A desperate MLPA Plea!!
 

As you have seen Steve's thread. If you love fishing SOCAL, read EVERY WORD! You all should be outraged!

This is serious business at this point, this next BRTF meeting is going to be the breaking point, of how business is conducted.

Some of you were in the trenches at the Oxnard meeting where ~30 RSG members turned in a letter stating that the process needs to be slowed down for many reasons, among them needing time to review the science to be able to make an informed decision. This was because the RSG members were literally given the information the day before the meeting. The BRFT paid lip service to this letter, and the RSG members request, essentially, telling them to make due, and they are moving forward.

Well, the RSG members did make due, and worked hard in good faith, to move forward and find consensus. As you read, 6 of the 7 maps were to move forward, and External C (CLOSE IT ALL) got voted out.

A dozen non-consumptive RSG members complained to the BRFT, and so Ken Wiseman moved all 7 maps forward, including External C.

This undermines the process, and the good faith effort made by the RSG members. Had the most minimal MPA maps been voted out, do you think the BRFT would have pushed it forward? No.

EVERYONE needs to attend this next meeting, and shut it down. This is supposed to be a fair proces, External C was fairly voted out from the list of maps. This process should not continue on, if the BRFT is not going respect the MAJORITY of the RSG Membership decisions, and treat one group more favorably than the other.

June 4th, 2009
9:40AM Public Comment
Sheraton Gateway Los Angeles Hotel *
6101 West Century Boulevard
Los Angeles, CA 90045

Who is going to this next meeting?

1. chris

Maybe. Leaning towards yes. Talking to the boss soon.

I'm in.

We need to be there. The spearos will organize to be there. Let's let them know.

I propose that we all carry big poster boards and holding them up "Stop selling out" "What happened to fair and open?" or "Don't like the vote? Change the rules when you lose"

so the silent testimony will be evident even when they aren't giving us our 1 minute.

Exactly Joe, signs are a great idea, I thought about that for the last few meetings, but didnt know how appropriate. Now I think it is very much so!!

That sums it up pretty well.

Kayakers:

I know it seems like many meetings, and you are getting less than 1 week notice, and they are at crappy times... BUT...............

A lot people rallied for Santa Ana MLPA meeting, that had profound impact on getting EXt. C off the list of proposals. But your effort has been underminded. This war is not over, yes, had Ken Wiseman, and Don Benninghoven not disregarded the RSG vote, we would not have to necessarily attend this meeting in force, maybe just to monitor it. But now we do need to call in sick, or just ask for the day off.

Listen I CANNOT do that, I can't, I can't call in another day, or ask for a vacation day this short of notice, because I have nearly zero time left, and many work projects due. But I am, and will be there, because this meeting, and the rest are important. So, no excuses.

We are 2/3 done, and they have changed the rules, because they did not like the results.

If we do not all band together for every opportunity, then we will get what we deserve.

It goes without saying that I will be there. And my speaking point will include kayakfishing advocacy. We are in this together and we need to step up on this one guys.

Our RSGs spent 3 (three) long days securing the compromise, only to be swept away by underhanded, blatantly biased dealings. Their hands are tied. We need to step up and speak out.

Be there. Please.

P.S. Chris Fiero is too nice to say it but with multiple challenges, the least of which is new house move, family serious illness, he's STILL making NO excuses. He'll be there. Will you be there with him?

can we get a roll call for this meeting....seems like it helps rally the masses

As someone who sat on the RSG up here and you NEED to be involved, otherwise you will get hosed.

Who is going to this next meeting?

1. chris

I WILL BE THERE!!!!

1. Chris
2. Moyer
3. Zen
4. Tyler (checking with boss)
5. Corey (See above)
6. Fallon (same as 4 & 5)
7. Steve Green
8. fryguy?
9. Kurt
10. Charles
11. ?

I am in, screw it. Our chances are running out. Wiseman just tipped his hand. Time to hammer them for it.

I'll be there.

Probably

I'll be there , Will you? Lets go fellas!

Your going Stevo....We will get a side game of LCR going and everytime one of the Enviros speak up we will yell "TRIPLE NIPPLE, BITCHES". You can do it!

I'm in too.

.I'll be there and my 14yr. old son, too. Kayakers, please UNITE.

The process is at a crisis point - I wouldn't ask you to take time off work and make the trek to LA if your future fishing access wasn't at stake. This is deadly serious. Please do all you can to get up there and speak your mind. If you let this pass, it may be too late, the damage will have been done.

:iagree:

Ya might need a navigator....:sifone:

I'm posting this here because I somehow got locked out of my own MLPA thread on the BT site :luxhello::luxhello::luxhello::doh:

Just a thought that came to mind....should someone bring a camcorder this time? being they might like to not tape our public comments AGAIN. I'd bring mine, but I don't own one.

Good point Grego...I don't have one, but I'm hoping that there are at least 10 from the people that attend...after all, it is a public forum, and should be recorded...

Keep your commitments coming!! This list is nice, but not long enough! Our friends at Baytubers have people joining BWE too! :cool:

1. Chris
2. Moyer
3. Zen
4. Tyler
5. Corey (checking with boss)
6. Fallon
7. Steve Green
8. fryguy?
9. Kurt
10. Charles
11. Grego
12. Steveooo (Probably)
13. Buttchaser
14. Trevor
15. Joy
16. Joy's son
17. T-man
18. Kiyo

Jim is going. I will bring my video recorder.

Thanks Matt!

1. Chris
2. Moyer
3. Zen
4. Tyler
5. Corey (checking with boss)
6. Fallon
7. Steve Green
8. fryguy?
9. Kurt
10. Charles
11. Grego
12. Steveooo (Probably)
13. Buttchaser
14. Trevor
15. Joy
16. Joy's son
17. T-man
18. Kiyo
19. Jim Sammons

Every meeting from here on out is important. The game keeps changing on us. We cannot let it happen without at least being heard. It is almost over. Join up now before it's too late.

From Zenspearo posted on Spearboard:

Seems like a legit line of questioning to me. I have a couple other concerns to add, but not the time right now. Also having a plan B sounds smart if they cave and make your first speech moot is good.

Everyone, this is important, I know it will be hard.

Also, Don Benninghoven MLPA Chair was a part of this decision as well.

Zen brings up a great point, after appropriately discussing the bias, offer a more reasonable plan to which you support.

IT is EXTREMELY important to be professional, courteous, and polite, we want to win with charm!! Print your speech out and read it to your friends out loud and practice it!! We need to appear (because we are) intelligent and concerned about the enviroment while still being consumptive users a.k.a. fisherman.

PLEASE EVERYONE WHO CAN PLAN ON ATTENDING!!

I missed the last meeting that I had planned on attending due to another meeting that I could not get out of, but will not miss this one.
I am heading up with Moyer.
I made a lot of the meetings during the initial stages of the MLPA process, but have gotten rather lax about it and focused on other commitments. It is time to step back up to the plate for all of us.
See you all there.

I'm IN!

Oh crap.

The kayakfishermen are up to 19! :luxhello::luxhello::luxhello:

I have a friendly wager for you Chris. I bet there will be more spearos. If I'm wrong, I'll buy you a beer next time. If I'm right, I drink Sapporo Reserve.

Either way, we win by having boatloads (or kayakloads) of consumptives at the meeting

Is it ON??? Ready to pay for my beer? :D:D

http://sapporobeer.com/beer/reserve/

Haha, you are on... I prefer Sierra Nevada Pale Ale!

http://www.sierranevada.com/

Remember, this is the guys/gals going from just this kayak fishing message board! :) C'mon Kayakers, save your fishery, and win me a beer! :p

1. Chris
2. Moyer
3. Zen
4. Tyler
5. Corey
6. Fallon
7. Steve Green
8. fryguy?
9. Kurt
10. Charles
11. Grego
12. Steveooo (Probably)
13. Buttchaser
14. Trevor
15. Joy
16. Joy's son
17. T-man
18. Kiyo
19. Jim Sammons
20. Dan

Bring it on big guy. :cheers1: From all your kayakfishing websites.:p

Seal Team spearos will be there in force. :sifone::

If they table the proposals there are other issues such as the Outdated SAT information and the changing of procedure at the last minute leaving the RSG in confusion that could be addressed.

Somebody just promise to call me & tell me what color shirt to wear this time! :o:D

Black shirts all! Spearos, and BDers are also wearing black!

I requested the day off already...If I can get it I will be there in a black shirt.