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so cal shaggy · 04-29-2009, 12:47 PM

Guys, again I cannot thank you for showing up this was a big showing for all consumptive groups. All of you have caught on quite quickly that this process is moving at warp speed with no show of it slowing down for the data to catch up. This whole process is flawed and what is the most frustrating part is that the 1,000 lb. gorilla in the room (pollution) is not being addressed for example if the propossed full closures take affect nothing is going to get better. If they take the fishermen off the water and the spearfishermen out of the water the kelp is not going to grow again and the reason being is that the water quality is not optimum for the kelp to grow back. Another example of unmanaged closures which have not worked are the abalone in Laguna, Newport and Dana point, abalone in the orange county area have been a zero take species since 1981 but I can personally say that there are still hardly any abalone in these areas. The reason for this is that abalone are sensitive to water quality at catalina however within the last few years there are abalone everywhere why, because the water quality out at the islands is better than along the coast. Therefore no matter how much you tell us we cannot harvest or touch them unless the water is cleaned up they will not come back same for the kelp, in Crystal Cove there has been an ongoing kelp restoration project (7 years now) to try and bring back the dense kelp beds in that area and through seeding of the reefs and stopping urban runoff in the area (all runoff in that area is channeled into catch basins which are sent to the treatment plant for the area rather than just flowing into the ocean)has been stopped or drastically reduced to a minnimum and as a result the water in the stretch of Crystal Cove is cleaner than the water in Laguna and the kelp in that area has made a drastic comeback it is the thickest I have seen it in nearly 20 years. These are examples of good management of an area but full coastal closures with no followup management program guidlines established before creating the closure is just going to do more damage than good.

Thanks,
Jeff

04-29-2009, 12:47 PM	#76
so cal shaggy Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Anaheim Posts: 85	MLPA process Guys, again I cannot thank you for showing up this was a big showing for all consumptive groups. All of you have caught on quite quickly that this process is moving at warp speed with no show of it slowing down for the data to catch up. This whole process is flawed and what is the most frustrating part is that the 1,000 lb. gorilla in the room (pollution) is not being addressed for example if the propossed full closures take affect nothing is going to get better. If they take the fishermen off the water and the spearfishermen out of the water the kelp is not going to grow again and the reason being is that the water quality is not optimum for the kelp to grow back. Another example of unmanaged closures which have not worked are the abalone in Laguna, Newport and Dana point, abalone in the orange county area have been a zero take species since 1981 but I can personally say that there are still hardly any abalone in these areas. The reason for this is that abalone are sensitive to water quality at catalina however within the last few years there are abalone everywhere why, because the water quality out at the islands is better than along the coast. Therefore no matter how much you tell us we cannot harvest or touch them unless the water is cleaned up they will not come back same for the kelp, in Crystal Cove there has been an ongoing kelp restoration project (7 years now) to try and bring back the dense kelp beds in that area and through seeding of the reefs and stopping urban runoff in the area (all runoff in that area is channeled into catch basins which are sent to the treatment plant for the area rather than just flowing into the ocean)has been stopped or drastically reduced to a minnimum and as a result the water in the stretch of Crystal Cove is cleaner than the water in Laguna and the kelp in that area has made a drastic comeback it is the thickest I have seen it in nearly 20 years. These are examples of good management of an area but full coastal closures with no followup management program guidlines established before creating the closure is just going to do more damage than good. Thanks, Jeff Last edited by so cal shaggy; 04-29-2009 at 02:51 PM.