Talked to the DFG today - Kayak Fishing Adventures on Big Water’s Edge

Regor · 01-05-2012, 02:14 PM

I talked to the DFG today. They have one rep that they are pointing everyone to for all answers.

Here's some info for those who wish to use it.

The map below is for those who don't want to have to look up coordinates while OTW fishing, or for those who don't have a GPS.

This is only a screen shot of the shores and point, and not the Pier area and north.

The new State marine reserve (red) extends further (~350 yrds) offshore than the old state marine conservation area (blue) but they both originate off the same point above La Jolla cove.

Couple of notes:

~ The buoys are not DFG property. They are either City or County. DFG upper Mgmt is in talks with the City/County about moving them. Will it happen? Who knows.
~ Out of the 28 MLPAs, only 6 currently have buoys and the rest have just used (?) coordinates or landmarks or heresay
~ The coordinate closest to land (the cove) has not moved due to the latest MLPA action. The "Buoy" itself has moved closer (East) to the shores on it's own
~ Enforcement - as long as an effort is made to "try" and observe the new reserve via old buoys and/or landmarks, it's hard to enforce without buoy movement.

mtnbykr2 · 01-05-2012, 02:38 PM

Thanks Greg,
working on a DP or SI trip for the weekend of the 14th as long as weather coops...b

PAL · 01-05-2012, 03:06 PM

The city owns the buoys. As of a year or more ago, a consultant was responsible for their maintenance, which included keeping them anchored at the correct coordinates.

It's anyone's guess what will happen to them now. One thing's for sure - the state isn't going to take responsibility. If the city pulls the funding, the buoys will go.

Hypoxic1 · 01-05-2012, 04:57 PM

The point of land that the begining of the area defined as the zone sure looks like Childrends pool to me, but I could be incorrect. Regor mentioned La Jolla cove, whiich is a different point. Which is correct?
Thanks
Chris

467echo · 01-05-2012, 05:09 PM

I think that Childrens Pool is next to that mark that says "seal rock". Just my guess

dos ballenas · 01-05-2012, 06:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 467echo

I think that Childrens Pool is next to that mark that says "seal rock". Just my guess

correct!

the line goes north from Boomers.... but you probably don't know where Boomers is do you

Regor · 01-05-2012, 06:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hypoxic1

The point of land that the begining of the area defined as the zone sure looks like Childrends pool to me, but I could be incorrect. Regor mentioned La Jolla cove, whiich is a different point. Which is correct?
Thanks
Chris

You are right - Children's pool is the best landmark to use for the furthest coordinate to the south.

The mention of the cove is where the buoy has been moving toward all by itself.

01-05-2012, 02:14 PM	#1
Regor Greg Join Date: May 2010 Location: Chula Vista, ca Posts: 509	Talked to the DFG today I talked to the DFG today. They have one rep that they are pointing everyone to for all answers. Here's some info for those who wish to use it. The map below is for those who don't want to have to look up coordinates while OTW fishing, or for those who don't have a GPS. This is only a screen shot of the shores and point, and not the Pier area and north. The new State marine reserve (red) extends further (~350 yrds) offshore than the old state marine conservation area (blue) but they both originate off the same point above La Jolla cove. Couple of notes: ~ The buoys are not DFG property. They are either City or County. DFG upper Mgmt is in talks with the City/County about moving them. Will it happen? Who knows. ~ Out of the 28 MLPAs, only 6 currently have buoys and the rest have just used (?) coordinates or landmarks or heresay ~ The coordinate closest to land (the cove) has not moved due to the latest MLPA action. The "Buoy" itself has moved closer (East) to the shores on it's own ~ Enforcement - as long as an effort is made to "try" and observe the new reserve via old buoys and/or landmarks, it's hard to enforce without buoy movement.

01-05-2012, 02:38 PM	#2
mtnbykr2 Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: newbury park ca Posts: 2,323	Thanks Greg, working on a DP or SI trip for the weekend of the 14th as long as weather coops...b __________________

01-05-2012, 04:57 PM	#4
Hypoxic1 Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Oceanside Posts: 215	Am I missing something? The point of land that the begining of the area defined as the zone sure looks like Childrends pool to me, but I could be incorrect. Regor mentioned La Jolla cove, whiich is a different point. Which is correct? Thanks Chris

01-05-2012, 05:09 PM	#5
467echo Rookie of the Month Club Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Mira Mesa Posts: 483	I think that Childrens Pool is next to that mark that says "seal rock". Just my guess __________________ they are getting bigger....

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01-05-2012, 03:06 PM	#3
PAL Senior Member Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 754	The city owns the buoys. As of a year or more ago, a consultant was responsible for their maintenance, which included keeping them anchored at the correct coordinates. It's anyone's guess what will happen to them now. One thing's for sure - the state isn't going to take responsibility. If the city pulls the funding, the buoys will go.