"skiff trash" it may make you, but you can safely take it 8-10 miles out in good conditions. anyone got shoulders that Manly? the "real boat" guys still think you're crazy. after beating the crap out of one in Mexico for 2 years, i can attest that all the claims they make on the website are true, maybe even understated. it just takes a while to quit freakin out as you watch hull flex and to accept that you can go to sea in something held together with staples & not die.......