Thanks Andy I enjoyed trying out both kayaks.The 140 paddles very nice and is a good boat to fish out ofand I really enjoyed the Pungo. This was my first time in a SINK kayak and really enjoyed it. The kayak paddles very easily, glides and the balance is very good. I also found the tray very handy the butter comtainer fit perfect. As Andy mentioned the new seats in the Wilderness kayaks are very comfortable.