-2007, 08:26 AM   #6
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I've been meaning to try out catfood.. As far as the basic bait catching tactics go, I'm set. Just wasn't sure if the PM crews found it more difficult on days when the AM crews found it easy.
I had difficult making bait yesterday evening...I know what you mean. I finally stumpled on a mac school around 7:45 in around 65 ft, but I'm not sure how you could catch bait consistently.
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Old 05-09-2007, 06:17 PM   #7
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I usually drag a sabiki everywhere I go and cast to any bait I see on the surface. Even though bait (mostly smelt) was all over the surface yesterday, the maks were hard to get going. Bait is nice to have, but don't spend the entire day looking for it.
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Old 05-09-2007, 06:23 PM   #8
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I usually drag a sabiki everywhere I go and cast to any bait I see on the surface. Even though bait (mostly smelt) was all over the surface yesterday, the maks were hard to get going. Bait is nice to have, but don't spend the entire day looking for it.

I know what you mean about spending all day about finding bait. I spend way too much time worrying about bait. I sometimes find myself with a adequate amount of bait but keep pluggin at it in order to LOAD up rather than head out and fish...
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... but don't spend the entire day looking for it(bait).
I hate having to choose between looking for bait, or running for the fishing grounds.

The rapalas have caught some fish this year for others as well as me. I am 2/3 of the way to the slam on my lucky CD-14 . Now I just need to troll in some shallow water with it.
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Old 05-09-2007, 08:10 PM   #10
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Bait is usually a little more tricky in the PM. It gets better the closer to sunset you are. In the PM I like to troll a plug and sabiki out deeper, hoping I run into greenies, before swinging over to the kelp.
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Are you having trouble finding bait or getting the bait to bite the sabiki?

More along the lines of finding it. I know that I can usually get the top smelt to bite and I know that spanish are usually along the kelp edges. I was speaking more along the lines of greenies during daytime. Last summer I used primarily spanish and I my goal this year is to see if greenies will aid in uping my catch totals. I also know that some days bait is everywhere and sometimes it's scarce. I was kinda curious about other's experience with the pier post greylight..
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