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Old 11-17-2011, 08:12 AM   #1
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First Kayak

First post to check in and say hello. I hope to learn a lot from you all.....

So, my first purchase was a Malibu X-Factor. I paid 500 for it because there was a 7 inch gash across the bow where the hanlde is. The repart isn't aesthetically pleasing, but looks soild.

However, upon further review, after I already bought it, (the whatever you call it under the seat is broken). I was wondering the best efficient/effective way of fixing it.

Thanks! And Semper Fi

Remember to keep the terminolgy Barny style for me.....
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Old 11-17-2011, 08:25 AM   #2
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Was that piece of wood there already? This would imply that the seller knew about it when he sold it.

IF thats the case....what a scumbag!


I don't know jack about kayaks (or fishing) but I know who does:


Andy (Iceman on here) runs a kayak/ fishing shop and will tell you EXACTLY what to do. Listen to a PRO not a bunch of knuckleheads like us.
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Old 11-17-2011, 08:33 AM   #3
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This happened alot on the older model x-factors. Before they redesigned the hull.

You see how there is only twp Support under the seat and they run parallel in the middle... The new ones have two and not in the middle they are side by side like a foot apart and perpendicular to the way the boat runs.


When the x-factor was carried by two people/or it may have been a heavy set paddler, it would bend and put alot of pressure on that specific support beam under the seat and would crack if it was heavy enough.


To correct this flaw... Malibu Kayak


I believe (and i may be wrong with this) used a piece of wood with 5200 glue to reinforce it, whenever it cracked. This worked because the scupper hole was only there for support.



My Grey X-factor has the exact same flaw, but is a minute crack. I know for a fact that no water comes inside the hull, on the grey x-factor.

It has a piece of wood (dowel) and then its glued inside with 5200 glue. Super strength bond.



Althought i would probably take it to OEX, so they can see if it needs to be reinforced more, on the top...


This was an old PM: from DJAX65


I had applied an epoxy coating to the seat posts on my old X-Factor. The idea was that the hardened epoxy would take the load on the seat, rather than the thin plastic. I also used 3M 5200 on the inside and outside of all the scuppers to prevent small leaks/cracks from flooding the hull. If I had to reinforce a scupper/seat post again, I would do it the way Malibu repairs broken scuppers. They epoxy a wooden dowel into the scupper, blocking it off completely. Rather than using the dowel, I would use a section of PVC pipe. This would effectively reinforce the scupper, but it would still allow some drainage.

I reinforced the seat posts because the X-Factor had a lot of hull flex and there was a lot of weight supported by those two posts/scuppers. The scuppers/seat posts are the most heavily stressed parts of the hull and they are also the area that most frequently has molding defects. Based on that, I decided that it would be prudent to reinforce the seat posts. My decision was prompted by a recent experience with a poorly molded OK Prowler, which left me swimming at San Clemente Island and missing several rods/reels.





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Old 11-17-2011, 09:04 AM   #4
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Was it this kayak you bought? I was going to looking at it until he told me there was a 7" crack on the top.


http://sandiego.craigslist.org/nsd/boa/2700133576.html
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Old 11-17-2011, 10:17 AM   #5
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Was it this kayak you bought? I was going to looking at it until he told me there was a 7" crack on the top.


http://sandiego.craigslist.org/nsd/boa/2700133576.html

That's it.....
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Old 11-17-2011, 09:44 AM   #6
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Get a Hobie they would warranty that sort of thing even if it was out of warranty! But thirds on the Andy aka Iceman. Im sure he will post something on this.

He does really solid work.
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Old 11-17-2011, 09:10 AM   #7
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Was that piece of wood there already? This would imply that the seller knew about it when he sold it.

IF thats the case....what a scumbag!


I don't know jack about kayaks (or fishing) but I know who does:


Andy (Iceman on here) runs a kayak/ fishing shop and will tell you EXACTLY what to do. Listen to a PRO not a bunch of knuckleheads like us.

I agree with this...
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Old 11-17-2011, 10:21 AM   #8
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Was that piece of wood there already? This would imply that the seller knew about it when he sold it.

IF thats the case....what a scumbag!


I don't know jack about kayaks (or fishing) but I know who does:


Andy (Iceman on here) runs a kayak/ fishing shop and will tell you EXACTLY what to do. Listen to a PRO not a bunch of knuckleheads like us.

I sure hope he can help me out!!! The seller just told me about the crack on the bow of the kayak. He did not mention what was under the seat. And because I didn't know any better I didn't look there. He seemed like a reasonble guy too....Now I don't know how much it's going to cost me to fix. Furthure more, I'm grounded until it's resolved.

Iceman.....Can you give a guy some advice....? Thanks.
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Old 11-17-2011, 10:57 AM   #9
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Just give him a call, man. He won't steer you wrong.
Andy - OEX - Sunset Beach CA
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Old 11-17-2011, 11:08 AM   #10
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I sure hope this thing works out for you, seems like a bit of repair but
if anyone can do it OEX can....good luck
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Old 11-17-2011, 05:02 PM   #11
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just out of curiosity...have you tried contacting this guy to confront him about the damage to the interior of the kayak?? id be super pissed. either way Andy is definitely your man if anything can be done about it.
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